If this guy starts one all it is is a complaint about how he got caught trying to scam a book end of story
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10-27-09 11:57 AM #1
Don't bother opening any BigWoolyMammoth thread
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10-27-09 04:11 PM #2
got caught trying to scam a book? reportinging scam outfits should be celebrated here.
you get mad cause this site gets paid by these thugs or you work for this shit sites.
its not trying to scam a book when you open a new account with all of your info- not hiding or changing info. maybe the book owns 3 or 4 other books, so they say you have 3 accounts, that happens all the time. but you dont take it into consideration, you just accuse the gambler- meaning you are already discredited. I dont care how many posts you have and who you are. you starting a topic against me for warning people about scams should make you throw up as you pose yourself to be helpful to the player in this industry.
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10-27-09 08:12 PM #3
I do not work for SBR
I have played at NUMEROUS sites over the past several years and have seldom ever had a complaint while you have 3 a month, guess who is doing something wrong ...... you not the book...... chargebacks, multi-accounting, bonus abusing..... all things that not only cost you but everyone who uses an online book, pricks like you are the reason books need us to send in our life story to make a withdrawal
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10-27-09 08:14 PM #4
Go cry to somebody else.
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10-27-09 08:16 PM #5
yeah topgame, pimike told ya exactly what i was thinking.
i have deposited more in a year then you have your whole gaming career.
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10-27-09 08:17 PM #6
You charged back more than I ever did also.
Originally Posted by BigWoolyMammoth
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10-27-09 08:19 PM #7
BigwoolyMamoth thread are Funny! I do not know why you hate him?
He just need yo use a A+ rated book and his life will be better. Do not use any other shitty Book. The greek or Legends will be cool!
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10-27-09 08:21 PM #8
you must not be reading his threads. He signs up at all sister books trying to get a new account so he can get larger bonuses. Then if he loses he does chargebacks on his ************ Originally Posted by acarmelo1
Points Awarded:
BigWoolyMammoth gave pimike 6 SBR Point(s) for this post.
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10-27-09 08:25 PM #9
how much either one of us bets is completely irrelevant as is whether I have more posts. All that matters is you start a million threads spamming the most important section on the site trying to extort books out of money with the threat of bad press and when they don't cave you post bull shit and charge back causing all in the industry trouble. This is just a warning to newcomers that your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.
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10-27-09 08:28 PM #10
no i dont- i dont ever look for bonuses! I mostly always turn them down.
you have read me wrong man. I like books that pay fast, so I rarely take the rollover unless it is less then 5 times. you really have read this wrong pike.
that is not the case. even justin can you tell you that. never had a bonus problem in my life. its the waiting to get paid period that was not told to me. All i was told at youwager was that it was 4.5 rollover. so that sounded cool. but when i sent money they told me that since i took the bonus i have to wait 30 god damn days to get money. i askd them a million questions and they never said shitabout a waiting period. that is the whole argument. i dont have bonus issues man. come on.
****!
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10-27-09 08:30 PM #11
It su#ks when CS reps lie to you.
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10-27-09 08:30 PM #12
sorry you feel that way topgame. I only reported 3 problems.
SIA which was disgusting , but oh well lesson learned. youwager which i dont even know what to say to make you guys understand the issue, and wagerweb, which is irrelevant book.
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10-27-09 08:47 PM #13
I unnderstand your issues but here are my main issues:
Charge backs: never acceptable because of the damage it does to other players
Failure to read T&C: before even thinking of using an online book this is #1 on the list
Double reviews of books: bashing then praising then bashing wager web, either they are a good book or not don't use the forum posts as leverage to get your way at a book
lack of using A+ books: Why not just use betjamaica, greek, phoenix etc? you won't have issues if you just use the industry leaders and read T&C
other than that you are fine the problem is that all your complaints are in a "grey area" it seems like you push your luck and then try to use bad press to force books into a corner of pay me or I'll complain and harass nonstop....... I think that is a bad way to go about things and have dealt with plenty of "threats" of people trying to force you into a corner and no one should negotiate with "terrorists" as it were
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10-27-09 08:54 PM #14
makes sense. you make a lot of sense.
are chargebacks necessary if a book bullshits you to get your money whether you wagered it lost it, or not? if a book feels they have been scammed, they will take your winning games and just send your money back to you, so why should they be able to **** the player but when its their fault they cant get ****ed? i realize it makes it harder on others and that sucks. i hate that. but once youwager lied, and listened to their sales reps hour long conversation with me and the quesitons i asked them, all games, all casino all bullshit should have been null in void and returned if that is what the customer requested. just my thoughts. they lied, so they shouldnt be allowed to take deposits based on bullshit lies.
as for wagerweb. the owner asked if i would say they were right. the owner said i would get a free play and open my account back up. so i said it and i didnt get that free play. either way, they were correct on the issue, I was mad cause dan didnt keep his word, but **** it. who cares about a free play. I am using an A book right now and got my 1st withdrawel today. very classy book. I will post and praise after my 3rd withdrawel to make sure...not even going to talk about them. but so far, they are right on time, very polite and caring. a rarity in the biz.
thanks for handling this the way you did. I dont mind admitting faults and moving forward., I just wish youwager had the balls to do the right thing. the tapes are all the evidence they need.
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10-28-09 01:57 AM #15
BigWoolyMammoth shows how 10% of the customers create 90% of the problems
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10-28-09 08:00 AM #16
no idiot, the books cause the problems, the player just fixes them his way and unfortunetly the only was is to hurt the industry, but if any of you were ripped off like I was, I would hope you would get your money back.
so your wrong jackass. did you join just to say that? another youwager employee.
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10-28-09 08:49 AM #17
1%/99% imo. Originally Posted by Peregrine Stoop
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10-28-09 09:29 AM #18
the only way you say that is if you work for a book.
if you are a gambler and you get screwed, your suppose to do nothing?
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10-29-09 08:56 AM #19
some complaints seem so far out of the norm, Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW
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10-29-09 01:51 PM #20
T-mobile/Verizon/AT&T all did a review on their support calls and discovered at 84% of their calls came from 4% of their customer base. AT&T has taken the bottom 2% on that list (the most complaining customers) and have offered them full refunds on their phones, free termination of their service, and basically has told them that they do not want to do business with them anymore.
The amount of goodwill from a service-based industry has a finite price, and when that price is exceeded, companies are starting to tell customers, sorry, but you are too expensive to maintain.
Books should have the same model. Guys who do chargebacks, rather than arbitraiting through SBR and accepting that decision are the bottom 2%, and should be excluded from doing business.
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10-29-09 04:41 PM #21
BigWhollyChargeback shall be his new name.
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10-29-09 05:06 PM #22
I'm sure he appropriates you creating a new venue for him to vent...
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10-29-09 05:16 PM #23
we don't live in a world where the customer is always right anymore.. that shit works in fast food.. but not in the real world.. I refuse to bend over backwards for a client that doesn't care or is disrespectful Originally Posted by mtneer1212
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10-30-09 08:53 AM #24
why should sbr be the final say? thats bullshit. if a book ****s you that is paying sbr or osga then they wont side with you anyway so that statemtent is bullshit.
if a book has too many chargebacks, maybe THEY shouldnt be in business.
i think its safe to say that there are plenty of books screwing people over. why dont we monitor THAT shit? its like a police man handing out seatbelt tickets in the post office parking lot.....why is he not out catching kid fu ckers?? youwager screwed me, lied and still got paid. sia same thing. they didnt even get a slap on the wrist.
so you guys can get on me for doing a ********** 4 years ago to them, i am sure you wouldnt have let justin determine how if the book pays you or not. jesus christ. you guys are funny.
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10-30-09 08:54 AM #25
and robpink you are such a god damn nerd. you are not funny and your posts are weak.
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10-30-09 09:49 AM #26
I know you can reward points for good posts, but is there a way to debit points for mindless banter?
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10-30-09 02:53 PM #27
it doesn't even work in fast food Originally Posted by kmarinouofm
my brother manages a fast food establishment... you should hear his war stories
customers can be real a-holes
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10-30-09 03:29 PM #28
How many chargebacks did you have at WagerWeb? Maybe 2 or 3? What was your big problem about not getting paid on time on the Giants over? Gee, you bet the game with a freeplay and you threw a hissy fit that you couldn't do a conditional wager. You wanted them to grade a freeplay when the game wasn't over. Get f'in help man. Originally Posted by BigWoolyMammoth
You make threats about chargebacks and ** fraud. After reading half of your posts, I would bet my left testicle you are ****ing bipolar.
You make deposits, get a reload with a high rollover, bitch about the rollover, have your bonus removed at your request, lose your cash deposit, beg for the reload bonus that you originally bitched about, win some money with the originally revoked reload bonus that you verbally had to suck dick to get back, then complain about the rollover of the originally revoked bonus at your request.
What this all translats to............ YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS TOOL.Last edited by robmpink; 10-30-09 at 04:02 PM.
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10-30-09 03:32 PM #29
Your wife claims fraud, you have 10 accounts at the same book, you think that blowing unwarranted smoke at the forums will make books bow down to you. You really are a mental midget with this approach.
I wonder how many chargebacks you have done in your life? Maybe 20 or so? How many did your "wife" do?
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10-30-09 03:35 PM #30
Lastly, you take the cake due to getting kicked out of a rec book where you consistantly lost.
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10-30-09 04:34 PM #31
Surprised this thread and others involving Big Wooley are allowed in S & I. Any Mods policing this forum?
Last edited by HedgeHog; 10-30-09 at 05:24 PM.
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10-30-09 06:53 PM #32
10 accounts and chargebacks? hmmm... we created another SIA account because they told us too. I deposited MY credit card, did you read that dumbass? MY credit card under her account. address, last name etc... all that was the same. not like we signed up under a different one or a maiden name. DID YOU READ THAT? 10 accounts? do you say things like that on here to try and look correct? you are defensive when you look stupid. you should work on that.
how many chargebacks have I done? I have done 1. if I did a ********** to wagerweb, then how was I a customer up until I pointed out their bullshit?
PLEASE ANSWER THAT FOR EVERYONE IN HERE. YOU SAID I CHARGED BACK TO WAGERWEB, YET I WAS A CUSTOMER FOR THE PAST 5 MONTHS. hmmm..
do you give up yet or do you wanna keep making up shit robpuss? ya see rob ya shouldnt. lying about people and trying to act like a badass is not smart. you are a joke. but keep on makin stuff up....
Originally Posted by robmpink
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10-30-09 06:57 PM #33
kicked out of a rec book??? where I lost??? some more stuff to make up.
I never planned on sending wagerweb any more money after he pulled his stunt here with justin. acting to justin like he respected him but then telling me sbr was a joke.
lost to wagerweb? who told you I was down to wagerweb? another lie. you are a shitty story teller. why do you think nobody comments after your false crap? you are a loser and it keeps getting better. 
Originally Posted by robmpink
Lastly, you take the cake due to getting kicked out of a rec book where you consistantly lost.
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10-31-09 08:00 AM #34
The only loser is you and you got kicked out of a rec book. Can you be anymore pathetic? Originally Posted by BigWoolyMammoth
kicked out of a rec book??? where I lost??? some more stuff to make up.
I never planned on sending wagerweb any more money after he pulled his stunt here with justin. acting to justin like he respected him but then telling me sbr was a joke. lost to wagerweb? who told you I was down to wagerweb? another lie. you are a shitty story teller. why do you think nobody comments after your false crap? you are a loser and it keeps getting better.
Books open their arms to losing players. It is just kinda funny that you got kicked out when you are a loser.
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10-31-09 10:44 AM #35
kicked out of where?
I am up on wagerweb and left when they lied.
where do you get such stories? pathetic? you are off the charts pathetic.
I am flattered by this hard on you have for me.
if you ever care to pm me back and possibly get together to work this out, I would be up for it. until then. I guess you will remain an online piece of trash trying to stick up for a book that you work for.
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