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    Ladbrokes Sucks

    I've deposited $2000 into this book, my account is now about $1500. I have not made a withdrawal and now they limited my max wager to $50. I questioned them as to the reason why since I'm down almost $500 and this is the response.

    Thank you for your e-mail regarding your account.

    I am sorry to learn of your frustration in placing bets. We can confirm that you are currently limited on any given event.

    This has been applied to your account as a result of some of the business you have placed with us on your accounts.

    We can assure you we do wish to attract customers to our service whether they win or lose.

    We do though have a responsibility to run the business profitably and therefore we do restrict certain customers and certain bets.

    We do regularly review the stake factors on accounts in line with the business patterns of our customers and we may look to alter the factor in the future.

    Whilst I appreciate your obvious frustration, the reduction in your stake factor is due to a well-meaning attempt to monitor our liabilities transactions placed across the various markets we offer. This provides a fair opportunity to all our customers who use the various betting channels.

    May we advise, in an attempt to accommodate your intended stake unit, that you place your bets via our Telephone Betting Service on 0800 777 888 or +44 208 429 7971 (from outside the UK) or +800 8000 2828/4848 (if dialling from Singapore) and quoting your username.

    Please note that we cannot guarantee your bet will be accepted. Our traders periodically review all accounts that have been restricted. Regrettably we are unable to override any decision that has been made

    If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us again and we will be more than happy to help you.

    Yours sincerely,

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    How can these guys be rated A ???? They take wagers and won't let you win it back? I'm so confused... Stay away.

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    This guys are sheit sbr

    I was limited after 10 bets, betting 400 a play


    2 of my friends, who also are sports minded limited too.....in under a month

    their a joke,

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    was prolly the 2k deposit...lads have tightend their belts big time i have found in the last year.....and if you had a few wagers and still had 1500 left they might be wondering why put 2k if your not going to use it.....prolly thinking your waiting for a divison 3 youth bulgarian game to go inplay and pound the life outta it or something.....no surprise here though as i said i have found them to be very poor of recent...all the best my man hopefully you can pound their 50 limit and get your money back

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    do you have to roll the deposit at least once before you withdraw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allin1 View Post
    do you have to roll the deposit at least once before you withdraw?

    nah he could take it out right now if he wanted to......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    was prolly the 2k deposit...lads have tightend their belts big time i have found in the last year.....and if you had a few wagers and still had 1500 left they might be wondering why put 2k if your not going to use it.....prolly thinking your waiting for a divison 3 youth bulgarian game to go inplay and pound the life outta it or something.....no surprise here though as i said i have found them to be very poor of recent...all the best my man hopefully you can pound their 50 limit and get your money back
    zzz books always want players to keep money in the book. They only worry if you withdraw, they dont lose sleep over people taking money out of their bank and put it into their sportsbook....Stupid comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    was prolly the 2k deposit...lads have tightend their belts big time i have found in the last year.....and if you had a few wagers and still had 1500 left they might be wondering why put 2k if your not going to use it.....prolly thinking your waiting for a divison 3 youth bulgarian game to go inplay and pound the life outta it or something.....no surprise here though as i said i have found them to be very poor of recent...all the best my man hopefully you can pound their 50 limit and get your money back
    Total crap. Sucks the limited you so fast, probably something in your betting patterns or as they mentioned in their email to you - you have multiple accounts and have been claiming bonuses or something.

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    PS - Just because you are limited for internet betting, doesn't mean you can't call up and place much larger bets.

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    I was limit to $10 or less just after 1 ufc event! It strange this sh!ty site Ladbrokes can't make $$$ when their juice is way higher than 5dimes or pinnacle.

    If you are a Ladbrokes customer, transfer your fund to 5dimes or Pinnacle. Juice is way lower and you don't have to worry about being limit after just 1 semi-big score!

    Die Unibet & Ladbrokes
    Last edited by GigaOuts; 08-06-13 at 08:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyson895 View Post


    We do though have a responsibility to run the business profitably....
    If they are running a bakery or a bookstore I can respect this statement.

    They are far, far from these types of businesses.

    They are challenging others that their measurements of probabillities on the outcome of sports events is better than the players.

    Their advantage is that they can add 10-20% or more juice to their probabilities.
    The players advantage is that they can choose from many opportunities.

    It's not a bakery, and it's not a bookstore. It's a competition, and if they can't compete with all that juice, they need to go away. Limiting is never an acceptable way out, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoregoal View Post
    zzz books always want players to keep money in the book. They only worry if you withdraw, they dont lose sleep over people taking money out of their bank and put it into their sportsbook....Stupid comment.
    wow you are thick dude.....no s h i t they want you to pump money into their site, my point is ladbrokes arent just going to sit back like pinnacle or asians might and let you pound lines with 2k....my point was that they have become more of a recreational place they arent going to let you win exuberant amounts and by pumping 2k in they are thinking your piling up for something sharp.....as mentioned they have tightened their belts big time

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    was prolly the 2k deposit...lads have tightend their belts big time i have found in the last year.....and if you had a few wagers and still had 1500 left they might be wondering why put 2k if your not going to use it.....prolly thinking your waiting for a divison 3 youth bulgarian game to go inplay and pound the life outta it or something.....no surprise here though as i said i have found them to be very poor of recent...all the best my man hopefully you can pound their 50 limit and get your money back
    Thats your own quote. Its very clear that your opinion is that Ladborkes are worried someone has 1.5k in their account and not using it, this is nonsense. Then you backtracked, called me "thick" and that Ladbrokes encourage people to "pump" money into their book.
    Actually, just from the way you type I can tell that your opinion is worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoregoal View Post
    Thats your own quote. Its very clear that your opinion is that Ladborkes are worried someone has 1.5k in their account and not using it, this is nonsense. Then you backtracked, called me "thick" and that Ladbrokes encourage people to "pump" money into their book.
    Actually, just from the way you type I can tell that your opinion is worthless.
    are you serious dude? so you dont think it looks a bit suspect to deposit 2k and only go through 500 of it?? why not just deposit 500?? you definitely are thick to think a bookmaker wont have the same suspicion that i have about this.....who puts 2k in if they arent going to use it.......not sure if the OP was going to hit something later on with all the funds but definitely looks like he was going to play something sharp and again as i mentioned lads are cutting down on these types of accounts big time so doesn't surprise me in the slightest.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    are you serious dude? so you dont think it looks a bit suspect to deposit 2k and only go through 500 of it?? why not just deposit 500?? you definitely are thick to think a bookmaker wont have the same suspicion that i have about this.....who puts 2k in if they arent going to use it.......not sure if the OP was going to hit something later on with all the funds but definitely looks like he was going to play something sharp and again as i mentioned lads are cutting down on these types of accounts big time so doesn't surprise me in the slightest.......
    Are you trolling? You must be right?

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    No its not suspicious, plenty of people deposit x amount to cover bets over a certain amount of time, maybe the EPL campaign kicking off will attract similar large deposits.
    Also the OP stated he depositing 2k and now has 1.5k, that doesnt necessary mean he only played 500(though its probable). Maybe he lost 1.6k then won some back - we dont have his bet history here.

    Also he wanted to keep playing but was stopped because of limits, he didnt want to withdraw and theres no indication he wanted to leave 1.5k dormant in his account - he wanted to keep playing.

    Ladbrokes have for the most part always been a recreational book, but 1k bets can still be recreational - it really depends on what you are betting on.

    Im bored now, please have a little think before you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennisProFrance View Post
    Are you trolling? You must be right?
    nah not at all dont mean to come accross as a prick or nothing just saying you cant be serious thinking a book isnt going to put a restriction on your account when you deposit 2k and only use 500 your obviously waiting for a fixed games or something like that.......dont know why anyone would deposit more than they are going to use.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    nah not at all dont mean to come accross as a prick or nothing just saying you cant be serious thinking a book isnt going to put a restriction on your account when you deposit 2k and only use 500 your obviously waiting for a fixed games or something like that.......dont know why anyone would deposit more than they are going to use.....
    No credible match fixer or any of their pawns would leave money in a fukking sportsbook, waiting... and waiting.. and waiting when theres a good chance their account is flagged anyway and could be terminated at any point. The risk is pointless when they can just deposit in a timely manner.
    Jesus, just please stop talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoregoal View Post
    No credible match fixer or any of their pawns would leave money in a fukking sportsbook, waiting... and waiting.. and waiting when theres a good chance their account is flagged anyway and could be terminated at any point. The risk is pointless when they can just deposit in a timely manner.
    Jesus, just please stop talking.
    you havent got a clue how bookmakers manage risk and customer profiling, your clearly just a punter --you'd be surprised how many ppl load their accounts and wait. Especially if your using someone elses account you need the funds inplace well in advance.

    ladbrokes are limiting their liabilities the way any major book would.

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    He hasnt done that you moron. he wanted to keep playing.
    I literally give up - you are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoregoal View Post
    He hasnt done that you moron. he wanted to keep playing.
    I literally give up - you are an idiot.
    like you said we dont know his story or bet history. My point is you said a book maker wont restrict on deposit i am telling you i KNOW they will.

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    Most of these UK books are just good for $20 type bettors and or horses

    They so not want big bettors

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    like you said we dont know his story or bet history. My point is you said a book maker wont restrict on deposit i am telling you i KNOW they will.
    Restricting on deposit? who mentioned that, you keep twisting things - eventually 1% of what you have to say is correct.
    I said match fixers wont keep their money on ladbrokes, hoping they will get some value on their 3 digit maximums, if they know a match is fixed they play on the asian books. OR they will deposit at will, if they suddenly have the urge to randomly play their fixed game with Ladbrokes. Key example is the champions league game currently on - Skenderbeau Korca is now only available in play on the asian books............ not ladbrokes.

    You are generalising things (in the hope you regain some dignity/respect) and not talking about the case on this thread.

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    Threads like this just show the lack of understanding of how bookmakers operate. They want to make a profit. If you bet on their value lines, whether its £1 or £10000 they won't want your custom. Same as any business really, they want to sell you stuff that makes them the most money. Bookies like a balanced book, their juice allows that, sometimes they price a line up wrong and get caught out, sometimes they do it deliberate to find accounts that are sharp. Even worse are these arb services, you could genuinely have found a decent price, only for it to appear on some arb service where 50 other people pile in, flagging your account as an arber too. Bottom line, if you want to keep your accounts open, only take lines at or below market value (betfair is a good comparison). I get my edge from bonuses and offers rather than odds, most of my 400 odd accounts are still going strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennisProFrance View Post
    Total crap. Sucks the limited you so fast, probably something in your betting patterns or as they mentioned in their email to you - you have multiple accounts and have been claiming bonuses or something.
    I don't have multiple accounts with them. I did play some live betting the last few weeks. Only bonus was when I signed up 2 years ago. They had a promotion for Canadians and if you deposit $250, you get $100 bonus.
    I lost about $2000 back then with Ladbrokes and never used the account until about 6 weeks ago. I've never made a withdrawal. Now they are making me jump threw hoops to get what is left. I've sent them all the info 3 times by email and they keep telling me they did not get it. They have no upload option. Only way to withdrawal is by bank transfer is what they told me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    nah he could take it out right now if he wanted to......
    Yes no roll over, but having a hell of a time getting it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennisProFrance View Post
    PS - Just because you are limited for internet betting, doesn't mean you can't call up and place much larger bets.
    They said "NO". Limit is set by the "linesmaker". Whatever that means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GigaOuts View Post
    I was limit to $10 or less just after 1 ufc event! It strange this sh!ty site Ladbrokes can't make $$$ when their juice is way higher than 5dimes or pinnacle.

    If you are a Ladbrokes customer, transfer your fund to 5dimes or Pinnacle. Juice is way lower and you don't have to worry about being limit after just 1 semi-big score!

    Die Unibet & Ladbrokes
    Yes you are correct. They can go "die".
    I have a pinny account. Just wanted a another account to shop for better lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandeleigh View Post
    If they are running a bakery or a bookstore I can respect this statement.

    They are far, far from these types of businesses.

    They are challenging others that their measurements of probabillities on the outcome of sports events is better than the players.

    Their advantage is that they can add 10-20% or more juice to their probabilities.
    The players advantage is that they can choose from many opportunities.

    It's not a bakery, and it's not a bookstore. It's a competition, and if they can't compete with all that juice, they need to go away. Limiting is never an acceptable way out, imho.
    Great statement. I totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    are you serious dude? so you dont think it looks a bit suspect to deposit 2k and only go through 500 of it?? why not just deposit 500?? you definitely are thick to think a bookmaker wont have the same suspicion that i have about this.....who puts 2k in if they arent going to use it.......not sure if the OP was going to hit something later on with all the funds but definitely looks like he was going to play something sharp and again as i mentioned lads are cutting down on these types of accounts big time so doesn't surprise me in the slightest.......
    I deposited $500 early July, and lost it. Then deposited $1000, and lost it. Then I deposited $500 and ran it up to $1500. Now they limited me. As well I'm having to jump through hoops to get it out. I just received an email from them saying they now need the front and back of my CC. I told them yesterday I didn't use a CC to deposit and that my deposits were made with insta deb it. What the fawk....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigballa View Post
    nah not at all dont mean to come accross as a prick or nothing just saying you cant be serious thinking a book isnt going to put a restriction on your account when you deposit 2k and only use 500 your obviously waiting for a fixed games or something like that.......dont know why anyone would deposit more than they are going to use.....
    It was a total of $2000 deposited over the last 6 weeks or so, 3 seperate deposits. I just kept losing then I deposited more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoregoal View Post
    He hasnt done that you moron. he wanted to keep playing.
    I literally give up - you are an idiot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo747 View Post
    Threads like this just show the lack of understanding of how bookmakers operate. They want to make a profit. If you bet on their value lines, whether its £1 or £10000 they won't want your custom. Same as any business really, they want to sell you stuff that makes them the most money. Bookies like a balanced book, their juice allows that, sometimes they price a line up wrong and get caught out, sometimes they do it deliberate to find accounts that are sharp. Even worse are these arb services, you could genuinely have found a decent price, only for it to appear on some arb service where 50 other people pile in, flagging your account as an arber too. Bottom line, if you want to keep your accounts open, only take lines at or below market value (betfair is a good comparison). I get my edge from bonuses and offers rather than odds, most of my 400 odd accounts are still going strong.
    No shit bro. Of course they want to make a profit. So do I. I don't gamble to lose. All I'm saying is that I've deposited at total of $2000 over the last 6 weeks, never made a withdrawal, I have $1500 left in the account and now they limited me. Just wanted to warn people before they put money in the crap hole. Seems they are happy with taking $500 from me and now don't want my action. I also lost about $2000 with them when I opened this account 2 years ago, so I guess they've actually taken a total of $2500.

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    If Ladbrokes & Unibet keep customers without limit them, does that means they think all their customer is a bunch of 'loser'? seems like it!

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    I guess so.

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