[kaliboyz]

JON, do you mind to answer my questions below? (BTJ already did his part couple posts ago) did you even read my post JON? or you just ignore it? i want to clear this thing between Betislands and BTJ, we'll know who's right and who's wrong very soon!!

1) If you called a customer and told them about the bonus then you have to honor it regardless he's win or lose with his deposited money, right? YES OR NO

2) You trying so hard to please all of your customers on SBR but why don't you please BEAN TOWN too so you can be perfect?

3) Why losing a customer like BeanTown for a 15% bonus?

4) Whoever signed with your book after the Dimeline Bonus expired or any perks expired then they can't receive dimeline or any perks, but whoever with you from the begining then you should let them have the same perks ( i called this is a "grandfather" account). Remember one thing, we're the one that helped you build this book, our comments on sbr that helped you to get to the B+. Why taking it away?

Thank you JON. Cheer!

after read all these posts, i think 50/50 .
BTJ: if they didn't give you the 15% bonus then just withdraw and walk away to a new book, why trashing? after read all your posts i can see that all your statements are not meant to warn people but you want nobody else to plays at this book ever again. My question is why? why you hate BI that much? it gotta be something else...because of what Jon said? Because of what Nick said? Or Mia said? or because you lost all your $$ that you deposited and now you want to fight for that 15% bonus and turn that bonus into 5K ? i think you know that BI pays and pays quicker that's why you tried to collect that bonus and continue to play there but they didn't honor the bonus so that make you mad ,huh? If you already think (or experienced from all other books) that BI took away their perks and going invite only then they'll bankrupt then why you still deposited at the beginning? (i believe Jon announced his book going invites only a long time ago). So all your experiences are just "guessing", maybe happens maybe not. But this case is not clear so i just want to say thanks to you for alerting us about our money is not safe and thank you for practicing your freedom of speech.

Bet Islands (Jon): i know your book pays quick. You gave out to alot of people on here many bonuses (included me) because you want to keep us so that's why you made a deal with anybody on any different circumstances and you never want to lose us, but why losing BTJ for only 15% of $800, why? because your book is low on cash? you offered alot of good stuffs when we join, now all of them starting disappear,why? you got beat bad and low on cash? About Mia, Jon please have a final written for this girl. I never have an issue with BI but Mia's mistake that caused the trust between me and BI 2-3 weeks ago, i didn't say anything on this forum because i just want to deal with it myself but since this thread started then i just want to tell you so you can talk to her and make sure she knows what she's doing. Asked for payout not too long ago, she answered the phone and told me everything will be ready in several hours, called back 6 hours later funds still in my account and didn't send the money yet (Ashley's excuse was "MIA forgot" but i get paid the same night just only one thing is lower amount than i requested). A week later i asked for another pay out and Mia sent me 2 emails, first one was a payout info belong to some other player in NJ (with the dude name and control number too) by mistake. If you keep continue to run your business shady like this, no one will plays at your book anymore, Jon! To be honest , now i can only trust your book with maximum 2K. Another question for you: If your book is not going to be bankrupt then why you keep defense on this thread? if you're a healthy book then you dont need to explain to BTJ or anybody else, they'll see with their own eyes. Prove to us that you're a healthy book Jon!! you know how? bring back all the perks or admit that your business is in danger! but currently your book is still a top 10, thanks for quick pay out and free payout and thanks for good customer service and thanks for you too for being on here to help us with all the questions and issues.

Or maybe one of your customer rep lied to you about BTJ's issue or you didn't want honor BTJ's bonus because of his attitude.

I think in this case is caused by bad customer service + BTJ attitude = this thread.

[kaliboyz]

BEANTOWN, care to answer these questions below?

1) do you admit that if this issue is not happened then you still playing at Betislands, right? YES OR NO.

2) do you admit that Betislands pays very fast? YES OR NO

3) If you smelled that Betislands took the perks away then that's the sign of going bankrupt then why still deposited for only 15% bonus? you dont worry about your 800?

after read all these posts, i think 50/50 .
BTJ: if they didn't give you the 15% bonus then just withdraw and walk away to a new book, why trashing? after read all your posts i can see that all your statements are not meant to warn people but you want nobody else to plays at this book ever again. My question is why? why you hate BI that much? it gotta be something else...because of what Jon said? Because of what Nick said? Or Mia said? or because you lost all your $$ that you deposited and now you want to fight for that 15% bonus and turn that bonus into 5K ? i think you know that BI pays and pays quicker that's why you tried to collect that bonus and continue to play there but they didn't honor the bonus so that make you mad ,huh? If you already think (or experienced from all other books) that BI took away their perks and going invite only then they'll bankrupt then why you still deposited at the beginning? (i believe Jon announced his book going invites only a long time ago). So all your experiences are just "guessing", maybe happens maybe not. But this case is not clear so i just want to say thanks to you for alerting us about our money is not safe and thank you for practicing your freedom of speech.

Bet Islands (Jon): i know your book pays quick. You gave out to alot of people on here many bonuses (included me) because you want to keep us so that's why you made a deal with anybody on any different circumstances and you never want to lose us, but why losing BTJ for only 15% of $800, why? because your book low on cash? you offered alot of good stuffs when we join, now all of them starting disappear,why? you got beat bad and low on cash? About Mia, Jon please have a final written for this girl. I never have an issue with BI but Mia's mistake that caused the trust between me and BI 2-3 weeks ago, i didn't say anything on this forum because i just want to deal with it myself but since this thread started then i just want to tell you so you can talk to her and make sure she knows what she's doing. Asked for payout not too long ago, she answered the phone and told me everything will be ready in several hours, called back 6 hours later funds still in my account and didn't send the money yet (Ashley's excuse was "MIA forgot" but i get paid the same night just only one thing is lower amount than i requested). A week later i asked for another pay out and Mia sent me 2 emails, first one was a payout info belong to some other player in NJ (with the dude name and control number too) by mistake. If you keep continue to run your business shady like this, no one will plays at your book anymore, Jon! To be honest , now i can only trust your book with maximum 2K. Another question for you: If your book is not going to be bankrupt then why you keep defense on this thread? if you're a healthy book then you dont need to explain to BTJ or anybody else, they'll see with their own eyes. Prove to us that you're a healthy book Jon!! you know how? bring back all the perks or admit that your business is in danger! but currently your book is still a top 10, thanks for quick pay out and free payout and thanks for good customer service and thanks for you too for being on here to help us with all the questions and issues.

Or maybe one of your customer rep lied to you about BTJ's issue or you didn't want honor BTJ's bonus because of his attitude.

I think in this case is caused by bad customer service + BTJ attitude = this thread.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

# 1 i might have played with them again but now no way you dont lie and try and ruin my offshore reputation like jon did.he knew i started a thread about not being offered the bonus i was promised way before my first bet had started and won.

#2 i dont know how they pay i have never collected a check i have only made (2) 800 dollar deposits and havent done so well.this time after the bonus incident i didnt give a f-ck i just wanted to get out of there

# 3 bet islands didnt take away my dime line to 190 until just 3 days ago in the middle of the night i am now on a 15 cent line at 150.

If you screw me over once its real hard to fix the mistakes i am going to go to every forum i know and tell this story f-ck jon and bet islands that was a bullshit move.

Any other sportsbook would have just credit my account the 15% bonus even after the 1st game won it was obviously there mistake since i got the e-mail from nick walters telling me they made a mistake

[kaliboyz]

You didnt answer my last question, BTJ.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

I think i did kali when i signed up i didnt know they were going to rip me off on the bonus money and take away the dime line to 190 and cut it to 150.to be honest with you i didnt really do much research when i made my deposit i went with what was said in the forum and the phone calls and e-mails from nick walters at bet islands.

Jon was a real prick about the bonus issue like i said any decent sportsbook would have credited my account the 15% cash bonus with a 3x rollover even after my first game won.i had it in writing in the main forum but jon decided he would take a shot at me an decline me the bonus offer.it was a mickey mouse move by a mickey mouse sportsbook.

[Ra77er]

At the time he deposited I'm sure he felt the book was a decent out. God knows this board has done wonders for BI and I've been following the saga from the beginning. If your happy there then by all means express how you feel. BTJ isn't the most articulate forum goer (abrasive) by all means but he really seems upset about the way the shop does business. If you don't want to read his posts then don't read em. Report his posts, ignore him w/e but I happen to agree with his underlying statement that it seems a bit shady from an outsider. Any clients that are there I wish you many profitable days and hassel free payouts for years to come.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

I SHOULDNT HAVE TO GO BEGGING JON AND BET ISLANDS FOR BONUS MONEY JUST DO THE RIGHT THING LIKE GOOD SPORTSBOOKS WOULD HAVE DONE.DO YOU THINK SCOTTY AT BET JAMAICA WOULD HAVE PULLED A MICKEY MOUSE MOVE LIKE JON DID OVER SHORT MONEY THE ORIGINAL OFFER SHOULD HAVE STOOD BUT JON DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO BE A REAL PRICK AND REFUSE THE ORIGINAL BONUS OFFER.

JON HAS NO DEFENSE IN THIS ISSUE HE WAS CAUGHT LYING HE SAW MY THREAD ON THE MAIN FORUM AND IT WAS WAY BEFORE I HIT MY FIRST BET.ANOTHER RAT BASTARD SPORTSBOOK OWNER TAKING A SHOT AT A PLAYER IF MY GAME HAD LOST HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME THE BONUS BUT SINCE I HIT FOR 550 DOLLARS HE DECLINED IT

BET ISLANDS IS A SHIT BOOK JUST WAIT AND SEE FELLAS THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL WITH ALL THE CHANGES GOING ON

[darkhat]

Betislands pays fast.. If you want to play at a book where you can call at 9am and have the cash in your hand by 3pm, play at Betislands and Rebatewager.

99 percent of books have far worse issues for US players than Betislands and Rebatewager.

[pensfan1919]

Off topic but where, if anywhere offshore, did Scotty Johnson from BetJam land?

[BEANTOWNJIM]

WHEREVER HE LANDED HE WILL BE ALLRIGHT NOBODY WAS AS CUSTOMER FRIENDLY AS HIM.I REMEMBER I SENT OUT MY W U AND THE NAME WAS MISSPELLED SO SCOTTY LET ME BET ANYWAY UNTIL THE W ESTERN UNION WENT THROUGH I DID LOSE THE BET BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS NICE OF SCOTTY TO SAY (I TRUST YOU JIM) THATS HOW YOU RUN A SPORTSBOOK NOT TRYING TO HUSTLE CUSTOMERS OUT OF BONUS MONEY LIKE BET ISLANDS DOES

I WOULD GUESS HE PROBABLY WENT BACK WITH SPIRO THATS ONLY A GUESS.I THINK HE WAS TO YOUNG TO RETIRE

[princecharles]

Jim you're a pisser!

Question: What determines your useage of ALL CAPS in a post, or normal rules of punctuation?

I notice you do seem a bit calmer and less combative when posting normally.

SBR sharps wanna know!

[pensfan1919]

Would be nice to see Scotty with a US facing book. That guy was/is the best.

[Trident]

WHEREVER HE LANDED HE WILL BE ALLRIGHT NOBODY WAS AS CUSTOMER FRIENDLY AS HIM.I REMEMBER I SENT OUT MY W U AND THE NAME WAS MISSPELLED SO SCOTTY LET ME BET ANYWAY UNTIL THE W ESTERN UNION WENT THROUGH I DID LOSE THE BET BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS NICE OF SCOTTY TO SAY (I TRUST YOU JIM) THATS HOW YOU RUN A SPORTSBOOK NOT TRYING TO HUSTLE CUSTOMERS OUT OF BONUS MONEY LIKE BET ISLANDS DOES

I guess he didn't know about the scam you pulled at Bet Australia with W U.

I REMEMBER ONCE I SENT A DIME TO BET AUSTRALIA THEY HAVE A 12 HOUR DIFFERENCE BUT I WAS CREDITED THE DIME IN MY ACCOUNT TO WAGER BEFORE THEY PICKED UP THE DOUGH.I BET AND LOST AND BET AUSTRALIA CALLS ME UP AND SAYS MY W U DIDNT GO THROUGH COULD YOU GO DOWN AND RESEND US THE MONEY.I SAID F-CK YOU I WENT DOWN AND GOT MY MONEY BACK.SOMETIMES YOU JUST GET LUCKY OFFSHORE.

[paco]

Haha, trident just buried that social club prick BTJ

[BranchDavidian]

I DONT HAVE TIME FOR KIDS GAMES FILE A COMPLAINT I JUST POINT OUT THE FACTS I AM VERY HAPPY I AM BACK AT HERITAGE AND I BET THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS LAST NIGHT TO MAKE 600 DOLLARS

I GRIN WHEN I WIN

ALL I WANTED WAS AN APOLOGY FROM THIS AROGANT F-CK JON AT BET ISLANDS IT WAS HIS STAFF THAT F-CKED UP NOT ME I DONT LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SOME DEADBEAT THAT JUST WALKED OFF THE STREET BET ISLANDS IS THE ONE IN QUESTION NOT BEANTOWNJIM

From the previous post it kinda looks like a deadbeat is exactly how you deserve to be treated!

[Trident]

Haha, trident just buried that social club prick BTJ

A gem from 2003 when he took a shot at Cascade and has been paid multiple times since over the years.

I really didn't want to respond as we have tried very hard to put this episode behind us. However, I refuse to let lies be told about this company and its employees. Upon Jim's request and with his promise to spare the forum more wasted reading, we sent $ to the charity of his choosing. The receipt of the $ has been confirmed, yet Jim continues to take plight to whomever will listen. No one from OSGA or any other forum contacted me on Jim's behalf. A couple of anonymous callers questioned me, but I refused to answer. No email was ever sent to Jim calling him a sucker. I'll forward a copy of the email in question to Shrink. He can do with it what he pleases. Undoubtedly, things were said that both parties regret, but there is only so much badgering and abuse one person can stand.

I hope this answers your question. The decision to not cancel Jim's bet is one we vehemtly support. The fact Jim has admitted to purposely past posting us is irrelevant. He made a bet, we accepted it, he lost, end of story. The $ was sent to Jim's charity in April after he promised to drop the issue upon receipt. It is nearly September, and Jim is still harping. This will be the the final response from me on this subject as we have lived up to our word by sending the $ to Jim's charity and we feel it is now his turn to be a man of his word and let this die once and for all.

[HedgeHog]

Not too long later, Cascade started stiffing everyone. Guess they took a page out of the BTJ playbook.

[Strider]

I guess he didn't know about the scam you pulled at Bet Australia with W U.


I REMEMBER ONCE I SENT A DIME TO BET AUSTRALIA THEY HAVE A 12 HOUR DIFFERENCE BUT I WAS CREDITED THE DIME IN MY ACCOUNT TO WAGER BEFORE THEY PICKED UP THE DOUGH.I BET AND LOST AND BET AUSTRALIA CALLS ME UP AND SAYS MY W U DIDNT GO THROUGH COULD YOU GO DOWN AND RESEND US THE MONEY.I SAID F-CK YOU I WENT DOWN AND GOT MY MONEY BACK.SOMETIMES YOU JUST GET LUCKY OFFSHORE.

what a cockbag. this thread should be closed.

[Betislands]

Hey guys,

This will be my last post about this issue , BeanTownJim was offered the bonus anybody that has dealt with Betislands knows how we do our best for our clients and bend the rules for them.

SBR can even confirm I sent BeanTownJim a PM asking him to contact me about the bonus , we called and emailed him and he decided not to contact us back , there is not much more I can do about this.

If people wish to insult Betislands or question us please do so when our perfect payout record is tainted , yes we have gone through changes but everyone has been given a fair shake.

Cheers,

Jon

[Strider]

Hey guys,

This will be my last post about this issue , BeanTownJim was offered the bonus anybody that has dealt with Betislands knows how we do our best for our clients and bend the rules for them.

SBR can even confirm I sent BeanTownJim a PM asking him to contact me about the bonus , we called and emailed him and he decided not to contact us back , there is not much more I can do about this.

If people wish to insult Betislands or question us please do so when our perfect payout record is tainted , yes we have gone through changes but everyone has been given a fair shake.

Cheers,

Jon

keep up the good work and please keep your presence in these forums.

[princecharles]

Hey
An all proceeds to charity boxing match BTJ vs Jon Cheers!

[Bill Dozer]

# 1 i might have played with them again but now no way you dont lie and try and ruin my offshore reputation like jon did.he knew i started a thread about not being offered the bonus i was promised way before my first bet had started and won.

#2 i dont know how they pay i have never collected a check i have only made (2) 800 dollar deposits and havent done so well.this time after the bonus incident i didnt give a f-ck i just wanted to get out of there

# 3 bet islands didnt take away my dime line to 190 until just 3 days ago in the middle of the night i am now on a 15 cent line at 150.

If you screw me over once its real hard to fix the mistakes i am going to go to every forum i know and tell this story f-ck jon and bet islands that was a bullshit move.

Any other sportsbook would have just credit my account the 15% bonus even after the 1st game won it was obviously there mistake since i got the e-mail from nick walters telling me they made a mistake

BTJ act starting to get old. Like other posters said, he's mad about something that really has no merit as a sportsbook complaint so now he's posting redundantly that BI is bad news. We don't mind people venting about changes even relentlessly. SBR never deletes posts or interferes with poster conversations, including BetOnline and Bovada (to the poster that asked. And, BI is as much a sponsor as they are.)

But ya, this isnt venting about something he doesn't like or sharing feedback. This is an attempt to manipulate perception of the reader. I think readers know better but that will be about it anyways.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

THANKS FOR THE LECTURE BILLY BOY BUT I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

SPORTSBOOKS THAT RENEG ON BONUSES = BUYER BEWARE

ITS OVER BUT I STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED EVEN IF BET ISLANDS IS PAYING YOU A HEFTY ADVERTISING FEE

I HAD IT IN WRITING FROM NICK WALTERS 15% CASH WITH A 3X ROLLOVER AND IT WAS NEVER PUT INTO MY ACCOUNT YOU CANT ARGUE WITH THAT BILL DOZER

[robmpink]

BTJ act starting to get old. Like other posters said, he's mad about something that really has no merit as a sportsbook complaint so now he's posting redundantly that BI is bad news. We don't mind people venting about changes even relentlessly. SBR never deletes posts or interferes with poster conversations, including BetOnline and Bovada (to the poster that asked. And, BI is as much a sponsor as they are.)

But ya, this isnt venting about something he doesn't like or sharing feedback. This is an attempt to manipulate perception of the reader. I think readers know better but that will be about it anyways.

Welcome to the year 1999.

[Bill Dozer]

THANKS FOR THE LECTURE BILLY BOY BUT I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

SPORTSBOOKS THAT RENEG ON BONUSES = BUYER BEWARE

ITS OVER BUT I STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED EVEN IF BET ISLANDS IS PAYING YOU A HEFTY ADVERTISING FEE

I HAD IT IN WRITING FROM NICK WALTERS 15% CASH WITH A 3X ROLLOVER AND IT WAS NEVER PUT INTO MY ACCOUNT YOU CANT ARGUE WITH THAT BILL DOZER

Unfortunately in the game of free money offshore that's happened at every book and also the UK ones. What matters is how it is handled. Did the mistake cost you any money? Do they cover your fees to reverse the transaction? Did they reverse it quickly? If it happens to a player who already wagered, does he get the prorated bonus amount?

There is always criticism and analyzing you can do when a book changes a rule, policy or the entire business model. But, you aren't doing that. I think youre just trying to use our forum trying to hurt their business with newbs because they rubbed you the wrong way and you decided you aren't going back. We don't interfere with real discussion but posters can't manipulate our board for their own fun.

Welcome to the year 1999.

I liked the lawn mower story.

[BigDaddy]

Jon give BTJ his bonus. I have seen you reward people you shouldn't and here you got a guy that you should actually be taking care of and yet you let it go this far? I'm baffled.

[losemyloot]

So does betislands offer dimelines for bases or not? If you have to send a special email to get them then that is messed up!

[HedgeHog]

So does betislands offer dimelines for bases or not? If you have to send a special email to get them then that is messed up!

It's 10c up to 150 and then goes to 15c afterward (20c on larger lines).