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If players were working off a bonus under the previous bonus structure ( where the bonus was significantly higher but there was no monthly rebate ), then they would not qualify for any monthly rebate. I saw this stated somewhere on the site, and knew that I would not qualify for a rebate also --- unless I lost my previous deposit and made another one --- with a smaller bonus.Originally Posted by dark star
i saw that too but it should be clearly listed on his rules instead of giant letters stating" NO STRINGS ATTACHED".I understand alot of the players frustration now with this book and I play there.There is never a definative set of rules for everybody across the board and that is where the problem lies.
SHADY BACK ROOM DEALS IS NEVER GOOD FOR ANYBODYBOOKS THAT DO THIS ARE ALSO SHADY SO I GUESS IT ALL GOES BACK TO DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING BET ISLANDS COULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS TOMORROW
THATS WHY THEY CALL THIS GAMBLING NOT ONLY ARE YOU GAMBLING ON THE GAMES YOUR ALSO GAMBLING ON BEING PAID AT CERTAIN SPORTSBOOKS
Good to see BTJ back I like the way he doesn't let the books get away with all their nonsense!
"Sweat the Game, Not the Payout" is The Greek's famous motto--not Cascade's as you incorrectly stated. So should Greek bettors be worried because this book boasts about their payout ability? Of course not, they are a proven A+ Book. BetIslands has a similar stellar payout record, but it is over a much, much shorter time span. They are "only" a B rated Book because of their relative youth, nothing sinister as you suggest.ALL I CAN TELL YOU GUYS IS I HAVE BEEN IN THESE FORUMS FOR OVER 15 YEARS AND I GO BACK TO WHEN YOU HAD OVER 30 GOOD SPORTSBOOKS TO CHOOSE FROM AND I ALWAYS NOTICED THE BOOKS THAT POINTED OUT HOW FAST THEY PAY AND THAT THEY ALWAYS PAY IN THE END WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND F-CKED THE PLAYERS.
CAMELOT (WE PAY AND FAST) TOOK OFF WITH PLAYERS MONEY
CASCADE (SWEAT THE GAMES NOT YOUR PAYOUTS) WE PAY AND FAST STOPPED PAYING
BET FIRST CLASS (I HAVE DEEP POCKETS YOU GUYS WILL BE PAID DONT WORRY) STOPPED PAYING
ACES GOLD (WE HAVE REDUCED JUICE) AND WE CANT PAY YOU FAST ENOUGH STOPPED PAYING
AND NOW BET ISLANDS WE HAVE REDUCED JUICE GREAT BONUSES AND WE PAY FAST YOUR MONEY IS SAFE WITH USLIKE I SAID EVERY SPORTSBOOK THAT TELLS YOU HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE AND HOW FAST THEY PAY ALWAYS IN THE END GO BELLY UP AND STEAL YOUR MONEY.I WANT A SPORTSBOOK THAT DOESNT HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT FAST PAYOUTS THEY JUST DO IT ON REPUTATION.
TIME WILL TELL FELLAS BUT I DONT LIKE SPORTSBOOK THAT CHANGE THERE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND HAS TO KEEP TELLING EVERYBODY HOW FAST THEY PAY THATS A RED FLAG IN MY BOOK.
ASK YOURSELF JON PAYS SBR FORUM A GOOD AMOUNT TO ADVERTISE IN THE FORUM HOW COME WITH ALL THESE GREAT OFFERS REDUCED JUICE,FAST PAYOUTS,GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE THEN WHY ARE THEY ONLY RATED A (B) IN THE SPORTSBOOK REVIEW SECTION.SOMETHING FISHY THERE
THIS REMINDS ME OF REBATE WAGER REMEMBER THEM JJGOLD USED TO PUSH THEM WHERE ARE THEY NOW.BET ISLANDS SEEMS A LITTLE SHADY TO ME DONT BE SURPRISED WHEN THE PAYOUTS STOP AND THE REDUCED JUICE IS GONE AND FORGET ABOUT THE BIONUSES THATS JUST FALSE ADVERTISING
Before comparing BI to various stiff joints, you need to give at least one example of this happening there. Fact is you can't. BI is a solid small shop going through an identity crisis currently. However, if you don't like the flavor of the day, you can always collect quickly and leave.
PS Keep up the crusade BTJ, and don't let the facts get in the way of your opinions.
what nonsense
BI is top notch IMO and I've always been treated fairly and with respect at BI... I feel very safe my funds being at Jon's shop and won't let one racist from Boston who just spews garbage on the board change my view.
NO FACTS
BUYER BEWARE WHEN BET ISLANDS GOES INVITE ONLY AND SLOW PAYS AND CHANGES THE RULES AGAIN AND YOU HAVE NOBODY TO COMPLAIN TO BUT JON
WHAT KIND OF SPORTSBOOK COMES INTO THE FORUM AND ANNOUNCES HE WANTS TO GO INVITE ONLY THIS IS THE WRITING ON THE WALL BOYS BUYER BEWARE
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
Beaner, here's a complaint form for your bonus dispute with Jon and BI. SBR will recover it for you IF the FACTS are in your corner.
Is anybody else still not getting baseball lines?What time do they usually post them?
bashing a good sportsbook because a known shot taker that was banned before did not get his bonus or his way should not actually be allowed
lines are up for me
Everyone knows that jon will address your individual concerns on an individual basis and usually bends over backwards to please. On the same note he is a bookmaker and needs to make business decisions. Beleive what u like about the dime line explanation. It sounds logical to me and he tried, offered to fix it for u. Maybe if bi kept giving 100 fp, half point, etc they would get buried.
As far as the mumbo jumbo talk about becoming a invite book just to save sponsor fees, that is silly. I think this idea was tossed around before they even became a sponsor here.
Rob,alot of us are just asking for honest answers to legitimate questions and still haven't recieved them.
Why do you have to call or PM your acct.# to get the dimeline straightened out?
Why was the -107 juice taken away from the ones that had it?
Why are the rules changed at the drop of a hat with no explanation?
Maybe you have the answers.I have never ever had to call a sportsbook to get what they stated and then took away.This was a great book during football and March Madness,after that not so much.
Mbenz,
Hope all is well the answers are the following :
1. The reason I ask for PM or to contacted directly is to cater to each player personally and see how they would like to hanlde their accounts with rollovers pending etc. I do my best to hanlde every account with personalized service and offer them some compensation for the hassle most of the people that play with us and contact me can testify to that.
2. The 107 was not taken away , we just stopped offering it to new accounts I posted several times that posters that had 107 juice before we moved into our new wagering facility should contact us to get it re-instated.
3. The rules are not changing , we own several shops and now that we are under one single roof some changes have been made we do our best to try and make the changes easy and smooth for everyone and clients that do not like the offer can cashout for free and as always will be paid promptly.
Betislands is a solid book , yes we have had some changes in the last few months but these are changes that needed to be made in order to compete with other high tier sportsbooks like moving into our own facility that allows us to grow at will. Bonus offers change at all sportsbooks Betislands happens to be a rather public forum book so any change will cause some turmoil this I understand and do my best to come on the boards and provide updates and help if if is required.
We will continue to try and become one of the best with our payouts and service , last 2 months there have been some changes but " growing pains " are a good pain to have everyone has gotten paid on time and we are still the book that goes the extra mile for the players.
Cheers!
Jon
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JON YOU SAY YOU OWN SEVERAL SHOPS CARE TO TELL US WICH ONES OR IS THAT A BIG SECRET ALSO.IS ONE OF THEM CASCADE
SEVERAL SHOPS I WONDER WHAT BOOKS JON OWNS THAT ARE SLOW PAYING RIGHT NOW
ANYBODY KNOW WHAT SPORTSBOOKS BET ISLANDS IS ASSOCIATED WITH I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF ANY OF THEM ARE ON THE SLOW PAYING LIST.MAYBE BET ISLANDS PAYS BUT HOW MANY OTHER BOOKS THAT JONS IS INVOLVED WITH DONT PAY.
JON WHAT ARE YOUR SEVERAL SHOPS THAT YOU OWN
BeantownJim,
We own other sites that are not post up related that have been in the business for over 10 years with one of the best track records.
Cheers!
Jon
BI you are using excuses after excuse.. How can moving to another facility affect your Computer files dont u guys keep this stuff on hard drive.. So if that is the case how can u keep up with players balances but not bonuses Cmon BI
Pretty thorough explanation by jon. Is it me or I've seen him already answer some of these questions in the plethora of bi threads here?
Marco,
How does a bonus change affect the overall financial stance of a book ? Books change their offers several times a year depending on the season on sport this is a known fact.
Jon
HEY JON DO YOU INSTRUCT THAT DIPSHIT MIA NOT TO OFFER BONUSES TO CUSTOMERS
I GUESS NICK WALTERS MUST FORGET ABOUT THE 15% WITH A 3X ROLLOVER OFFER THAT HE SENDS OUT TO PLAYERS
JUST LOSE MY NUMBER AND E-MAIL JON I AM VERY HAPPT AT HERITAGE
Beantown,
The 15% was offered to you several times in the thread and even via a PM I sent you this website , perhaps you did not recieve them Heritage is a great shop the door is open at Betislands for you sir.
Have a good day !
Jon
BTJ Heritage and BI are both good books!
Why hasn't BTJ been banned yet? He is a raving lunatic
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Betislands is the best choice out there. Fastest payouts, best Customer service, great lines, awesome bonuses, and software that's easy to the eyes...currently the best best all-around book out there....and your funds are 100% safe! Must have out!
I am no longer worried about the information that beantown has given on this thread. I initially was slightly worried about some truth to the things he was saying in regards to BI. I now see that his agenda is to do and say anything it takes to take his fustration out on Jon and BI.HEY JON DO YOU INSTRUCT THAT DIPSHIT MIA NOT TO OFFER BONUSES TO CUSTOMERS
I GUESS NICK WALTERS MUST FORGET ABOUT THE 15% WITH A 3X ROLLOVER OFFER THAT HE SENDS OUT TO PLAYERS
JUST LOSE MY NUMBER AND E-MAIL JON I AM VERY HAPPT AT HERITAGE
I will no longer enter into this thread as it is now pointless. Bean is a rambling fool who wont receive anymore of my valuable time.
Jon,
At this point you would be better off leaving this matter be. You or BI does not need to save face, people know that you run a quality shop and wasting anymore time in this thread is a waste of time......
Yeah, Beantown has an ax to grind with BI.
Beantown has had an axe to grind with everyone and every sports book at one point or another. Everyone. Every single one of them.
DUDLEY THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE IF A SPORTSBOOK F-CKS ME THEN I WRITE ABOUT IT.I HAVE NEVER SAID A BAD THING ABOUT HERITAGE BECAUSE THE DONT PLAY MICKEY MOUSE GAMES.AS SOON AS I SENT 800 DOLLARS TO BET ISLANDS MY ACCOUNT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CREDITED THE 15% CASH BONUS WITH A 3X ROLLOVER THEN JON LIES TO THE FORUM AND SAYS I MADE A BET BEFORE THEY COULD OFFER ME A BONUS TOTAL LIE SINCE I STARTED A THREAD ABOUT MIA NOT BEING CUSTOMER FRIENDLY.
5 DIMES F-CKED ME OVER ALSO AND I WILL NEVER PALY THERE AGAIN THEY CHARGE ME HALF THE SENDING FEES THEN I WITHDREW 3 DIMES AND THEY CHARGED ME 60 DOLLARS STATING THEY DIDNT GIVE OUT ONE FREE PAYOUT PER MONTH ANYMORE.THEN A WEEK LATER A GUY IN THE FORUM SAID HE JUST GOT HIS FREE PAYOUT I WAS BULLSHIT WHEN I HEARD THAT.
IT WAS ALL IN WRITING IN THE FORUM BUR BET ISLANDS DECIDED TO F-CK ME OVER THATS FINE BUT I WILL NEVER HAVE A GOOD WORD TO SAY ABOUT A SPORTSBOOK THAT RIPS ME OFF
IF A SPORTSBOOK LIES ABOUT A BONUS WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO SAY WHEN YOU ARE WITHDRAWING A BIG CHECK YOU CAN BE DAM SURE THEY WILL HAVE SOME EXCUSE FOR SLOW PAYING.
SCOTTY AT BET JAMAICA ALWAYS TREATED ME WITH RESPECT ITS NOT ME ITS THE F-CKING LYING AND CHEATING SPORTSBOOKS THAT CREATE THE PROBLEMS.I JUST DONT HOLD BACK IF I GET RIPPED OFF YOUR GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
I was never told an excuse & never had a slow pay from BetIslands. Received 5k per month, for the last 3 months with no issues. Thanks Jon.
BOBBY YOUR BROTHER IN LAW JON IS A SWELL GUY TO PAY YOU 15 DIMES THE LAST 3 MONTHS
LETS CUT THE BULLSHIT BOBBY IF YOU BEAT JON FOR 15 GRAND YOU WOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR OR HAVE YOUR LIMITS CUT IN HALF LETS NOT MAKE UP STORIES BOBBY BOY.
SO BOBBY IS JON ACCEPTED BY THE REST OF YOUR FAMILY OR IS HE CONSIDERED A RAT BASTARD WHO JIPS PEOPLE OUT OF BONUS MONEY
Beantown, why don't you do better things with your time like going back to madjacks and having a cap off with Raymond? Sort of like when you got crushed.
Last edited by robmpink; 06-07-12 at 09:01 PM.
1. The reason I ask for PM or to contacted directly is to cater to each player personally and see how they would like to hanlde their accounts with rollovers pending etc. I do my best to hanlde every account with personalized service and offer them some compensation for the hassle most of the people that play with us and contact me can testify to that.
BI is the best in the business! Gotta testify, Anytime I've contacted jon he's always been more than fair on any issue I've had. Thats what I love about BI, the personalized service.
Last edited by jazzyj7; 06-07-12 at 09:16 PM.
exactly! Jon and the staff are the best! This guy has answered every e-mail I've ever sent him. Most quicker vs others, but they have always been answered. I've jumped the gun prematurely once or twice here w/ them and they have always been first class w/ me, even when the issue was caused by me.
people may say it is because they are making a lot of $$$ from you, which I could understand. I'm probably even w/ them since I played there, which is about 16 months. Personally, I consider that a win.
Again,if we ever (fat chance) read about BI slow pays, then we could talk.
JUST WAIT AND SEE HOW YOUR PERKS START DISAPPEARING YOUR ALREADY SEEING IT WITH THE DIME LINE CUT OFF AT 150 NOW YOU WILL NO LONGER SEE -107 FOR FOOTBALL ITS COMING BOYS SO BRACE YOURSELF
MICKEY MOUSE SPORTSBOOKS THAT RENEG ON BONUS MONEY ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CUT CORNERS ITS COMING FELLAS LITTLE BY LITTLE PERKS WILL START DISAPPEARING.
JON ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE -107 FOR FOOTBALL GAMES AND TOTALS THIS YEAR
THIS BET ISLANDS REMINDS ME OF HOOLYWOOD SPORTSBOOK REMEMBER THEM BOYS EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND DANDY THEN THE -107 DISAPPEARED THEN THE FREE PAYOUTS WERE GONE THEN THE SHOP WAS CLOSED
STAY WITH THE BIG BOYS IN TIMES LIKE THIS MICKEY MOUSE BOOKS THAT JIP PEOPLE ON BONUSES ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CUT CORNERS.
JON GOES INVITE ONLY BECAUSE HE WANTS TO CUT OUT THE ADVERTISING MONEY HERE AT SBR THEN WHO IS GOING TO PATROL THE THIEVES
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