1. 04-25-14 12:06 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Are those same players concerned when I eventually got stiffed by 18th? Fact of the matter is, many stated they received payouts on forums including myself. Considering their lines, bonuses, & documented payouts at the time, the risk was well worth the reward. I still profited 10x the stiff amount by utilizing them. For those who joined late, or chose not to profit from all the arbs/bonuses & lost money is unfortunate. The difference between me & others, pros comprehend the concept of risk/reward & don't cry about setbacks.
    steveX still loves them, they paid him $500 in 4 hours, he says i love that book. LOL
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  2. 04-25-14 07:45 AM #37
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    Give Cesar what belong to Cesar... Betowi paid me the 500 usd. Still 1650 usd there...
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  3. 04-25-14 10:23 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Are those same players concerned when I eventually got stiffed by 18th? Fact of the matter is, many stated they received payouts on forums including myself. Considering their lines, bonuses, & documented payouts at the time, the risk was well worth the reward. I still profited 10x the stiff amount by utilizing them. For those who joined late, or chose not to profit from all the arbs/bonuses & lost money is unfortunate. The difference between me & others, pros comprehend the concept of risk/reward & don't cry about setbacks.
    Ok so u did also get stiffed by them? Which for so long u didn't say anything. Now that changes everything, see for all that time it seemed you were the only person who didn't get stiffed by them which raised so many flags.
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  4. 04-25-14 10:47 AM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by loniloni View Post
    Betowi is driving me crazy: they have deducted the money from my account 3 days ago but still they have not provided me with the p2p information. Each time I contact them they say "you'll have the information in an hour". Days have gone and still nothing. This payout is keeping on for 3 weeks now. SBR promised but they have not spoke with them. Definitely is lost money (I have a total of 2200 usd there). Hope no one more will deposit with this guys
    Doesn't a guy named Fred manage at Betowi ? He is a stand up guy, ask to speak to him.
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  5. 04-25-14 11:12 AM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    Ok so u did also get stiffed by them? Which for so long u didn't say anything. Now that changes everything, see for all that time it seemed you were the only person who didn't get stiffed by them which raised so many flags.
    If you search the 18th threads, I posted when it happened maybe 5 months ago. But it wasn't a blatant no pay theft like others are reporting, my account was compromised with $4,200 bet on a dog with +440 odds. Obviously the fraudulent bet lost & their investigation showed two other IP's accessing my account. I was only offered big reload compensation of 300%. I tend to believe they were behind it, just a different form of theft.
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  6. 04-29-14 02:06 PM #41
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    Received a Moneypak today, and my account has been closed for a year. So if they were going to stiff someone it would be me before someone with their account in good standing.
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  7. 04-29-14 04:09 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Received a Moneypak today, and my account has been closed for a year. So if they were going to stiff someone it would be me before someone with their account in good standing.
    Closed for a year? Usually when a book closes an account it's for life.

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  8. 04-29-14 05:47 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    Closed for a year? Usually when a book closes an account it's for life.

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    It is closed for life, I'm saying its been closed for over a year.
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  9. 05-07-14 10:36 AM #44
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    Guys. My "Via Crucis" at Betowi.com continous. my next 500 usd p2p created on 23 April is still pending and the site refuse to give me a time frame for this transaction... I have still almost 1700 usd there...
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  10. 05-12-14 12:30 AM #45
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    The old Wager Web guys always get their panties in a bunch when they get a little bad press.
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  11. 05-12-14 01:35 AM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by loniloni View Post
    Guys. My "Via Crucis" at Betowi.com continous. my next 500 usd p2p created on 23 April is still pending and the site refuse to give me a time frame for this transaction... I have still almost 1700 usd there...
    Wow. Just wow! Some people just aren't meant to run sportsbooks and betowi is one of them. I remember a year ago or so I deposited 100 bucks or so to try them out and I quickly ran it up to around 1100 or 1200. I sent them emails asking different questions about like the verification process and stuff like that. They never responded and I emailed them at least 3-4 x before blowing my bankroll. I would jump off a cliff before I ever gave these crooks anymore of my money. I will admit I have learned the hard way with many of these shifty books out there and I have also learned where my money needs to be deposited 99% of the time and that 5dimes, heritage, gtbets, you wager and DSI.
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  12. 05-12-14 06:46 PM #47
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    I requested a mid 3 figure payout using one of there MANY withdrawal methods. Will keep you guys posted on how long it takes.
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  13. 05-12-14 06:58 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by loniloni View Post
    Guys. My "Via Crucis" at Betowi.com continous. my next 500 usd p2p created on 23 April is still pending and the site refuse to give me a time frame for this transaction... I have still almost 1700 usd there...
    Just do it by grndot. They've paid me promptly for the past two weeks through that method. If you call them they will tell you they are having delays with P2P but no problem with moneypaks.
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  14. 05-13-14 09:50 AM #49
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    Betowi payout departament advised me to submit p2p requests. My withdrawal is pending from 22 of April, they just tell me on live chat to wait....
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  15. 05-16-14 10:35 AM #50
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    Guys, Betowi also blocked access to my account. Have a look at what they say on live chat...


    .... Hello Jamie

    jamie: hi how mayi help you
    .... my account is locked

    jamie: yes your account is closed for Wagering

    jamie: your balance will get sent to you
    ...ok

    ... That what I want too

    jamie: ok

    jamie: ok perfect we will be sending funds in the future to you via that method.
    ... in future, means?

    jamie: in the future I can not give an exact date

    .... I'm waiting almost a month for my withdrawal

    jamie: but your balance will get sent to you

    jamie: well unfortunately payments take a little longer when players play with us from outside the US

    .... I don't know what's the problem in the era of internet, of payapal and etc

    ....this is not normal
    jamie: its not normal for European sportsbooks

    .... iS NOT normal for no one

    ... you got the deposit instantly

    jamie: yes it is

    jamie: Bovada take 3 months to pay players

    ....: Ok, have a look to my thread on sportsbookreview.com what people say

    jamie: Did you say that no Latin America ** sends to ALbania ?

    .... that's not true. I have received several times from south america. And I have send the deposit to south america too
    jamie: may i give you a little advise please
    jamie: if you wish to take it , it is up to you

    jamie: it makes no difference what is said on SBR

    jamie: or on any forum

    jamie: for that matter

    .... I'm desperate to take my money, that's the reason I created it

    jamie: we will get your payment processed as soon as possible until then please remain patient

    jamie: the reason you created what the thread ?

    ... yes

    jamie: yes but that is not the right way to go about things

    .... I'll remove it when get paid

    jamie: but that's your deciosn

    jamie: it doesn't matter it is already done

    .... And I will submit this conversation too

    jamie: you cant go back and delete it

    ...: especially that bovada thing

    jamie: and it makes no difference ....
    .... No I can say that I got paid

    jamie: ok but all the negativity that was created by your thread remains

    jamie: Listen we are going around in circles

    jamie: i will speak to the people in the payments dept again and ensure they have your paypal information
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  16. 05-16-14 02:02 PM #51
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    it's official they are shady as hell.
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  17. 05-16-14 02:04 PM #52
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    I've been paid timely and friendly by this site 3 times since this thread was started, and my account has been closed forever.
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  18. 06-03-14 02:31 AM #53
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    Just to remember: I have not being paid by betowi.com since 22th of April. They owe me 1660 usd and they have closed my account, I have contacted other sites to help and the situation remain the same. they do not want to pay me. I have heard they paid some other guys...
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  19. 06-03-14 08:06 AM #54
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    Wow! Still not paid. SBR can you comment on this? I'd like to know if this no pay Is for real???
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  20. 06-03-14 10:09 AM #55
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    They advertise p2p payment within 48 hours, I think they fail on that alot.
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  21. 06-03-14 10:34 AM #56
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    I requested another payout on the 5/9 and have not been paid for that one yet as well. They still owe me $4500.
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  22. 06-03-14 02:57 PM #57
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    Why no comments by our watchdog?
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  23. 06-03-14 05:31 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Courtesywipe View Post
    Why no comments by our watchdog?
    i think they address submitted complaints and not anything posted here.
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  24. 06-03-14 10:07 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redondo View Post
    i think they address submitted complaints and not anything posted here.
    Gotcha. Thanks
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  25. 06-05-14 09:26 AM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Courtesywipe View Post
    Wow! Still not paid. SBR can you comment on this? I'd like to know if this no pay Is for real???
    Yes is a real "No Pay". I made a complaint on this site and did speak on live chat to SBR. They promised to talk to Betowi.com but never gave me a response. Strange!!!
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  26. 06-12-14 01:46 PM #61
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    Received payout today via MP.
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  27. 06-12-14 02:08 PM #62
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    Book was started with stolen funds.
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  28. 06-16-14 07:12 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Security27 View Post
    Book was started with stolen funds.
    That's simply not true.
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  29. 06-26-14 05:42 PM #64
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    anyone get paid from them lately ?
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  30. 06-27-14 02:59 AM #65
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    [QUOTE=DimSum;22141713]anyone get paid from them lately ?[/QUOTE

    If they did I'm sure it was only $500 tops as they don't pay large sums. Shady outfit.
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  31. 06-28-14 04:15 AM #66
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    I have received today the last payment from betowi.com. I received a total of 5 withdrawals of 500 usd each, 3 of them in the last 2 weeks. The thing went ahead for more than 3 months. Sorry to say (and because of this maybe they will close my account) but I didn't receive any help from SBR. Instead another forum made this possible. they pressed tirelessly betowi, till the owner in person decided to pay. Hope no one will have any such experience at Betowi or other books
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    Quote Originally Posted by loniloni View Post
    I have received today the last payment from betowi.com. I received a total of 5 withdrawals of 500 usd each, 3 of them in the last 2 weeks. The thing went ahead for more than 3 months. Sorry to say (and because of this maybe they will close my account) but I didn't receive any help from SBR. Instead another forum made this possible. they pressed tirelessly betowi, till the owner in person decided to pay. Hope no one will have any such experience at Betowi or other books
    $2500? It took you three months to get paid only $2500??? That's pretty sad. You must have really pissed them off...
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  33. 06-29-14 06:50 PM #68
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    just received my payout, took 6 days.
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  34. 06-29-14 09:36 PM #69
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    Nearly deposit only book.
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