[Honeybadger]

If you are playing single hand blackjack, "100 cards per second" is not a reasonable answer. Don't waste your money on this crap

[Mikail]

Is it possible to get the software used and have someone decode it? We will be able to figure out if it's rigged or not. I know there is no way in a hell the dealer's down card has an assigned value until you make your move. Then the card turns into whatever he needs to win.

I have firsthand knowledge of how they work and I can tell you with 100% certainty that they are rigged and there is nothing random about it.

[Honeybadger]

You are right sir!

[theballsflop]

Saddest part is I always felt they were rigged, but when I'm tilting from poker or a heavy sports bet gone wrong, blackjack magically calls my name.

[St.Bernard1991]

Same thing happened to me. The dealer always makes a hand while showing 6. On their casino your are lucky if the dealer busts 1 in every 10 hands. And on every double you are dealt a 2-4. In regards to roulette, I have played thousands of spins and I have two strategies. One I cover 2 of the 3 columns. The other I cover 5 of the 6 double streets. I am lucky if I hit at a 50% clip on the double columns. And I am lucky if I win 3/5 covering 5 double streets. I understand anything can happen as the "wheel has no memory" and you "play faster therefore lose faster online." However these stats are not even close to normal. When I asked for a log of my roulette play I was told they could not provide that information.

[captrobey]

It is absolutely rigged. They will get morons like me that from time to time lose control and lose everything you just won in there. After on and off playing for years you will NEVER get the runs that the dealer gets.
Especially when you up your bets. I was playing at Sportbet.com and was at $3400. I wanted to get to $3600 or so that i would have enough to get to $7000 if i double up sportbetting. I ended up losing to insane hand after insane hand to the dealer. Ended up losing everything.
One large bet i actually got a 20. The dealer had a 7 showing. He got a 9 and a 5. If this was once in a while ok-but the few times dealer does not get a 20 or 21 he ends up with it anyway.
I hate it when a rep from that place comes on here saying it is not rigged. It is so obvious it is not funny.

[themike78]

So tired of people crying that online blackjack is fixed. I just won a couple hundred dollars tonight from wager web casino. When people lose they want to cry that its all rigged. Then don't penetrating play if you think it is rigged. I have had just as bad beats at the casino as I have had online it is all the same. When you are ahead stop playing very simple. Not that hard to figure out.

[Mikail]

I have given up all online casino play. What really is laughable is when clowns try and say only losers call it rigged. That is nonsense and only tries and dismiss anyone who questions the games integrity as just a sore loser. Don't go there! Online casinos are rigged most often and are a vehicle of theft for sportsbooks and until they are regulated by a trusted reputable source I highly suggest to all not to get sucked into the thievery.

[St.Bernard1991]

You could not be more wrong. I do not look at total profits to decide whether it is rigged. I look at the stats. Over the course of thousands of spins when you have 2/3 of the board covered you should connect more than 50% of the time. They refuse to send me an exact log but based on what has occured I am not even close to 60%. On Even bets I am probably sitting around the low 40s. and on bets where I cover 30-37 numbers I am around 60%. So you mean to tell me if I had flipped this around and covered 7-37 numbers I would connect at a 40% rate? Not a chance. I would probably hit at around a 10 percent clip which would be alot more realistic

[St.Bernard1991]

I have already alerted fairgaming of the issue and there demanded betdsi provide an accurate log of my play there. If they deem it out of ordinary. (I have less than a -2.7% return) which I am not even close to, they will take further action

[captrobey]

I have given up all online casino play. What really is laughable is when clowns try and say only losers call it rigged. That is nonsense and only tries and dismiss anyone who questions the games integrity as just a sore loser. Don't go there! Online casinos are rigged most often and are a vehicle of theft for sportsbooks and until they are regulated by a trusted reputable source I highly suggest to all not to get sucked into the thievery.

You know, i actually posted when i actually won once because i was so shocked. At one point i even went on here every other day with 24 points and wanted to see how long before i won a hand. Took over 3 weeks betting 24 a hand here. There is no way that is random.If casinos online were fair i would be able to get to where i want just like in AC or Vegas . Most times i come out way ahead there. Online only twice have i come out way ahead .The SBR casino is really no better then any other . You barely will ever win. Look at all the posts you see when people place larger bets. They NEVER go your way. If it were fair at one point or another you would win 4 or 5 hands in a row. But you will not see a $200 or more bet win like that. But you sure as hell will see it lose that many.

[captrobey]

You could not be more wrong. I do not look at total profits to decide whether it is rigged. I look at the stats. Over the course of thousands of spins when you have 2/3 of the board covered you should connect more than 50% of the time. They refuse to send me an exact log but based on what has occured I am not even close to 60%. On Even bets I am probably sitting around the low 40s. and on bets where I cover 30-37 numbers I am around 60%. So you mean to tell me if I had flipped this around and covered 7-37 numbers I would connect at a 40% rate? Not a chance. I would probably hit at around a 10 percent clip which would be alot more realistic

Sure it is possible. Just like if i bet 100 hands and i lose the way that i always do. But that is the thing. It happens over and over. If it is random eventually you should have things go your way and win a nice amount. But you never will. Once in a blue moon you will but the numbers are so uneven there is no way in hell that it is random.

[Bandito97]

So tired of people crying that online blackjack is fixed. I just won a couple hundred dollars tonight from wager web casino. When people lose they want to cry that its all rigged. Then don't penetrating play if you think it is rigged. I have had just as bad beats at the casino as I have had online it is all the same. When you are ahead stop playing very simple. Not that hard to figure out.

Nobody gives a penetrating shit what you're tired of. A thousand people say its rigged and one or two say it isn't. It's obvious from the hands the house pulls it's a joke. Dealer gets 5 - 21's in a row and a player can't get 5 - 21's in 100 hands says something. Pull a 10 card on EVERY hard 12 to bust says something. Lose 20 out of 23 hands but can't put a streak of more than 4 winning hands in a row says something. Dealer converts 9 out of 10 hard 16's into a 20 or 21 says something. I could go on all night with examples. What it says is the integrity of these programs is pure garbage.

[captrobey]

Nobody gives a penetrating shit what you're tired of. A thousand people say its rigged and one or two say it isn't. It's obvious from the hands the house pulls it's a joke. Dealer gets 5 - 21's in a row and a player can't get 5 - 21's in 100 hands says something. Pull a 10 card on EVERY hard 12 to bust says something. Lose 20 out of 23 hands but can't put a streak of more than 4 winning hands in a row says something. Dealer converts 9 out of 10 hard 16's into a 20 or 21 says something. I could go on all night with examples. What it says is the integrity of these programs is pure garbage.

The losing 20 out of 23 hands in a row is the perfect example . How many times will you LOSE like that. I know i have lost that a bunch of times . And in that streak dealer gets 20-21 3/4 of the time. Now- how many times will you win 20 of 23 hands? I know i have played a ton and i never have.

[LordVodka]

I regularly lose 19/30 hands per every 30 hands. Seems to be the average.

[captrobey]

I just tried the bonus for the 1st time. It let me win at first a lot of hands. This was on 300 . I actually got to a certain point at $850. Then it "Froze" as if i reached a certain point and it was thinking. All of a sudden dealer was getting 20-21 every hand almost making sure i lose everything i won to that point. I think they know on a playthrough or rollover where to start making you lose so you cannot get anything. I have seen the exacxt same thing on a bunch of those online casinos that give you "free" cash to try them out. They always let you win at first but once you get to the point they know they need to stop you it all of a sudden "Freezes" then from that point on you will lose every hand insuring you do not get anything before completing the rollover.

[Goodluck]

Love the professionalism and response back on SBR. But like all others agree, third party sources don't mean jack...
I don't doubt BETDSI is a good book, just gotta stay away from online casino in general. Any sportsbook for that matter....

Mikail,

With regards to the DSI casino software, it has been audited and certified by third party sources for fairness and RNG efficacy. The casino software has passed RNG tests that allow it to be employed in licensed jurisdictions. In Jan 2012 SBR reported one such audit:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/News...-fairness.aspx

In every case DSI as a company takes every measure to ensure fair play. Our reputation is built on that fairness and paying members without the red tape and low weekly limit treatment.

Cordially,

DSI Relations

[captrobey]

18:57:21	Player Hand 13 3♣ J♠ Stand Dealer Hand 19 Q♥ 4♥ 5♣ Hit, Stand	154.00	-154.00
18:57:05	Player Hand 22 6♦ 6♣ K♦ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 13 3♣ T♣	50.00	-50.00
18:56:54	Player Hand 15 6♥ A♠ 8♠ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 19 Q♥ 2♣ 7♦ Hit, Stand	50.00	-50.00
18:56:44	Player Hand 20 T♠ Q♣ Stand Dealer Hand 23 5♣ 8♦ K♣ Hit, Bust	127.00	127.00
18:56:31	Player Hand 16 Q♣ 6♥ Dealer Hand 21 T♥ A♠ BlackJack	25.00	-25.00
18:56:24	Player Hand 13 5♠ 8♦ Surrender Dealer Hand 12 2♦ Q♠	25.00	-12.50
18:56:17	Player Hand 12 4♦ 8♠ Surrender Dealer Hand 20 T♦ K♥	25.00	-12.50
18:56:04	Player Hand 20 A♣ 9♥ Dealer Hand 21 Q♠ A♠ BlackJack	25.00	-25.00

Yea Ok

[Redondo]

you have to bet big with your own cash and you will find you might lose 5 or 6 $200 in a row, you could just as easily win that many. I rarely cash due to this compulsive nature. I got up $3500 on bet dsi casino(no bonus funds) I thought i'd givelive dealer baccarat a try, lost close to 10 $200 in a row, many times the dealer popped a 9. also this was not a hot women skimpy out. it was male that was looking side to side laughing as if he was at a good comedy show. I spoke with live about this and they well if don't like our live dealer casino DON'T PLAY IT!!!!!!!

[captrobey]

I noticed that too about the laughing but actually on another Live Casino. When i was losing big the girl would each time look at someone off screen each time and start laughing. I tried the live Casino this morning on DSI figured why not i won a FP but was only at $200. So i went in and played one hand for $200. I got a 20. Dealer of course gets BJ.
Plus i see what people mean when they think they can change the cards virtually. I was playing Sportbet awhile back and the cards were doing weird things. One hand i could see the dealers down card. On a lot of others when a hand was done the cards would still be on the table even though it was a new hand. So i had to play with all these cards all over the place. Also it seemed it would call on the dealer winning before she even drew the last card.

[Mikail]

I noticed that too about the laughing but actually on another Live Casino. When i was losing big the girl would each time look at someone off screen each time and start laughing. I tried the live Casino this morning on DSI figured why not i won a FP but was only at $200. So i went in and played one hand for $200. I got a 20. Dealer of course gets BJ.
Plus i see what people mean when they think they can change the cards virtually. I was playing Sportbet awhile back and the cards were doing weird things. One hand i could see the dealers down card. On a lot of others when a hand was done the cards would still be on the table even though it was a new hand. So i had to play with all these cards all over the place. Also it seemed it would call on the dealer winning before she even drew the last card.

That's because it's a scam.

[captrobey]

That's because it's a scam.

You my friend are 100% correct.

[indio]

I used to say Bovada casino was rigged because I was losing all the time when I was matching bonus money playing a video poker variant called pick'em poker that is supposed to have a 99.95% payback to the player. I thought, that can't be legit, I seem to be losing more than I should, I never hit quads when I have 3 of a kind, blah, blah, blah. So, I decided I would actually chart every session, keep track of the amount of hands played , and how many quads, full houses, flushes, str.flushes and straights I got to see if they would correspond to the math.

Last month they lowered the payout on pick'em poker to 99.45 from 99.95, so my study was complete after 874,551 hands. My payout total was 100.16%. From 300,000 hands on, it had been as low as 99.63% at the apx. 600,000 mark, to as high as 100.19% at the apx. 850,000 mark. And I'm sure if the study went to 10,000,000 hands I'd be within .10 of the 99.95% mark.

Variance is a funny thing. For example, playing this game should produce a straight flush (non-royal) once every 38,450 hands. I went one stretch of 140,000 without a single one, and then had a sick run where I got 5 of them in 2 days playing only 12,500 hands. You should get quads once every 2,360 hands. I once went 13,000 hands without a quad, and I once got 5 quads in only 3400 hands. But after 874,551 hands, I had 362, and I should of had 371, I had slightly more full houses, straights, and flushes than normal, got hot with straight flushes, getting 31 when I should have 23, and only 1 royal when I should have had 2.6. When dealt trips, you should convert that into quads 4.16% of the time. I once had a nightmare run of 154 in a row without a single convert to quads. I was even pretty short after 2622 tries having converted only 94 when I should have converted 109. But sure enough, by the time I got to 4,000 tries, i was only 6 shy off of average having 160 when I should have 166.

It's worth noting that during this year long study, I made 19k in bonus money to add to the 2k I won outright (probably why they lowered the payout).

Now, there is bogus casino software out there for sure, and there are some legitimate ones too, but for all the people so positive theirs are rigged, find out the payback to the player for your game under optimal strategy, find the statistical deviations for your game of choice, and chart it to a T for long enough and see what the exact payout is. I have yet to hear anyone complain about rigging if they go on a hot streak , it's only when they lose.

If you think a game is rigged do one of two things, either quit playing or PROVE it's rigged with real numerical data. That's what I set out to do, and found out I was incorrect in my assumptions.

[Regul8er]

Recently I had this bonus at 5d.......and turned my $200, 100% bonus into $1,200.......so it is possible....just grinding.