[Triple_D_Bet]

loan trickery is the loan you gave tat as you state above.
as in you gave him a loan of 100,000


the clever workaround would have been this u should have wagered him in public that the sun will come up tomorrow at 100000 -1 maybe that could hold up as in taddy earned a side bet? not sure if side bets were banned or not to earn the points.



but the straight loan is clear. for god sakes he sent it back! Dah!!

The return of the points had nothing to do with bobo's decision to stiff try...tat sent the points back here:

BBE735

3/31/2016 5:00 PM

tatddy

downsouth

Player Transfer

-100,000 [COLOR=#000000 !important]1,068.00[/COLOR]

On March 31st. Bobbo refused to pay the bet well before that on 2/27 at 1500:

Since no loans are acceptable, it's obvious no gifts are acceptable. Waves doesn't spell out the obvious. Your moronic attempt to circumvent the bet, will earn you nothing.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post25360907

We'll see how much of a "gift" your 100k was, when Tat promptly returns it to you. So you can payback your 13k loan from dngf.

See how here he was calling it a gift, and declaring it was implied that gifts weren't OK? This was not even 2 hours after DS accepted and won the wager, and we have bobbo acknowledging that it was a gift

After he got beat up on that, he fell back to considering it a loan instead (without any evidence). Regardless, as you can see, the return of the points wasn't bobbo's reason for considering it a loan at the time and refusing to pay; he simply took what DS clearly stated as a gift and declared it a loan with not a shred of evidence to support it.

As I said above, even if it was a loan, the terms didn't prohibit loans; they only prohibited soliciting loans, which tat hasn't done. Just like making a wager or a gift, the loan doesn't break bobbos terms. There's simply no way for bobbo to believe the bet wasn't won by his own words, and his shifting excuses expose the fact he just plain wants to stiff

[trytrytry]

He sent it back weeks later when he realized Bobby was stiffing me. Had Bobby have paid his lost bet those points would have never been sent back. Tat texted me he was sending back and I actually told him no need.

Had Bobby had paid losing bet and then Tat sent back you could make the case but since Bobby stiffed he would not accept my gift.

yes we get it he sent back the loan "under some circumstances blah blah blah" but he clearly paid back the loan of the points you shipped him originally.

[JBiddyJ23]

I gave 675 points to bobbywaves to place some bets for me on the Poker Players Championship because he knew more about the potential winners than I did! I tried to stay out of this as long as possible but finally had to speak up! Will you please give me my 675 points back and make this right?

[trytrytry]

I gave 675 points to bobbywaves to place some bets for me on the Poker Players Championship because he knew more about the potential winners than I did! I tried to stay out of this as long as possible but finally had to speak up! Will you please give me my 675 points back and make this right?

I gave the poor people down the street a pizza they did not ask for, and now dont know what to do as they returned it. I think bobby owes me 675,

[Triple_D_Bet]

I gave 675 points to bobbywaves to place some bets for me on the Poker Players Championship because he knew more about the potential winners than I did! I tried to stay out of this as long as possible but finally had to speak up! Will you please give me my 675 points back and make this right?

You have never transferred a point to bobbo in your existence here...next time you wanna make something up, try for something a little less easy to verify.

If you consider doing something like that in the future, you'd be advised to not use a stiff as a runner.

[Triple_D_Bet]

yes we get it he sent back the loan "under some circumstances blah blah blah" but he clearly paid back the loan of the points you shipped him originally.

Try, do you follow what I'm saying about the terms prohibiting soliciting loans but not loans themselves? Or that bobbo acknowledged the 100k was a gift immediately after DS posted it?

[bobbywaves]

loan trickery is the loan you gave tat as you state above.
as in you gave him a loan of 100,000

Correct.

the clever workaround would have been this u should have wagered him in public that the sun will come up tomorrow at 100000 -1 maybe that could hold up as in taddy earned a side bet? not sure if side bets were banned or not to earn the points.

The clever workaround in my humble opinion was to simply post up our bets, I would have agreed to that. That way DS would take the decision out of my hands, & put the decision in a 3rd party's hands like Mr. Yisman. Instead of having a 0.00% chance to win a Waves decision by breaking my no loan rule, at least DS would have a 0.04% chance to win a Yisman verdict.

DS obviously couldn't afford 72k post up, after loaning 100k to Tat. But DS ignorantly failed to solicit a 72k loan, to post up our bet with Yisman.

but the straight loan is clear. for god sakes he sent it back! Dah!!

[trytrytry]

Try, do you follow what I'm saying about the terms prohibiting soliciting loans but not loans themselves? Or that bobbo acknowledged the 100k was a gift immediately after DS posted it?

yes I do and my feeling is that that loan trickery which was done, is not relevant to the winner of this side betpoint wager. Loans were off the table to decide the side wager in my opinion that is like crystal clear.

And also has no relevance to the 675 you took from bobby the other day. which i'm sure you will take care of at some point.


we really need people in this subforum to know if a thread to risk points is offered by SBR PROS the wager points once transferred will be honored or returned and not taken. this is really critical.

[Russian Rocket]

I gave 675 points to bobbywaves to place some bets for me on the Poker Players Championship because he knew more about the potential winners than I did! I tried to stay out of this as long as possible but finally had to speak up! Will you please give me my 675 points back and make this right?

You've opened up your yap on the forum before the start of the tourney and put a bounty on Me.

Chucky knocked me out of the tourney - 4 days later you still haven't transferred him a single point of that bounty.
You do however have time to come up with this fairy tail story how you gave Booby 675 pts.

Stay in your lane Biddy...and

[bobbywaves]

yes we get it he sent back the loan "under some circumstances blah blah blah" but he clearly paid back the loan of the points you shipped him originally.

Yes, clearly paid back the loan. Indisputable.

By Tat sending the 100k "gifted" pts back, obviously made the gift a loan.

Who gifts 100K?

Who returns a 100k gift?

This would have been unprecedented behavior here at SBR, except for the fact the 100k was an obvious loan to circumvent bet.

Not only does DS owe me the 675 pts Tripe stole & then shipped to him, DS should also pay me a fee for his douchebag behavior by attempting to circumvent our bet.

[Triple_D_Bet]

yes I do and my feeling is that that loan trickery which was done, is not relevant to the winner of this side betpoint wager. Loans were off the table to decide the side wager in my opinion that is like crystal clear.

And also has no relevance to the 675 you took from bobby the other day. which i'm sure you will take care of at some point.


we really need people in this subforum to know if a thread to risk points is offered by SBR PROS the wager points once transferred will be honored or returned and not taken. this is really critical.

If by trickery you mean DS won the bet in a was bobbo didn't mean or forsee, then we agree. You yourself suggested a 100,000 to 1 wager, which was surely not what bobbo intended...that would be just as much trickery as a gift by the definition.

It can't be called a loan by any stretch of the English language; DS stated it was a gift, bobbo stated it was a gift. When both parties admit it's a gift, and there's no repayment thread or any evidence of it being a loan, we're forced to agree with both bobbo and DS that it was a gift.

Even if it was a loan; bobbo's terms in plain english prohibit only the soliciting of loans, not the loans themselves. Did he intend that to mean 'no loans, no gifts'? Probably....but he used a $5 word like 'solicit' instead of 'take' or 'accept' and he left an even bigger loophole than he intended due to his lack of understanding, and he never specified no gifts.

Logically, if a guy specifies a wager under certain terms and those terms are met by the winner, the bet is won and should be paid; the points forum should definitely be certain that this will happen with a certainty, and that those who don't comply are labeled stiffs who won't be dealt with.

I understand what you're saying, and post ups sent to me are either honored or returned UNLESS the sender is a stiff. These are the same terms I've operated under for years, and so long as the better isn't a verified stiff, their points are honored. Others are free to treat stiffs however they please, but with the limited ability to enforce loans and wagers around here, I'm proud to have terms that prohibit them from doing business until they pay what they owe.

[JBiddyJ23]

Chucky has been paid (8/22/2016 @ 2:39 PM Central)! Sunday + Monday = less than 48 hours! Where did you go to school Russian Rocket? The University of Alabama? STFU!

I lost 675 points in the poker room on purpose to keep my bets on the down low! I had to tell everyone because you are screwing a guy I don't know! So you got 675 points <<<<< 72,000 points - Yeah for you!

[downsouth]

Yes, clearly paid back the loan. Indisputable.

By Tat sending the 100k "gifted" pts back, obviously made the gift a loan.

Who gifts 100K?

Who returns a 100k gift?

This would have been unprecedented behavior here at SBR, except for the fact the 100k was an obvious loan to circumvent bet.

Not only does DS owe me the 675 pts Tripe stole & then shipped to him, DS should also pay me a fee for his douchebag behavior by attempting to circumvent our bet.

You made it clear you were stiffing long before any points were sent back.

I think Ill donate the points to charity tomorrow.

As far as fee, I'll up the donation to 1000 or whatever is the round number needed for 2 donations.

Please dont threaten to kick my ass, I've outgrown fighting years ago.

[bobbywaves]

I gave the poor people down the street a pizza they did not ask for, and now dont know what to do as they returned it. I think bobby owes me 675,

Nice gesture feeding the poor people.

I would eat the returned pizza, if it appeared untampered with. It's an absolute sin to waste food, so many starving people in this world.

Good analogy.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Yes, clearly paid back the loan. Indisputable.

By Tat sending the 100k "gifted" pts back, obviously made the gift a loan.

Who gifts 100K?

Who returns a 100k gift?

This would have been unprecedented behavior here at SBR, except for the fact the 100k was an obvious loan to circumvent bet.

Not only does DS owe me the 675 pts Tripe stole & then shipped to him, DS should also pay me a fee for his douchebag behavior by attempting to circumvent our bet.

If we pretend for a second that it's a loan (ignoring the fact you called it a gift immediately afterwards), that doesn't help you. Your terms, in plain english, one more time:

...Tat already lost a 100k challenge. He couldn't sniff 10k, let alone 100k. I'll bet your 72k I reach 100k before him, neither of us can solicit any loans to get there. ...

so·lic·it
səˈlisit/
verb
[COLOR=#878787 !important][/COLOR]

• ask for or try to obtain (something) from someone.
  
  
  

You've produced no evidence that tat solicited a loan from anyone. As that was the ONLY restriction in this wager, you've failed to show that tat broke any restrictions, and he clearly reached 100k before you did. That makes you the loser of the bet, and you owe DS 72k.

It doesn't matter what you thought was implied...as a matter of fact, let's check in and see what you have to say about some of these issues, shall we?

On the matter of loans and gifts being different:

1,214 shipped directly to Tripe, as a gift to CS. His loan is paid in full, 1230/1230. Unless Tripe can show where it specifically states gifts are not allowed, I won't be expecting a refund.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post22502457

You believed only loans were prohibited for CS, so you gave him a gift, claiming it was allowed because it didn't specifically say gifts were allowed. Of course, gifts were explicitly prohibited, you simply failed to read it...and I sent you the points back as a result. So gifts aren't the same as loans when it comes to trying to oppose me in something, but they're the same thing when it comes to you losing a bet?

On the matter of exploiting loopholes, you had this to say:

If there's ever a loophole, CS4 will find it & exploit it.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post22502527

Before you were educated that no gifts were allowed, you were celebrating the loophole you thought you helped CS scamper through. We don't see anything from you about how "the obvious doesn't need to be spelled out", just you confirming that exploiting a loophole is OK in your mind. So it appears that you're OK with loopholes when you thought I didn't close them, but when it comes to you leaving one open, nobody is allowed to use a loophole?

Bobbo, it's plain as day: your own words have buried you several times over here.

[bobbywaves]

I gave 675 points to bobbywaves to place some bets for me on the Poker Players Championship because he knew more about the potential winners than I did! I tried to stay out of this as long as possible but finally had to speak up! Will you please give me my 675 points back and make this right?

Tripe & Rocket, Biddy was obviously trying to make a funny since Tryx3 & myself had the same bets.

Jedi bet almost came in to break even Tryx3, we had 3 horses at the final table with one horse finishing 2nd.

But since Tripe is unethical by stealing my post up, only you were getting paid if Jedi won.

[Russian Rocket]

Chucky has been paid (8/22/2016 @ 2:39 PM Central)! Sunday + Monday = less than 48 hours! Where did you go to school Russian Rocket? The University of Alabama? STFU!

I lost 675 points in the poker room on purpose to keep my bets on the down low! I had to tell everyone because you are screwing a guy I don't know! So you got 675 points <<<<< 72,000 points - Yeah for you!

11 fkng pts? That was your bounty??? You couldn't even master to give him a full daily 12 point allowance from SBR. What a dumbfukk.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Tripe, Biddy was obviously trying to make a funny since Tryx3 & myself had the same bets.

Jedi bet almost came in to break even Tryx3, we had 3 horses at the final table with one horse finishing 2nd.

But since Tripe is unethical by stealing my post up, only you were getting paid if Jedi won.

Until you can answer the plain-english questions and explain away why even you disagree with what you claim, there's not much else to say.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post26166832

[bobbywaves]

yes I do and my feeling is that that loan trickery which was done, is not relevant to the winner of this side betpoint wager. Loans were off the table to decide the side wager in my opinion that is like crystal clear.

And also has no relevance to the 675 you took from bobby the other day. which i'm sure you will take care of at some point.

Doubt Tripe will ever do the right thing & take care of it, especially because he already gave my 675 pt post up to DS.

we really need people in this subforum to know if a thread to risk points is offered by SBR PROS the wager points once transferred will be honored or returned and not taken. this is really critical.

Spot on. When posters see Tripe stealing my post up, that could effect their opinion about posting up bets with yourself & Yisman. It shouldn't, as neither you or Yisman have never pulled the crap of stealing post up like Tripe. But I can certainly understand why someone may be hesitant to post up with any SBR Pro anyway, after Tripe's blatant theft.

[bobbywaves]

You made it clear you were stiffing long before any points were sent back.

I think Ill donate the points to charity tomorrow.

As far as fee, I'll up the donation to 1000 or whatever is the round number needed for 2 donations.

Please dont threaten to kick my ass, I've outgrown fighting years ago.

Funny how you're deciding what to do with my pts, what arrogance.

You're just as guilty as Tripe for creating the 72k stiff thread. when you know damn well you circumvented our bet.

Then you have the audacity to slander my SBR name & rep, over a bet you clearly cheated?
Both you & Tripe deserve to be banned over this.

[SharpAngles]

Trytrytry on my short list of SBR MVP's, but friend, you're way off on this one. I submit one of my favorite prop bet legends to help make my point...

Amarillo Slim challenged anyone at a country club that he could drive a golf ball for a distance of over a mile. Slim was willing to back up his boast with a large wad of money. Everyone laughed at this and figured that he was trying to trick them in the way that he worded the offer. One guy said, "What are you going to do Slim, take the golf ball in your car and drive it for over a mile".
Slim laughed at this suggestion and said he would put the regulation golf ball on a regulation tee and use a P.G.A. approved golf club to drive the ball over one mile. A crowd gathered and everyone was trying to figure out what Slim was up to. No one could. Slim said I'll put my money where my mouth is, how about you? Finally after a long silence the country club members ponied up thousands of dollars to bet against Slim and his seemingly absurd claim.
Slim said, "Let's do it" and waved to everyone to follow him. He got into his pickup and a procession of cars followed Slim for a few miles off the beaten track. Slim finally pulls into a deserted lot with all of the other cars in tow. As everyone gets out of their cars they begin to see the method of Slims' madness. There before him was a huge frozen lake as far as the eye could see. Slim calmly sets the ball on the tee and with one mighty swing the ball travels well into the next county skipping on the ice.
There was total silence as Slim collected his wager. Amarillo Slim Preston is a living legend and the winner of the World Series of Poker in 1972. His wit and wisdom is larger than life. Fictitious characters like Paul Bunyon look small in comparison

Do you think Slims opponents threw a tantrum and refused to pay when they realized they'd been tricked? Of course not because a gentleman pays his bets or risks losing action down the road. The spirit of prop betting is getting the best of your opponent. Always has been always will be. If booby had specified no gifts the prop falls apart and booby gets the best of DS. Turns out DS got it accepted without that specific rule so he got the best of Bobbi.

[SharpAngles]

Another Slim story just because...

Prop betting and poker go hand in hand like Canadians and hockey, and poker players are renowned for their gamble. Here are, arguably, the top five prop bets of all time.1) Amarillo Slim vs. Taiwanese table tennis champ with Coke bottles for paddles
Slim first came up with this prop bet when he defeated Bobby Riggs, a noted tennis pro. In that match he said he would play the pro with paddles of his choosing.
Much to Riggs' surprise, when Slim showed up on game day he produced two cast iron skillets. Riggs went down, and word got round that Slim had worked out a Ping-Pong hustle.
A man named Lefty figured if he brought in a ringer and got him training with a skillet Slim wouldn't have a chance. So this Lefty asks, "Slim, if I bring you a player will you play him?" Slim says, "Sure, as long as I get to choose the paddles."
So poor Lefty figures that Slim will choose the skillets again. and has this Taiwanese Ping-Pong stud training all day long with a giant frying pan.
Come game day, Slim saunters over to the vending machine and buys two glass Coke bottles (yes; this was back in the day when there were still glass Coke bottles, kiddies), pours the Coke out and hands the empty bottle to the Taiwanese pro.
Little did Lefty know Slim had suspected everyone was wise to his skillets and thus had been practicing with empty Coke bottles the entire time!

[trytrytry]

Trytrytry on my short list of SBR MVP's, but friend, you're way off on this one. I submit one of my favorite prop bet legends to help make my point...

Amarillo Slim challenged anyone at a country club that he could drive a golf ball for a distance of over a mile. Slim was willing to back up his boast with a large wad of money. Everyone laughed at this and figured that he was trying to trick them in the way that he worded the offer. One guy said, "What are you going to do Slim, take the golf ball in your car and drive it for over a mile".
Slim laughed at this suggestion and said he would put the regulation golf ball on a regulation tee and use a P.G.A. approved golf club to drive the ball over one mile. A crowd gathered and everyone was trying to figure out what Slim was up to. No one could. Slim said I'll put my money where my mouth is, how about you? Finally after a long silence the country club members ponied up thousands of dollars to bet against Slim and his seemingly absurd claim.
Slim said, "Let's do it" and waved to everyone to follow him. He got into his pickup and a procession of cars followed Slim for a few miles off the beaten track. Slim finally pulls into a deserted lot with all of the other cars in tow. As everyone gets out of their cars they begin to see the method of Slims' madness. There before him was a huge frozen lake as far as the eye could see. Slim calmly sets the ball on the tee and with one mighty swing the ball travels well into the next county skipping on the ice.
There was total silence as Slim collected his wager. Amarillo Slim Preston is a living legend and the winner of the World Series of Poker in 1972. His wit and wisdom is larger than life. Fictitious characters like Paul Bunyon look small in comparison

Do you think Slims opponents threw a tantrum and refused to pay when they realized they'd been tricked? Of course not because a gentleman pays his bets or risks losing action down the road. The spirit of prop betting is getting the best of your opponent. Always has been always will be. If booby had specified no gifts the prop falls apart and booby gets the best of DS. Turns out DS got it accepted without that specific rule so he got the best of Bobbi.

you are on my great list as well

lets say this happened.

SBR graded a game wrong for 1 second, a human error but it happened. SBR corrected it and took the points back 1 second later (ie an unsolicited gift) for that second bobby was over 100,000.

who wins the side bet? yea um... didnt think so. if downsouth did not pay that can you see triple sending bobby points from his poker contest. LOL. and yet triple for some reason will steal from a SBR PRO points and send them to downsouth in a situation there was a loan and pay back loan transfer. if they did it for 1 second was that long enough? incredible.

[Fire in da hole]

loan trickery is the loan you gave tat as you state above.
as in you gave him a loan of 100,000


the clever workaround would have been this u should have wagered him in public that the sun will come up tomorrow at 100000 -1 maybe that could hold up as in taddy earned a side bet? not sure if side bets were banned or not to earn the points.



but the straight loan is clear. for god sakes he sent it back! Dah!!

Try,

I believe you are coming at this from a different angle than DS. DS can correct me if I'm wrong, although the evidence is circumstantial at best and proving intent is now impossible. DS bet Bobby that TAT would reach 100k pts before bobby. This is a fact everyone agrees upon.

This is where a lot of people get lost because they say "who would just give someone 100k pts?" However, people are in turn failing to account for two key intangibles: 1) DS has a true disdain for Bobby and 2) if he truly gifts Tat the 100k pts, then Bobby would then owe DS the 72k pts.

So, DS says the pros (having bobby lose 72k pts) outweighs the costs (i.e. net loss of 28k pts). This is why I believe the points were not returned immediately. Bobby didn't take into account that DS would be willing to lose money/points intentionally in order to screw Bobby, which I believe he was willing to do and did.

Just my 2 cents coming from a different angle.

[Triple_D_Bet]

you are on my great list as well

lets say this happened.

SBR graded a game wrong for 1 second, a human error but it happened. SBR corrected it and took the points back 1 second later (ie an unsolicited gift) for that second bobby was over 100,000.

who wins the side bet? yea um... didnt think so. if downsouth did not pay that can you see triple sending bobby points from his poker contest. LOL. and yet triple for some reason will steal from a SBR PRO points and send them to downsouth in a situation there was a loan and pay back loan transfer. if they did it for 1 second was that long enough? incredible.

If bobbo's balance shows as over 100k before tat's does, regardless of how it happened (so long as loans weren't solicited), then he wins. It would be an 'act of god' kind of thing, but the terms don't make an exception for it, and he'd be the winner. It doesn't matter who's on the winning or losing end. A bet between friends might very well decide to mutually discount the fluke, but if they don't, the bet results speak for themselves.

I've defended bobbo numerous times from false accusations despite not liking him, when people said things about him that were plainly untrue. That's included allegations of stiffing, back when he'd always paid his debts and never appeared to be a person who would stiff, whatever his other faults. You're not gonna see me treating a situation differently based on who wins and who loses.

Since the issue seems to hinge on gift vs loan to you, why don't I just call the points bobbo sent me a gift? Sure, there's plain english to show that they aren't, but if we can ignore that for bobbo's bet we might as well do it for his attempt to bet with me. Do that, and there's no issue, it was just a 'gift'

[bobbywaves]

How did they follow the golf ball travels for 1 mile, where does the story say someone had binoculars or a telescope to follow the ball? So if this huge lake was frozen solid, there was this big crowd of people following Slim in 10 below weather? Where did this take place, Alaska? If the weather wasn't that cold, then there could have been man made holes in the lake used for ice fishing. Or possibly other natural holes in the ice, with the golf ball landing in the drink prior to reaching the 1 mile destination.

I call BS.

So Slim was an angle shooting douchebag, what's your point?

[Triple_D_Bet]

Try,

I believe you are coming at this from a different angle than DS. DS can correct me if I'm wrong, although the evidence is circumstantial at best and proving intent is now impossible. DS bet Bobby that TAT would reach 100k pts before bobby. This is a fact everyone agrees upon.

This is where a lot of people get lost because they say "who would just give someone 100k pts?" However, people are in turn failing to account for two key intangibles: 1) DS has a true disdain for Bobby and 2) if he truly gifts Tat the 100k pts, then Bobby would then owe DS the 72k pts.

So, DS says the pros (having bobby lose 72k pts) outweighs the costs (i.e. net loss of 28k pts). This is why I believe the points were not returned immediately. Bobby didn't take into account that DS would be willing to lose money/points intentionally in order to screw Bobby, which I believe he was willing to do and did.

Just my 2 cents coming from a different angle.

The evidence is actually in black and white on this one fire; DS explained why he was doing it in the same post he accepted and won the wager:

So the guy who constantly runs around hammering stiffs and slow pays clearly offers a bet here and then clearly loses. He then decides he is going to stiff me because he made a stupid offer shooting off his mouth.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-terms-p2.html


Specifically, please see post #43 where he offers




And then post #51 where I simultaneously accept and win wager.




He wager offer clearly states he bets he will reach 100k before Tat and his only stipulation is that no loans be solicited by himself or Tat. I gifted(which is certainly not a loan nor was it solicited) Tat 100k points because its funny to beat Bobby when he is shooting off his mouth.


Am I wrong here, If you are a judge and have to decide what do you decide?

We have the only guy who knows DS' intent (DS) explaining very clearly why he did it, and that explanation is consistent with how he's behaved for years....what more evidence is needed?

[brainfreeze]

He sent it back weeks later when he realized Bobby was stiffing me. Had Bobby have paid his lost bet those points would have never been sent back. Tat texted me he was sending back and I actually told him no need.

Had Bobby had paid losing bet and then Tat sent back you could make the case but since Bobby stiffed he would not accept my gift.

Just give it back to him ds, for the sake of integrity to the points subforum and contest ...though bob is a special case and I'm sure others wouldn't be offended either way, I think Try is right, in that it was a public contest and he was involved in that capacity " as everyone else " ..

maybe bob will stop being so scary and do a short term poker contest...just beat him out of the points.

[Triple_D_Bet]

How did they follow the golf ball travels for 1 mile, where does the story say someone had binoculars or a telescope to follow the ball? So if this huge lake was frozen solid, there was this big crowd of people following Slim in 10 below weather? Where did this take place, Alaska? If the weather wasn't that cold, then there could have been man made holes in the lake used for ice fishing. Or possibly other natural holes in the ice, with the golf ball landing in the drink prior to reaching the 1 mile destination.

I call BS.

So Slim was an angle shooting douchebag, what's your point?

So angle shooting makes someone a douchebag? Interesting...

Picked up on this angle long time ago, but I'm obviously not a broke dikk who needs the pts.

I taught the OP how to exploit this angle, all broke dikks such as yourself should be implementing it.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Just give it back to him ds, for the sake of integrity to the points subforum and contest ...though bob is a special case and I'm sure others wouldn't be offended either way, I think Try is right, in that it was a public contest and he was involved in that capacity " as everyone else " ..

maybe bob will stop being so scary and do a short term poker contest...just beat him out of the points.

Freezer, not even two months ago bobbo was well aware that my contests were not open to him:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post25947724

There was no ambiguity at all, and my contests are never open to stiffs.

Bobbo's not accepting any sane poker challenges, but that's neither here nor there.

[Fire in da hole]

The evidence is actually in black and white on this one fire; DS explained why he was doing it in the same post he accepted and won the wager:



We have the only guy who knows DS' intent (DS) explaining very clearly why he did it, and that explanation is consistent with how he's behaved for years....what more evidence is needed?

I stand corrected, I did not go back and read the entire post, but arguments from various individuals.

Since DS did say that he gifted 100k pts to TAT because he thinks its funny to screw Bobby more, I would have to say DS won the bet.

Hindsight is 20x20 now that Tat gave the pts back, but how long after DS gave him the points was it before Tat sent them back? Up until the point where Tat sent them back there was no reason for Bobby to not pay up on the bet.

Was he arguing that Tat would eventually give the pts back? well, that speculation, and wouldn't hold up in court.

[brainfreeze]

So angle shooting makes someone a douchebag? Interesting...

I know right, every time he types, it's like he can't help but bury himself deeper...

[Triple_D_Bet]

I stand corrected, I did not go back and read the entire post, but arguments from various individuals.

Since DS did say that he gifted 100k pts to TAT because he thinks its funny to screw Bobby more, I would have to say DS won the bet.

Hindsight is 20x20 now that Tat gave the pts back, but how long after DS gave him the points was it before Tat sent them back? Up until the point where Tat sent them back there was no reason for Bobby to not pay up on the bet.

Was he arguing that Tat would eventually give the pts back? well, that speculation, and wouldn't hold up in court.

Little over a month between bobbo declaring he wouldn't pay and tat sending them back, with bobbo changing his story from initially calling it a gift to insisting it was a loan (which wasn't even prohibited). Very cut and dry.

[Fire in da hole]

I also have a suggestion to end this debate once and for all AND do it for a good cause.

I believe DS was willing to gift the pts, so he would've lost 28k net. If Bobby honored the bet, he would've lost 72k.

72/28=2.57142 Bobby would've lost 2.5714 points to every 1 point DS lost.

Bobby currently has 18,815 pts, which using the ratio above would mean DS would need to kick in 7,317 pts. DS currently has 9,988. Why doesn't both players send the points to Trytrytry and have him donate them to angelman?

We can argue about this for years, but I've yet to see someone come up with an alternative solution to try to resolve it now, other than the entire 72k which bobby doesn't have.

[bobbywaves]

So angle shooting makes someone a douchebag? Interesting...

When the intent was to steal thousands of dollars from your fellow country club members & friends, absolutely Tripe.