[Buffalo Nickle]

That's why they call it gambling. Some people gamble on books.

[Buffalo Nickle]

If the guy can't count, can't use a calculator, or is too lazy to calculate the rollover himself and expects a sportsbook to put a silly little calculator on their website for their idiotic customers, then it most certainly was a thoroughly stupid question, of which I gave a perfectly accurate and valid response, of which there can be no doubt.

There is definintely a doubt.

[luctens]

I started this thread, you dope.

You are acting like everything is hunky dory, you aren't in a mess and the awful situation you are in is normal. That simply isn't the case. If you do proper research, act on that research, and show common sense, then it is highly likely that you will never be in the horrific situation that you are currently in. So stop pretending like everything's ok and that it's a normal situation that you're in, as the fact is that if you had done your homework and showed some common sense, you wouldn't be in this mess whatsoever in the first place.

[Buffalo Nickle]

You are acting like everything is hunky dory, you aren't in a mess and the awful situation you are in is normal. That simply isn't the case. If you do proper research, act on that research, and show common sense, then it is highly likely that you will never be in the horrific situation that you are currently in. So stop pretending like everything's ok and that it's a normal situation that you're in, as the fact is that if you had done your homework and showed some common sense, you wouldn't be in this mess whatsoever in the first place.

Again, I started this thread, you dope.

[luctens]

That's why they call it gambling. Some people gamble on books.

Oh dear. They call it gambling because you gamble on the result of a sporting event that you have bet on, you may win or you may lose on that bet, that's where the "gambling" comes into play you idiot. The "gambling" most certainly doesn't come into play whatsoever by "gambling" on whether you will get your payout or not, because as long as you do your homework and only bet with reputable bookmakers, then you can be sure of getting your payout, so there is no "gambling" whatsoever required on whether you will get your payout or not. You really are idiotic if you think "gambling" is required in order to have a chance of getting your payout.

[luctens]

There is definintely a doubt.

No doubt whatsoever. Stupid question. Accurate answer. If you disagree with that, you're most certainly of the same level of stupidity as the person that originally posted that question.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Oh dear. They call it gambling because you gamble on the result of a sporting event that you have bet on, you may win or you may lose on that bet, that's where the "gambling" comes into play you idiot. The "gambling" most certainly doesn't come into play whatsoever by "gambling" on whether you will get your payout or not, because as long as you do your homework and only bet with reputable bookmakers, then you can be sure of getting your payout, so there is no "gambling" whatsoever required on whether you will get your payout or not. You really are idiotic if you think "gambling" is required in order to have a chance of getting your payout.

It's not exactly gambling when you bet even odds across a number of books lukey baby. Then you only have to worry about the payouts. Let see if Topbet pays out. You are getting a little hysterical.

[luctens]

Again, I started this thread, you dope.

It makes absolutely no difference who started the thread. You've made some awful mistakes in getting your money tied up with Topbet and everybody on this forum would do very well to do the exact opposite of everything you have done in order to continue their pursuit of not getting scammed or stiffed out of their money. And you really learn from your dreadful mistakes in this debacle.

[Buffalo Nickle]

It makes absolutely no difference who started the thread. You've made some awful mistakes in getting your money tied up with Topbet and everybody on this forum would do very well to do the exact opposite of everything you have done in order to continue their pursuit of not getting scammed or stiffed out of their money. And you really learn from your dreadful mistakes in this debacle.

It is not a mistake until they don't pay. This whole thing could be overblown. They may only have processor problems. They aren't very far behind. Topbet is not exactly a tiny book.

[luctens]

It's not exactly gambling when you bet even odds across a number of books lukey baby. Then you only have to worry about the payouts. Let see if Topbet pays out. You are getting a little hysterical.

I bet at the best prices in the world, highly advisable. And I only bet with reputable bookmakers where I can be sure of getting my payout, highly advisable. I don't have to worry one bit about getting my payouts, as I always bet with reputable bookmakers where my payout is always prompt and on time. I don't ever have to "see" if my bookmaker pays out, it's a given, every single time. I never have to do any "gambling" on whether I will get my payout or not, unlike what you're having to do now, and when the "gambling" has to extend to whether you will get your payout or not because you have picked such a dodgy bookmaker to play with, then you really have to learn the lessons from your mistakes, otherwise you are simply fresh meat for all of the rest of the scammers and broke bookmakers out there who will just hook you in, take your money, and you'll never see it again. Bookmakers across the land will be dying to know your details so they can call you up and hook you in to another dodgy sportsbook, as you have mug written right across your forehead for getting yourself into the almighty mess you are in with such a completely obviously dodgy bookmaker.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I bet at the best prices in the world, highly advisable. And I only bet with reputable bookmakers where I can be sure of getting my payout, highly advisable. I don't have to worry one bit about getting my payouts, as I always bet with reputable bookmakers where my payout is always prompt and on time. I don't ever have to "see" if my bookmaker pays out, it's a given, every single time. I never have to do any "gambling" on whether I will get my payout or not, unlike what you're having to do now, and when the "gambling" has to extend to whether you will get your payout or not because you have picked such a dodgy bookmaker to play with, then you really have to learn the lessons from your mistakes, otherwise you are simply fresh meat for all of the rest of the scammers and broke bookmakers out there who will just hook you in, take your money, and you'll never see it again. Bookmakers across the land will be dying to know your details so they can call you up and hook you in to another dodgy sportsbook, as you have mug written right across your forehead for getting yourself into the almighty mess you are in with such a completely obviously dodgy bookmaker.

I am about to get banned from bonuses from every book when this election is done.

[luctens]

It is not a mistake until they don't pay. This whole thing could be overblown. They may only have processor problems. They aren't very far behind. Topbet is not exactly a tiny book.

It's obviously an extremely big mistake as it is, whether they pay or not, as you're in the situation of "gambling" on whether you will get your payout or not, and that's not a situation that any gambler with any common sense would ever put themselves into, and as I said previously, put yourself in this situation enough times, and you'll come up empty enough times on that "gamble" on whether you get that payout or not and that'll seal your fate with no doubt that you will inevitably lose your bankroll in the end to stiffers and scammers.

And they so obviously don't just have "processor problems". They are taking more than 3 times as long as they advertise for payouts, and this has been going on for months, this isn't just some processor problem, this is obviously a massive cashflow problem and they are obviously on the brink of or at already at the stage of going under, and if you're one of the ones that are left carrying the can and getting stiffed at the end of it, then you'll only have yourself to blame.

[luctens]

I am about to get banned from bonuses from every book when this election is done.

Don't worry, for people like you there's always a few more scam and broke bookmakers out there ready to reel you in, take you for a ride and scam you out of your money.

[Buffalo Nickle]

It's obviously an extremely big mistake as it is, whether they pay or not, as you're in the situation of "gambling" on whether you will get your payout or not, and that's not a situation that any gambler with any common sense would ever put themselves into, and as I said previously, put yourself in this situation enough times, and you'll come up empty enough times on that "gamble" on whether you get that payout or not and that'll seal your fate with no doubt that you will inevitably lose your bankroll in the end to stiffers and scammers.

And they so obviously don't just have "processor problems". They are taking more than 3 times as long as they advertise for payouts, and this has been going on for months, this isn't just some processor problem, this is obviously a massive cashflow problem and they are obviously on the brink of or at already at the stage of going under, and if you're one of the ones that are left carrying the can and getting stiffed at the end of it, then you'll only have yourself to blame.

I took that into consideration when I deposited there, you dope.

[luctens]

I took that into consideration when I deposited there, you dope.

So you did your full research on Topbet, you knew they were dodgy and obviously had massive cashflow problems and on the brink of going under, but you still thought it was a good idea to bet with them.Oh dear, you really are a complete and utter idiot.

[Buffalo Nickle]

So you did your full research on Topbet, you knew they were dodgy and obviously had massive cashflow problems and on the brink of going under, but you still thought it was a good idea to bet with them.Oh dear, you really are a complete and utter idiot.

Yes, I did my research. At the time, they were having credit card problems the same and Bookmaker and Bovada. So was not too concerned. I started this thread but you are really hysterical.

At this time, they are not behind enough to even be concerned. But they are showing some smoke. We'll see how it all turns out.

I'll be out some winnings but some others will really take a beating. There are some big balances there.

I'll still be surprised if they don't wind up paying.

[luctens]

Yes, I did my research. At the time, they were having credit card problems the same and Bookmaker and Bovada. So was not too concerned. I started this thread but you are really hysterical.

At this time, they are not behind enough to even be concerned. But they are showing some smoke. We'll see how it all turns out.

I'll be out some winnings but some others will really take a beating. There are some big balances there.

I'll still be surprised if they don't wind up paying.

Don't try and kid yourself. They've been as late this with payouts for months, and don't believe anything you hear about "credit card problems" or "processor problems", it's all complete rubbish. Anybody can see from a mile away that Topbet have been on the brink of going under for months, and only complete idiots have signed up and bet with them in that time.

If you're "not concerned" with what you're seeing from Topbet and you're "not concerned" with them taking over 3 times the advertised time for payouts, then you're simply delusional. It is very simple, if you had taken the very simple and common sense steps to avoid signing up with bookmakers like Topbet, then you wouldn't have to "see how it all turns out" and only be "surprised if they don't wind up paying". If you took these very simple and common sense steps and played at reputable bookmakers in the first place, then you would be sure of your payout, and you wouldn't be in this shambles having to "gamble" on whether you get your payout or not.

And you're saying that there are some players with big balances there like's that's a good thing. Do you not get it, the more money that Topbet owes, the less chance you have of getting any money from them you idiot.

[Buffalo Nickle]

luctens you remain the master of the obvious. I'll see you around when you are pointing out the obvious again.

[luctens]

luctens you remain the master of the obvious. I'll see you around when you are pointing out the obvious again.

Obviously not obvious enough for you, as otherwise you wouldn't have got yourself into this terrible state in the first place.

[SBR Forum]

We spoke with Topbet management and communicated reader concerns on the big bonus model plus reduced lines, especially in conjunction with a backlog of payment issues. Topbet said this is a special Wednesday promo which has been in place for a number of years. There's a section called "Happy Hour" on their site detailing the perk.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I guess I have never logged in on a Wednesday.

I am sorry to have started this post and taken on luctens. luctens is pretty long-winded so let me summarize his major points regarding Topbet so SBR readers, who already have reading comprehensions issues, will not have to read two pages:

1. Topbet is broke. Get your money out now even if you have rollover.

2. If you want to know what your rollover is, just calculate it in your account history with a calculator. Only idiots use rollover calculators or even want one.

3. If you put all your money in books that go bust like Topbet has, you will lose all your money.

4. Books with large balances like Topbet are HARDER to get money out of because they have more money to pay out. This is obvious, of course. That is why he pointed it out.

5. Only bet with the largest bookmakers and bet games you think will win.

[luctens]

I guess I have never logged in on a Wednesday.

I am sorry to have started this post and taken on luctens. luctens is pretty long-winded so let me summarize his major points regarding Topbet so SBR readers, who already have reading comprehensions issues, will not have to read two pages:

1. Topbet is broke. Get your money out now even if you have rollover.

2. If you want to know what your rollover is, just calculate it in your account history with a calculator. Only idiots use rollover calculators or even want one.

3. If you put all your money in books that go bust like Topbet has, you will lose all your money.

4. Books with large balances like Topbet are HARDER to get money out of because they have more money to pay out. This is obvious, of course. That is why he pointed it out.

5. Only bet with the largest bookmakers and bet games you think will win.

1. Topbet is either broke or on the brink of going broke, either way nobody should be playing there so if you don't have money with them, don't go near them, if you have a balance with them, request a withdrawal of the whole lot immediately. If you have a balance there with rollover attached, complete the rollover as soon as possible and if there's anything left in the balance after the rollover, request a withdrawal of the whole balance immediately.

2. Yes, if you want to know your account history, simply add it up yourselves or use your own calculator you idiots, you're not in little school anymore, you have to do things for yourselves now.

3. Correct, very obvious common sense I am speaking in that if you roll the dice too many times with dodgy, scam and broke bookmakers like Topbet, you will come off on the wrong end enough times and lose your whole bankroll to these stiffs and scammers.

4. Yes it is obvious that the more money a book owes the less chance you have of getting any money from them, but you were pointing it out that because some other players have big money there, you were making out that us a good thing, which it so obviously isn't. All it means is that there are other idiots like you with money stuck in a dodgy bookmaker and more people like you that need to go back to the drawing board and learn the lessons from the awful mess that they are in.

5. There's not a problem with betting with some smaller bookmakers, it doesn't always have to be big bookmakers, there are many smaller than goliath bookmakers that I bet with around the world and they are secure. The simple thing to do is that whether the bookmaker is big or small, do full and proper research and use your brain when choosing whether to bet with a particular bookmaker. And my betting philosophy is simply to bet when the odds are in your favour, but only do those bets with bookmakers that if you win you can be sure that they will pay you.

If anybody disagrees with any of these extremely common sense views, then you're on your way along with Buffalo Nickle to the oblivion, tossing away all of your bankroll to stiffers and scammers along the way.

[Buffalo Nickle]

1. Topbet is either broke or on the brink of going broke, either way nobody should be playing there so if you don't have money with them, don't go near them, if you have a balance with them, request a withdrawal of the whole lot immediately. If you have a balance there with rollover attached, complete the rollover as soon as possible and if there's anything left in the balance after the rollover, request a withdrawal of the whole balance immediately.

2. Yes, if you want to know your account history, simply add it up yourselves or use your own calculator you idiots, you're not in little school anymore, you have to do things for yourselves now.

3. Correct, very obvious common sense I am speaking in that if you roll the dice too many times with dodgy, scam and broke bookmakers like Topbet, you will come off on the wrong end enough times and lose your whole bankroll to these stiffs and scammers.

4. Yes it is obvious that the more money a book owes the less chance you have of getting any money from them, but you were pointing it out that because some other players have big money there, you were making out that us a good thing, which it so obviously isn't. All it means is that there are other idiots like you with money stuck in a dodgy bookmaker and more people like you that need to go back to the drawing board and learn the lessons from the awful mess that they are in.

5. There's not a problem with betting with some smaller bookmakers, it doesn't always have to be big bookmakers, there are many smaller than goliath bookmakers that I bet with around the world and they are secure. The simple thing to do is that whether the bookmaker is big or small, do full and proper research and use your brain when choosing whether to bet with a particular bookmaker. And my betting philosophy is simply to bet when the odds are in your favour, but only do those bets with bookmakers that if you win you can be sure that they will pay you.

If anybody disagrees with any of these extremely common sense views, then you're on your way along with Buffalo Nickle to the oblivion, tossing away all of your bankroll to stiffers and scammers along the way.

Good grief. Look how much better mine was. Totally unnecessary.

I am starting to feel pretty good about Topbet now as a result of this post.

[luctens]

Good grief. Look how much better mine was. Totally unnecessary.

I am starting to feel pretty good about Topbet now as a result of this post.

That'll be the in denial and delusional stage of a potential stiffing kicking in.

[Crusherrr]

That'll be the in denial and delusional stage of a potential stiffing kicking in.

This dude needs to go. I really don't understand how you sit on SBR all day berating people for playing on whatever book they play with. Leave everyone alone. Worry about what books you play with and not everyone else. I've played with probably 30 different books that you'd never touch and guess what I've never been stiffed one time. Even though you'd preach to me all the warning signs they have. I keep low balances, get great odds and very good bonuses. Even Sportsbook.ag continues to pay me now in record time when you still sit behind your computer having a mental breakdown that I'd even consider having 1cent with them.

Find a new hobby dude.

[luctens]

This dude needs to go. I really don't understand how you sit on SBR all day berating people for playing on whatever book they play with. Leave everyone alone. Worry about what books you play with and not everyone else. I've played with probably 30 different books that you'd never touch and guess what I've never been stiffed one time. Even though you'd preach to me all the warning signs they have. I keep low balances, get great odds and very good bonuses. Even Sportsbook.ag continues to pay me now in record time when you still sit behind your computer having a mental breakdown that I'd even consider having 1cent with them.

Find a new hobby dude.

I will post whatever I want to. I don't need to run anything by you or ask your permission, so quit with the "Leave everyone alone" spiel.I simply comment on bookmakers on whether it is a good idea to bet with them or not, giving very much a balanced view indeed, very much common sense, it really is that simple. If you've got an issue with that, then that's your silly little problem to have.

[captrobey]

I never deposited there because the limits if i remember were lower. It does not matter anyways since i have readjusted my life and am in constant communication with my new family . Bongo, Matty,Quincy, Snuggles,Skippy,Happy,and Darkling Lord of Decay and Blood and Death.