[WVU]

Or is this another trap?

[thegreen]

Or is this another trap?

Trap!!! If you lose they keep your money. Win and they Void out!!! Stay away from 5dimes Casino!!!! Big Scam. The real sick thing is that some folks who play that game have no clue it's +EV and when they win get money stolen from them!!! Stay AWay from that 5dimes casino. Fraudulent big time!!!

[WVU]

Can SBR or a 5dimes rep confirm that all casino play is valid at this point in time?

[Maniac]

I would be tempted to get on live chat and see if you can ask Tony direct what the score is - at least that way if he says yes its fine then you should be covered.

If it is a mistake then he *may* decide to throw you a bone for pointing it out...big maybe though !

[clowncar]

Please tell me there isn't another huge error. crimety sakes alive.

[GmCrazy]

WVU, How much did you run it up to?

[WVU]

I aint saying shit until I hear from SBR or 5 dimes. Hopefully someone chimes in here

[Bartmeister]

It will be interesting to see if SBR allows 5dimes to continue to take freeshots at casino players.

[DevilCheese]

one would think they would have reanalyzed all their games by now, prepare to barter with tony for your money if you win

[stikymess]

I aint saying shit until I hear from SBR or 5 dimes. Hopefully someone chimes in here

That aboy, listen try to square that away before you start airing it out on any forum.

[Kaabee]

well, they didn't complain about the 12.5% in the zabula case. only the bot. so you could use that against them in a dispute.

[pokerplayer22]

well, they didn't complain about the 12.5% in the zabula case. only the bot. so you could use that against them in a dispute.

Very good point

[GmCrazy]

WVU, You could always just report the error to 5dimes for a freeplay, err I mean a thank you if you are lucky enough to get that, lol

[Maniac]

well, they didn't complain about the 12.5% in the zabula case. only the bot. so you could use that against them in a dispute.

They didnt complain, but they did quickly drop the payout to cancel out the 12.5% edge shortly after the case came out...

[WVU]

I have alerted the SBR staff and have asked for a statement. Hopefully they chime in here.

[OSUCOWBOYS]

Gotta respect a guy who knows his craft.....

I hope you ass rape 'em WVU. Thieves.

[SBR Lou]

I have alerted the SBR staff and have asked for a statement. Hopefully they chime in here.

Official statement (as of now):

You haven't filed a complaint. You haven't provided your account number. You haven't said the game you were playing, what your deposit was or even what happened.

So, I'll trade you this statement in return for an SBR question --- why have you not provided the above and why do you ask for a comment from SBR inside of your vague thread knowing that you haven't?

[BigDaddy]

Gotta respect a guy who knows his craft.....

I hope you ass rape 'em WVU. Thieves.

+1


Lou if WVU tells you all of that info he might as well tell you what bank he is holding up as i don't think he is done bagging all of the money.

i think the question he asked was pretty simple

will they honor the winnings from the casino game.

i do not see how they cant as long as WVU played the game himself.

[WVU]

Official statement (as of now):

You haven't filed a complaint. You haven't provided your account number. You haven't said the game you were playing, what your deposit was or even what happened.

So, I'll trade you this statement in return for an SBR question --- why have you not provided the above and why do you ask for a comment from SBR inside of your vague thread knowing that you haven't?

Lou, there is no complaint to be filed yet. I can only assume if I win I get paid. All I want is verification. I think you know what I am getting at here. I found an advantage I would like to exploit. Will I get paid if I win? Pretty simple, really.

[stats13]

Lou, there is no complaint to be filed yet. I can only assume if I win I get paid. All I want is verification. I think you know what I am getting at here. I found an advantage I would like to exploit. Will I get paid if I win? Pretty simple, really.

are you 100% positive you haven't missed something and the advantage doesn't exist as you believe it to? Not calling you a liar or stupid, just playing devil's advocate.

[pokerplayer22]

+1


Lou if WVU tells you all of that info he might as well tell you what bank he is holding up as i don't think he is done bagging all of the money.

i think the question he asked was pretty simple

will they honor the winnings from the casino game.

i do not see how they cant as long as WVU played the game himself.

I agree...Supposedly Tony re-evaluated all casino games and made sure all payouts were correct. If WVU still thinks he can make some money in one of the games, then he should go for it. I think he just wants clarification ahead of time, to prevent any potential problems down the road.

[excel]

Pretty simple question.

[vercer]

i hope you are using different IP posting here and playing at 5dimes ,as if not after all these disputes with 5dimes and sbr decisions i am pretty sure Tony will have your account number soon and all your movements will be under reading glass

[WVU]

are you 100% positive you haven't missed something and the advantage doesn't exist as you believe it to? Not calling you a liar or stupid, just playing devil's advocate.

108.3% positive.

[WVU]

I agree...Supposedly Tony re-evaluated all casino games and made sure all payouts were correct. If WVU still thinks he can make some money in one of the games, then he should go for it. I think he just wants clarification ahead of time, to prevent any potential problems down the road.

You are exactly right. I am not sure how Lou could not get that. I think my intentions are obvious. I suspect Lou would at least contact 5dimes and get them to issue a statement on the validity of the casino games. This thread would not have existed a couple months ago, but in light of recent events I think I am doing the right thing here.

[Lo$t]

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[Lo$t]

[senseionline]

Available Balance: $1062.44

nice hit

how much do u lost there ? i never receive any freeplay from them

[Dr.Gonzo]

So, I'll trade you this statement in return for an SBR question --- why have you not provided the above and why do you ask for a comment from SBR inside of your vague thread knowing that you haven't?

It's a simple question. I'll rephrase it for you.

If one was to play a casino game at 5 dimes and the EV was 108.3% would SBR consider this a fair game and expect the player to be paid if he complied with all other rules?

[SBR Lou]

WVU,

We'll be happy to assist if you actually deposit to 5Dimes and have an account complaint, but as it stands, I'm not sure what I can do for you other than say yes, 5Dimes believes their games to be in order.

If you can show otherwise you may be doing yourself a favor to report it directly to the book. Creating a forum spectacle likely just ensures your reward would be a thank you.

Regarding "what would 5D do if x y or z were the case", until that hypothetical scenario unfolds then I don't feel it would be accurate to answer.

[pokerplayer22]

Available Balance: $1062.44

Nice score...Especially needing OT in the Heat game. A little luck never hurt anyone. Best of luck

[WVU]

Lou, I am not after a "reward". If I win I expect to get paid 100% of my win. It is not the player's obligation to oversee the 5diimes casino and certify the payout percentage. How can you expect that? I am not creating a forum spectacle. I asked a simple question and I get a bullshit runaround.

Either Tony doesn't know what he is doing or he is setting a trap. It has to be one of the 2.

[SBR Lou]

WVU,

5Dimes doesn't know which game you are referring to. If you can document that you're not mistaken, please do so.

[Santo]

If he does so, and it was a mistake, they'll likely change the pay table so there's no profit in it for him.

The question is whether 5Dimes should be expected to pay on a 8% error, or (very roughly) having -3 when market is -2.5 in NFL.

[donjuan]

Lou,

I don't think you're understanding what's going on here. If WVU plays and has an 8.3% edge and 5 dimes later claims it was a pay table error and voids the winnings, he's getting freerolled. He's not looking for a freeplay, he wants to know if 5 Dimes is going to descend into F rating territory (non-advertiser rating system).