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    They have changed their minds and are back to -110.

    Weird stuff going on there.

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    what???

    Whats up with your title? "Topbet Announces They Have Gone Bust.."?

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    They converted their platform to -105 odds last night. That was either a "glitch" or they decided to go gonzo.

    If they decided to go gonzo, they are bust. Most likely got enough calls that they decided it was not going to work.

    Something is up.

    The website is a disaste, but I don't think any book accidently puts up -105 on every bet.

    They show every sign of being a bust book right now.

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    Buffalo,

    Titles like this are extremely misleading to SBR Forum readers. Please limit the sensationalism to your opinion inside of the actual body of the post to prevent readers from being confused thinking that an actual statement was made either through the newswire or the sportsbook itself.

    The title "Newswire: Announces They Have Gone Bust by Converting to -105 Odds" has been changed to Topbet Sportsbook Speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Forum View Post
    Buffalo,

    Titles like this are extremely misleading to SBR Forum readers. Please limit the sensationalism to your opinion inside of the actual body of the post to prevent readers from being confused thinking that an actual statement was made either through the newswire or the sportsbook itself.

    The title "Newswire: Announces They Have Gone Bust by Converting to -105 Odds" has been changed to Topbet Sportsbook Speculation

    It is a bit high level I have to admit. SBR readers are easily dazed and confused. My apologies.

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    How long can you expect places to survive anyway? What buffalo is saying can easily happen. This. Place is only worth a few hundred deposit and $1000 max Balance at any time.

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    Their website is terrible, takes forever for things to load and update.
    Also, took them 3 months to send a payment to me earlier in the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    They converted their platform to -105 odds last night. That was either a "glitch" or they decided to go gonzo.

    If they decided to go gonzo, they are bust. Most likely got enough calls that they decided it was not going to work.

    Something is up.

    The website is a disaste, but I don't think any book accidently puts up -105 on every bet.

    They show every sign of being a bust book right now.
    Why are you even wasting your time looking at what margins Topbet are betting to anyway? They obviously have massive cashflow problems and are on the brink anytime now of going under for good, so if you've got any money with them then you simply need to request a withdrawal of your full balance immediately and hope for the best, or if you haven't got any money with them, then be happy you aren't in the middle of the mess that is Topbet, get on betting elsewhere with proper bookmakers and stop wasting any of your time worrying about what margins Topbet are betting to.

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    Because I have an account there? It is called rollover Luctens. You need to check into it so you stop making asinine comments. Topbet has been around since 2000. They may go under or they may pull through.

    There is good money to be made in bonuses and if Topbet pulls through I will make a lot. Bet your -110 lines. I can afford to lose because I don't bet them. Not ever.
    Last edited by Buffalo Nickle; 10-06-16 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Because I have an account there? It is called rollover Luctens. You need to check into it so you stop making asinine comments. Topbet has been around since 2000. They may go under or they may pull through.

    There is good money to be made in bonuses and if Topbet pulls through I will make a lot. Bet your -110 lines. I can afford to lose because I don't bet them. Not ever.
    Luctens is a giant troll. If you stand up for any site or post positive news about anything he will belittle you for playing on a book that isn't A rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Luctens is a giant troll. If you stand up for any site or post positive news about anything he will belittle you for playing on a book that isn't A rated.
    luctens thinks everybody should bet -110 like he does and lose. He has no clue how gambling even works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    luctens thinks everybody should bet -110 like he does and lose. He has no clue how gambling even works.
    At least he has a clue about some things,you have no clue about anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael777 View Post
    At least he has a clue about some things,you have no clue about anything
    Still cannot get a connection when dialing 777. 7s says Topbet is A+. Good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Because I have an account there? It is called rollover Luctens. You need to check into it so you stop making asinine comments. Topbet has been around since 2000. They may go under or they may pull through.

    There is good money to be made in bonuses and if Topbet pulls through I will make a lot. Bet your -110 lines. I can afford to lose because I don't bet them. Not ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    luctens thinks everybody should bet -110 like he does and lose. He has no clue how gambling even works.
    I know more than you'll ever know about gambling. I know that gambling is far best done at best odds with bookmakers that you can be sure that they will pay. I know what rollover is, and I will only take a bonus with a bookmaker and therefore start rollover with a bookmaker that is reputable and that I'm sure will pay.

    Let's contrast that with you, you say Topbet has been around since 2000, that means nothing as it is obvious to anybody with half a brain cell that the current state that they are in is that they are on the brink of or already at the stage of going under, but you still think signing up with an on the brink bookmaker like Topbet is a good idea and consequently being stuck there not having a clue whether you'll ever see your money again because of your bonus hunting at bookmakers that "may go under or they may pull through."

    There is only good money to be made with bonuses if you are sure that bookmaker will pay you, otherwise it's just monopoly money. You really need to stick to the reputable ones that you are sure will pay, otherwise this most certainly won't be the first potential stiffing you come up against with your stupid strategy of bonus hunting with dodgy bookmakers. And don't try and kid yourself that you can afford a stiffing because you don't bet -110 lines, whatever lines you bet won't shield you from a stiffing, stop kidding yourself, you didn't sign up with Topbet to get stiffed, and now faced with the real chance of getting stiffed, you're panicking and trying to make excuses to save face, and it doesn't wash whatsoever.

    And regarding the lines I bet, I simply select the bet I want, I find the best price in the world for that selection and I bet at the best price in the world that any reputable bookmaker is offering that will let me bet with them. It really is very simple. And I most definitely don't lose when betting as I am a long term winner. And number of times I've been stiffed in years of betting? Zero. Reason? I have nouse, common sense and some brain cells that allow me to deduce that bookmakers like Topbet are obviously an awful proposition to sign up with. You really need to add these qualities to your armoury before you ultimately inevitably get your whole bankroll wiped out by scam and broke bookmakers like Topbet.
    Last edited by luctens; 10-06-16 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Luctens is a giant troll. If you stand up for any site or post positive news about anything he will belittle you for playing on a book that isn't A rated.
    Couldn't be further from the truth. If you look back through all of my posts you will see that I have a very diverse and balanced view of all things gambling. Simply put, if a bookmaker is reputable, I will say it like it is that they are a good bookmaker and worth looking into betting with, but if a bookmaker is obviously a scam, broke, massive cashflow problems or on the brink of any of these things, I will say it as it is in no uncertain terms that nobody should be betting at a bookmaker like that.

    Simply put, I say it as it is. If you don't like that, that's your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    I know more than you'll ever know about gambling. I know that gambling is far best done at best odds with bookmakers that you can be sure that they will pay. I know what rollover is, and I will only take a bonus with a bookmaker and therefore start rollover with a bookmaker that is reputable and that I'm sure will pay.

    Let's contrast that with you, you say Topbet has been around since 2000, that means nothing as it is obvious to anybody with half a brain cell that the current state that they are in is that they are on the brink of or already at the stage of going under, but you still think signing up with an on the brink bookmaker like Topbet is a good idea and consequently being stuck there not having a clue whether you'll ever see your money again because of your bonus hunting at bookmakers that "may go under or they may pull through."

    There is only good money to be made with bonuses if you are sure that bookmaker will pay you, otherwise it's just monopoly money. You really need to stick to the reputable ones that you are sure will pay, otherwise this most certainly won't be the first potential stiffing you come up against with your stupid strategy of bonus hunting with dodgy bookmakers. And don't try and kid yourself that you can afford a stiffing because you don't bet -110 lines, whatever lines you bet won't shield you from a stiffing, stop kidding yourself, you didn't sign up with Topbet to get stiffed, and now faced with the real chance of getting stiffed, you're panicking and trying to make excuses to save face, and it doesn't wash whatsoever.

    And regarding the lines I bet, I simply select the bet I want, I find the best price in the world for that selection and I bet at the best price in the world that any reputable bookmaker is offering that will let me bet with them. It really is very simple. And I most definitely don't lose when betting as I am a long term winner. And number of times I've been stiffed in years of betting? Zero. Reason? I have nouse, common sense and some brain cells that allow me to deduce that bookmakers like Topbet are obviously an awful proposition to sign up with. You really need to add these qualities to your armoury before you ultimately inevitably get your whole bankroll wiped out by scam and broke bookmakers like Topbet.

    Who said anything about having all their money at Topbet? More long-winded insipidity. That about covers it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    Couldn't be further from the truth. If you look back through all of my posts you will see that I have a very diverse and balanced view of all things gambling. Simply put, if a bookmaker is reputable, I will say it like it is that they are a good bookmaker and worth looking into betting with, but if a bookmaker is obviously a scam, broke, massive cashflow problems or on the brink of any of these things, I will say it as it is in no uncertain terms that nobody should be betting at a bookmaker like that.

    Simply put, I say it as it is. If you don't like that, that's your problem.
    There are some very obvious scam books and I'm certainly not sticking up for TopBet because I don't play there and haven't. That being said, you're problem is that you cant keep your mouth shut and continue to chime in on threads that you have no real input on. You literally help nobody and serve no purpose here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    There are some very obvious scam books and I'm certainly not sticking up for TopBet because I don't play there and haven't. That being said, you're problem is that you cant keep your mouth shut and continue to chime in on threads that you have no real input on. You literally help nobody and serve no purpose here.
    That's not true. Just the other day luctens suggested calculating your rollover by going into your account history. He is full of pearls of wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Who said anything about having all their money at Topbet? More long-winded insipidity. That about covers it.
    I never said whatsoever that you have all of your money at Topbet, you really should have read my post properly before you posted such a complete and utter falsehood. In any case, any balance whatsoever over 0.00 is way too much to have at Topbet. I was making the extremely valid point that if you go on betting at scam and broke bookmakers like Topbet just because they have a bonus or for any other reason for that matter, it'll just be a simple matter of time before your bankroll gets decimated as you get scammed and stiffed time after time until your bankroll gets completely wiped out once and for all, and when that ending inevitably arrives, you'll only have yourself to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    I never said whatsoever that you have all of your money at Topbet, you really should have read my post properly before you posted such a complete and utter falsehood. In any case, any balance whatsoever over 0.00 is way too much to have at Topbet. I was making the extremely valid point that if you go on betting at scam and broke bookmakers like Topbet just because they have a bonus or for any other reason for that matter, it'll just be a simple matter of time before your bankroll gets decimated as you get scammed and stiffed time after time until your bankroll gets completely wiped out once and for all, and when that ending inevitably arrives, you'll only have yourself to blame.
    Thank you for yet another statement of the stunningly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    There are some very obvious scam books and I'm certainly not sticking up for TopBet because I don't play there and haven't. That being said, you're problem is that you cant keep your mouth shut and continue to chime in on threads that you have no real input on. You literally help nobody and serve no purpose here.
    I will post when I can offer constructive information to a thread and I most certainly help a lot of people in telling them where is safe to play and where isn't and I serve a very valid purpose in this forum giving a diverse range of knowledge on all types of worldwide gambling topics. I've never once been stiffed in years of betting, so you can be absolutely certain that my posts are well worth reading for anybody that wants to avoid getting scammed or stiffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    I will post when I can offer constructive information to a thread and I most certainly help a lot of people in telling them where is safe to play and where isn't and I serve a very valid purpose in this forum giving a diverse range of knowledge on all types of worldwide gambling topics. I've never once been stiffed in years of betting, so you can be absolutely certain that my posts are well worth reading for anybody that wants to avoid getting scammed or stiffed.
    Yes. Bet -110 odds at Bookmaker and look up your rollover in your account history. Thanks again luctens for your valuable advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    That's not true. Just the other day luctens suggested calculating your rollover by going into your account history. He is full of pearls of wisdom.
    Somebody was being extremely lazy by expecting the sportsbook to help him like a 3 year old with an on-board rollover calculator and I very simply pointed out that it wasn't needed whatsoever as long that person can count, can use a normal calculator or isn't so lazy that they can't be bothered to do it themselves. It was a perfectly valid and accurate response to a thoroughly stupid question.

    If you've got an issue with that, then that's your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    Somebody was being extremely lazy by expecting the sportsbook to help him like a 3 year old with an on-board rollover calculator and I very simply pointed out that it wasn't needed whatsoever as long that person can count, can use a normal calculator or isn't so lazy that they can't be bothered to do it themselves. It was a perfectly valid and accurate response to a thoroughly stupid question.

    If you've got an issue with that, then that's your problem.
    Yes, that was a luctens classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Thank you for yet another statement of the stunningly obvious.
    If it's that "stunningly obvious" to you, then you really shouldn't have got so confused with what I said in the post originally. And if it's so "stunningly obvious" to you, then you really should already have taken the extremely simple steps to avoid signing up to dodgy bookmakers like Topbet in the first place, as if you had have taken those extremely simple steps, then you wouldn't be in the complete and utter mess that you're in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    If it's that "stunningly obvious" to you, then you really shouldn't have got so confused with what I said in the post originally. And if it's so "stunningly obvious" to you, then you really should already have taken the extremely simple steps to avoid signing up to dodgy bookmakers like Topbet in the first place, as if you had have taken those extremely simple steps, then you wouldn't be in the complete and utter mess that you're in now.
    I'm not in any mess right now. When Topbet goes under, you can talk. If I walk away with a couple grand, I will obviously not be needing any of your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Yes. Bet -110 odds at Bookmaker and look up your rollover in your account history. Thanks again luctens for your valuable advice.
    I bet at a multitude of worldwide bookmakers and I simply select a bet and price that I want, look up the worldwide sports betting market to see if the odds are to my liking, and if they are, I will see what the absolute best price in the world that is available from reputable bookmakers that will still let me bet with them, and then I will place that bet at the best available price. It really is that simple.

    And if I need to know what rollover I'm on for a bonus, I will have already put down all of the bet details into a fully customised sports betting spreadsheet that can tell me in seconds any statistics, rollovers or anything that I could possibly want to know about my sports betting. Again it really is very simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Yes, that was a luctens classic.
    As I said, if you've got an issue with me making a perfectly valid and accurate response to a thoroughly stupid question, then that's your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    I bet at a multitude of worldwide bookmakers and I simply select a bet and price that I want, look up the worldwide sports betting market to see if the odds are to my liking, and if they are, I will see what the absolute best price in the world that is available from reputable bookmakers that will still let me bet with them, and then I will place that bet at the best available price. It really is that simple.

    And if I need to know what rollover I'm on for a bonus, I will have already put down all of the bet details into a fully customised sports betting spreadsheet that can tell me in seconds any statistics, rollovers or anything that I could possibly want to know about my sports betting. Again it really is very simple.
    Gee, that is simple. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    As I said, if you've got an issue with me making a perfectly valid and accurate response to a thoroughly stupid question, then that's your problem.
    It wasn't a stupid question. It was a stupid answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    I'm not in any mess right now. When Topbet goes under, you can talk. If I walk away with a couple grand, I will obviously not be needing any of your advice.
    You have money stuck in a book that is obviously having massive cash flow problems, is on the brink of going under for good, and you yourself have said "show every sign of being a bust book right now." That most definitely means that you are in a complete and utter mess.

    Whenever you have to mention the word "if" in terms of whether you are going to get your payout, and when you yourself have said the book is showing every sign of being a bust book, then you are most definitely in big trouble.

    I don't gamble on whether I will get my payouts, I play at bookmakers where I can be sure of getting my payout, you really need to do the same, otherwise you'll inevitably have your bankroll wiped out soon. And whether Topbet end up paying you or not, that's not the justification of whether you need my advice or not, you really need to learn that simply being in this awful mess in the first place settles that question right here, right now, as you are running the tightrope with dodgy bookmakers and even if you hit the jackpot this time and get your money from Topbet, you're simply not going to hit the jackpot every time, and if you keep on putting yourself in these kinds of horrific situations, then you'll come up empty far more times than you'll hit the jackpot, and then your bankroll will inevitably be wiped out by stiffs and scams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctens View Post
    You have money stuck in a book that is obviously having massive cash flow problems, is on the brink of going under for good, and you yourself have said "show every sign of being a bust book right now." That most definitely means that you are in a complete and utter mess.

    Whenever you have to mention the word "if" in terms of whether you are going to get your payout, and when you yourself have said the book is showing every sign of being a bust book, then you are most definitely in big trouble.

    I don't gamble on whether I will get my payouts, I play at bookmakers where I can be sure of getting my payout, you really need to do the same, otherwise you'll inevitably have your bankroll wiped out soon. And whether Topbet end up paying you or not, that's not the justification of whether you need my advice or not, you really need to learn that simply being in this awful mess in the first place settles that question right here, right now, as you are running the tightrope with dodgy bookmakers and even if you hit the jackpot this time and get your money from Topbet, you're simply not going to hit the jackpot every time, and if you keep on putting yourself in these kinds of horrific situations, then you'll come up empty far more times than you'll hit the jackpot, and then your bankroll will inevitably be wiped out by stiffs and scams.
    I started this thread, you dope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    Gee, that is simple. Thank you.
    If it's that simple, you really should already have been implementing this yourself and only betting at reputable bookmakers where you can be sure of getting your payout, as anybody doing that wouldn't have gone anywhere near Topbet, as right now you're one of those suckers that got roped in by a dodgy bookmaker offering a bonus and you are now on the hook with money on the line at the complete mercy of a dodgy bookmaker that is the brink of or at the stage of being completely broke, and that is an completely awful situation to be in, but it is a situation that you could have so easily avoided yourself, if only you had some simple common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    It wasn't a stupid question. It was a stupid answer.
    If the guy can't count, can't use a calculator, or is too lazy to calculate the rollover himself and expects a sportsbook to put a silly little calculator on their website for their idiotic customers, then it most certainly was a thoroughly stupid question, of which I gave a perfectly accurate and valid response, of which there can be no doubt.

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