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    Thegreek SUX, must read

    Top tier book, but they have a 4 time rollover when doing a book to book transfer to them. 4 time rollover. That means I have to wager- $16,000 to get my $4,000 out. How is that even possible? Why stop at 4, why not 8? Guess what folks? All these books sux, every one. Thegreek just suxs the least. If your new at this, GET OUT NOW. Bet $50 on Sunday w a local and call it a day. I got ****ed by Bodog, than sportsbook.com, now it's BM and thegreek. Refer to my other post F**ed by Bookmaker for more details. If you have common sense you will understand, if you have no common sense you'll tell me that those are the rules.

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    is there any fee you can pay so they let you take your money out without making the rollover?

    like 5% fee or something like that

    is better than losing all your money

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    I think you are going to have a hard time getting sympathy when you can't read the rules.

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    i agree with you on bookmakers part but The Greek does not suck.

    they are not a transfer system its bookmaker that ****ed you not the greek.

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    Comingback,

    I had to work through a $320k rollover at Greek for a transfer. It's just part of the business.

    If you're betting enough that it makes sense to transfer instead of cash in/cash out, you need to be aware of the rules before doing it. TheGreek is very good at payout processing, and they don't want people just transferring money to them so they can immediately cash out.

    If you want to churn through your rollover, focus on props, teasers and steam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWEETS View Post
    I think you are going to have a hard time getting sympathy when you can't read the rules.
    I'm not looking for sympathy pal. Sympathy is not going to get my $$$ back. I'm sharing my experience and doing a little venting. Hopefully, I'm helping out a "new online gambler as well." If you don't understand why I'm pissed, you obviously don't have common sense. I'm not trying to be confrontational, but it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coming Back! View Post
    I'm not looking for sympathy pal. Sympathy is not going to get my $$$ back. I'm sharing my experience and doing a little venting. Hopefully, I'm helping out a "new online gambler as well." If you don't understand why I'm pissed, you obviously don't have common sense. I'm not trying to be confrontational, but it's true.
    I understand why you are pissed, you obviously still don't have your money. But I don't see the sense in making a thread about the Greek sucking when you transfered money there and they were willing to transfer the money back to BM free of charge. They are a sportsbook not a payment processor, that is why the 4x rollover is in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Comingback,

    I had to work through a $320k rollover at Greek for a transfer. It's just part of the business.

    If you're betting enough that it makes sense to transfer instead of cash in/cash out, you need to be aware of the rules before doing it. TheGreek is very good at payout processing, and they don't want people just transferring money to them so they can immediately cash out.

    If you want to churn through your rollover, focus on props, teasers and steam.
    I hear you Justin. I just never thought there would be such a rollover requirement at thegreek. Didn't even occur to me. However, I'm disgusted with bookmaker and closed my account there. Honestly, it's bullshit. Thegreek has a $2,000 minimum for bank wires and a $9,900 max for checks. That's A plus, not BM. Sorry bro, it's just not

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    I don't understand why you are pissed, and I have been gambling for 50 years.

    You knew going in what their rules were for accepting a book to book no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peep View Post
    I don't understand why you are pissed, and I have been gambling for 50 years.

    You knew going in what their rules were for accepting a book to book no?
    I wish I did bro, I wish I did. I never would of done it

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    Sorry about the trouble, CB and hope in the end that everything works out well for you.

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Sorry about the trouble, CB and hope in the end that everything works out well for you.

    Best
    Thank you sir. Now that I'm calm, I realize this is partly my fault. I should of researched book to book transfers. But let's face it. A scam is a scam. BM can't be top tier if they can't payout between 3,000 thru 5,000. There's no reason for it!! If thegreek can payout and do bankwires for $2,000 minimum and payout checks up to $9,900 then why can't they. Because it's a scam, end of story! I learned the hard way and closed my bookmaker account.

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    yeah.. its a scam.. lmao.... give me a damn break.


    if the greek had 1x rollover on transfers, then people would just be transferring there balance to the greek from other books when its time to cash out, and therefore the great processing times will be done because they'd essentially be just a bank for other books.

    In most cases like this, its the player who sucks, not the book. Read the rules and have common sense. You want fast withdrawal processing times? This is the price to pay. If you had to wait a week for a check, you;d be complaining about that too..... jesus christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    yeah.. its a scam.. lmao.... give me a damn break.


    if the greek had 1x rollover on transfers, then people would just be transferring there balance to the greek from other books when its time to cash out, and therefore the great processing times will be done because they'd essentially be just a bank for other books.

    In most cases like this, its the player who sucks, not the book. Read the rules and have common sense. You want fast withdrawal processing times? This is the price to pay. If you had to wait a week for a check, you;d be complaining about that too..... jesus christ
    This is exactly what was happening a year ago. Thus the changed policy to 4x.

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    Anyways, if you like betting, I think you have to like the Greek. They and Pinny are my favorite two books by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    yeah.. its a scam.. lmao.... give me a damn break.


    if the greek had 1x rollover on transfers, then people would just be transferring there balance to the greek from other books when its time to cash out, and therefore the great processing times will be done because they'd essentially be just a bank for other books.

    In most cases like this, its the player who sucks, not the book. Read the rules and have common sense. You want fast withdrawal processing times? This is the price to pay. If you had to wait a week for a check, you;d be complaining about that too..... jesus christ
    I made a huge mistake by not researching rollover requirements. However, Bookmkaer should payout amounts between $3,000 and $5,000. And when I explain the situation to BM, and they tell me that if I do a book to book back to BM, that I need to meet a rollover requirement with them. That's BS. This is what BM SHOULD SAY to me: "Sir, we reviewed your account and see that your a solid client. We will make this exception for you this one time and value your business." I'd say wow, post great things about them and probably lose the money within the month. Instead, my account is closed. Great business. Life isn't black and white bro. There is a gray area. If everybody did everything exactly by the book, forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coming Back! View Post
    I made a huge mistake by not researching rollover requirements. However, Bookmkaer should payout amounts between $3,000 and $5,000. And when I explain the situation to BM, and they tell me that if I do a book to book back to BM, that I need to meet a rollover requirement with them. That's BS. This is what BM SHOULD SAY to me: "Sir, we reviewed your account and see that your a solid client. We will make this exception for you this one time and value your business." I'd say wow, post great things about them and probably lose the money within the month. Instead, my account is closed. Great business. Life isn't black and white bro. There is a gray area. If everybody did everything exactly by the book, forget it.
    Agree, they should value your business, if I was the Manager I will go the extra mile to make happy such a good costumer.

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    Bookmaker employees aren't very bright.

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    CB, what status did you have with Bookmaker for your bet points? Gold or platinum? I believe platinum gets two free payouts per month. That way you should be able to get your money out within a month. Otherwise, I would wait out that one month and get another free payout. It doesn't make sense to pay the book to book transfer fee to Bookmaker and do the 4x rollover at the Greek. You might as well wait it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    Bookmaker employees aren't very bright.
    Thanks Durito, I'm not saying I didn't screw up, but if you read my posts I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyz View Post
    CB, what status did you have with Bookmaker for your bet points? Gold or platinum? I believe platinum gets two free payouts per month. That way you should be able to get your money out within a month. Otherwise, I would wait out that one month and get another free payout. It doesn't make sense to pay the book to book transfer fee to Bookmaker and do the 4x rollover at the Greek. You might as well wait it out.
    Absolutely, but it's to late now. I was platinum, now I'm nothing bc I closed my account. If your interested in the whole story, you could read my post- Fu**ed by Bookmaker

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    you are right about bookmaker fu*k them.... but the greek is one of the best around books around them and betjam the are the very best ............. and good luck with your problem...

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    You handled this all wrong with BM. Gotta say it's partly your fault IMHO.

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    The GREek rocks man, why dis a good book, theres not that many around these days.

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    I am sure somebody already mentioned it but I will do it again... YOU should have called them and ask before you make a huge transfer like that. thegreek is one of the BEST. It's not like they don't have $4000 to pay you and that's why they have 4x rollover requirment. If you roll it over 4x and say your balance is over 10k after rollover requirement, you will get paid 100% in less than a week. So please don't come here and talk such a BS about great book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegePro View Post
    I am sure somebody already mentioned it but I will do it again... YOU should have called them and ask before you make a huge transfer like that. thegreek is one of the BEST. It's not like they don't have $4000 to pay you and that's why they have 4x rollover requirment. If you roll it over 4x and say your balance is over 10k after rollover requirement, you will get paid 100% in less than a week. So please don't come here and talk such a BS about great book.
    I calmed down and realize it's not thegreeks fault. I should of researched the rollover requirement. But, if anybody read my Fu**ed by Bookmaker thread thinks I handled it wrong with BM, I completely disagree. I didn't handle it wrong. I lost my balls at that place. They could waive a rollover requirement one time for a solid customer. It's bad business and they're losing all my action. That's a significant amount of money. They don't need me, but I don't need them either. That's what Vegas understands. There gonna get your money anyway, but at least they make you feel important when they do. Not, sorry- no exceptions. I'm not gonna say what I do for a living, all i'm gonna say is there are always exceptions in every business and in every field.

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    You're right, they won't miss you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coming Back! View Post
    I calmed down and realize it's not thegreeks fault. I should of researched the rollover requirement. But, if anybody read my Fu**ed by Bookmaker thread thinks I handled it wrong with BM, I completely disagree. I didn't handle it wrong. I lost my balls at that place. They could waive a rollover requirement one time for a solid customer. It's bad business and they're losing all my action. That's a significant amount of money. They don't need me, but I don't need them either. That's what Vegas understands. There gonna get your money anyway, but at least they make you feel important when they do. Not, sorry- no exceptions. I'm not gonna say what I do for a living, all i'm gonna say is there are always exceptions in every business and in every field.
    I don't know about you...but for me if I was the business owner, I will strictly follow my rules and policies. because once you give a person exception, sooner or later other people will start calling them with same problem and they will have to make more exceptions. That's just me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soxwin1917 View Post
    You're right, they won't miss you.
    Real contribution! Great post

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    F%#K bookmaker
    IF I was the manager I would have given you the payout without the 1x rollover!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegePro View Post
    I don't know about you...but for me if I was the business owner, I will strictly follow my rules and policies. because once you give a person exception, sooner or later other people will start calling them with same problem and they will have to make more exceptions. That's just me though.
    I was asking for an exception for a 1 time rollover. It's not a big deal. I don't think phones are gonna be ringing off the hook at bookmaker, once players find out I got a book to book transfer without a rollover. Why would anyone do a book to book to BM anyway right now? They're bouncing checks, checks are all over the place, players are getting tracking numbers from Singapore or some shit, and they don't even payout between $3000- $5000.

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    Let's have JJ Gold give them a call - I think that rollover will start getting reduced quickly

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    Just roll it over

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    Icy win

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    ComingBack,

    You do an awful lot of complaining and expect all the books to make exceptions just for you.

    When they don't, you trash them.

    If you're a serious player, then satisfying 4X rollovers is not very difficult.

    If you don't like the idea of having to rollover your money, then DON'T DO BOOK-TO-BOOK TRANSFERS.

    As far as Greek is concerned, their withdrawal limits are higher than any other book and if you request your check via courier, you have it within 2 days and sometimes even the very next day.

    The Greek is the best book in the industry.

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