No wonder Nancy isn't afraid to get her hair done at a salon that is supposed to be closed.
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09-01-20 11:43 PM #36
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09-01-20 11:45 PM #37
My honest thoughts from the beginning back in March that ARE POSTED were that there is something else to all this COVERT-19 than just a virus. While I did not post the alternatives, I did say 5/6G virus, I thought about a potential threat of a chemical attack (masks), a war (still could happen soon), an asteroid strike (NASA warned just other day of all these asteroids coming toward Earth), and of course the biggest financial rip-off of ordinary Joe of all-time with others happening ever 11-12 years in the past. Whatever! I just knew it was never about COVERT-19 virus ONLY. The BLM B.S. is just another major distraction from what's really going on. Whatever is happening, it is clear we have P.O.S.'s as elected officials of many states. Lots of hypocrites everywhere. See Nevada. See Michigan. See wherever. These fuckers couldn't lead me down the street but they try to tell us how to live every day? penetrate this!
I think people are mature enough (well, maybe most aren't) to not panic if they knew the truth. Unfortunately, I don't blame the GOV if they lie on purpose based on the way I see people act everywhere. They would go nuts if the GOV said, hey got an asteroid likely to strike.
Take whatever for what its worth and try to enjoy every single second of your life and stop penetrating arguing all the time. Each day or second could be our last here who knows!
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09-01-20 11:48 PM #38
It's the word "inconvenience" that gets me, Optional. I think these measures taken are significantly more than an inconvenience.
Originally Posted by Optional
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09-01-20 11:52 PM #39
You know--that word "redneck" is every bit as racist as a few others targeted at other races. Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER
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09-02-20 01:50 AM #40
I don't like curfews and police stopping people to ask why not wearing a mask etc, but it does turn into just an inconvenience when most of the population work together. As there is an end to measures. And people can see that businesses are adjusting and in many cases actually thriving. Originally Posted by deltgen
If I was in a city that was making no progress, I'd probably feel like the measures were a bit useless too.
But feel lucky my city/state took action and had a 6 week period where we were all asked to stay home, and did, and it worked, and we are now rocketing ahead economically and have almost no one dieing here.Points Awarded:
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09-02-20 09:13 AM #41
Donk c d c didn’t change numbers. This quote you are gettin is from Q Anon. I have done at least 1500 death claims. It will always have mitigating factors unless it is homicide or accident. The c.d.c. will read as such death covid 19 underlying factors could be...diabetes mellintus,morbid obesity,rantes,pneumonia just to name a few. Originally Posted by Auto Donk
ps I know a 95 yr old woman with diabetes and a 70 yr old who is morbidly obese.Last edited by chico2663; 09-02-20 at 09:17 AM.
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09-02-20 09:16 AM #42
I have lost 6 cousins who were healthy. Their only problems were they were nurses in New York,New Mexico and Texas. The youngest was 33.
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09-02-20 10:07 AM #43
I think the answer here is some definitely yes. Some definitely no. And most yes but not as quickly. Originally Posted by big joe 1212
If someone is 80 and in poor health and they get covid and die (which is pretty typical for a covid death) I think any objective person has to look at it and say it was a combination of issues that lead to the death.
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09-02-20 10:10 AM #44
At what age do you deem their life was valuable enough to be concerned if COVID knocked them off? Originally Posted by ace7550
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09-02-20 10:21 AM #45
You're absolutely right. It makes perfect sense that the airlines, for instance, would get together eight months ago and say, "We've made more money than we ever have before. Let's find a way we can cut that by 90 percent." Originally Posted by Auto Donk
Like the saying goes, "You can't fix stupid."
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09-02-20 11:08 AM #46
as the evidence pours in, we see that shutting down was a horrible mistake in the first place. This will be the only time I admit that obama did something right. when he totally ignored h1n1 until there were over 10,000 dead and 140,000 hospitalized (a six month period of inaction), and finally declared a "national emergency SIX MONTHS after he and biden knew the virus was here, the economy wasn't destroyed and people weren't losing their jobs left and right like they are now. then biden ordered all testing stopped when the results were showing more and more spread of h1n1. the press wouldn't touch the issue, other than saying we were undergoing a "particularly harsh" flu season, and we carried on. People died. But, you know, people are always dying. Like someone astutely pointed out, the overall death rate in the USA is about what it always is..... Most of the people who died from KUNG FLU already had one foot in the grave. All in all, if we'd treated KUNG FLU the same way obama/biden treated h1n1, we'd be much better off as a nation.
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09-02-20 12:29 PM #47
I agree w/ u, Opti. More than zero is too much. Originally Posted by Optional
At least SOME of these deaths can be attributed to Americans not carrying out the proper health/security protocol.
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09-02-20 06:56 PM #48
While watching our weekly update today from our Governor(Eric Holcomb-R, Indiana), this question was brought up about the 6% figure. It was quickly, with some laughter, shot down as being misinterpreted over social media as to what it meant. I can’t speak for other R governors, but ours has clearly stated many times that this is NOT a hoax by any means and that it is far from being over.
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09-03-20 01:56 AM #49
no, look at the average age a high % of those people who were already around the average life expectancy would've died this year anyways from all their other health issues Originally Posted by vitterd
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09-03-20 09:52 AM #50
It baffles me how retarded Intelligent people become when it comes to commonsense reality.
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09-03-20 10:18 AM #51
So what group of people with the same underlying illness would of died this this year? Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron
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09-03-20 10:32 AM #52
Coming home to the wife after finding out you have an illness that gonna be with ya for the rest of yo life.
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I have diabetes.
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I have high blood pressure
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I have contracted HIV
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I'm a fat ass..
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I have heart disease.
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I'm an old fukk and so are you.
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because of my cancer even though it is in remission.
or
Honey I'm gonna die within this Year because I have every single kind of hepatitis! The whole fukkin family of it!Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 09-03-20 at 10:36 AM.
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09-03-20 10:44 AM #53
yet, every year, millions of people worldwide die due to each of those conditions....... Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER
face it, we know enough about kung flu to know that hardly anyone is dying of it unless they are elderly and have co-morbidities..... those people should take the appropriate precautions, and the rest of us should get back to life.
If biden is successful in stealing the election, kung flu will drop off the radar screen in a new york second..... all the hype here has been solely so the left can lie and promote the narrative that trump failed in his "response to the corona virus".....
which is laughable given what biden had to say on the issue...... particularly rich when the babbling old fool called trump a "hysterical xenophobe" for shutting down travel from china and everything he's said he'd do to fight the virus has already been done by trump.........
but that doesn't stop the media, who now, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, promotes the totally DEBUNKED theory that trump bungled the response.....
love those commercials with cuomo and newsome praising trump's cv response........
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09-03-20 10:51 AM #54
Lol........
Just Lol.......
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09-03-20 10:51 AM #55
There aren’t many intelligent people in this thread. The same dummies that said corona was a flu and not deadly are the same idiots that believe the “ 6 percent” hoax. These are low IQ idiots on a massive scale. They are Trump voters and all of them would not be allowed to step foot on a trump property because he thinks they are scummy hillbillies. Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER
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09-03-20 11:04 AM #56
Yes, again and for the thousandth time, we know and will know when excess mortality is that much more obvious to the layperson, not that he (or few on this board) actually understands statistics and bias. Originally Posted by big joe 1212
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09-03-20 11:07 AM #57
Covid is a disease of the obese and elderly. The USA has that in spades, and does things extraordinary to keep people alive (unlike Sweden, who makes the choice not to spend money on old people, thus their "death rate"). Even with all of these realities, the USA had 3 governors that infected nursing home patients without care (NY, NY, and PA) accounting for more than 50% of all "deaths." Originally Posted by vitterd
It is a newish flu (less virulent for people under 70 than influenza, something we didn't even bother ever talking about) and it is a disease of people who are undisciplined and careless. It is selfish to take freedom and livelihood from others on both of these bases, and cause far more deaths from scaring people to get treatment for other diseases, as well as induce drug and alcohol addiction when you ruin others lives through job loss and businesses.
Get a clue. Yes I'm a doctor. Yes you are a silly internet poster who is a leftist hack.
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09-03-20 11:12 AM #58
Do any of you fools have more than a 6th grade education? Highly doubtful.
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09-03-20 11:37 AM #59
I hope you ain't talkin' to me, Big D Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH
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09-03-20 12:36 PM #60
The only way people would of died from underlying conditions ONLY is if they were already on their death bed at the hospital/hospice before they caught the COVID19 VIRUS.
The ODDS of that are slim to NONE.
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09-03-20 01:10 PM #61
COVID19 is a VIRUS not a fukkin disease.
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09-03-20 07:07 PM #62
Are you God? On what basis do you say someone "died before his time"? This is bizarro world thinking that is the ultimate in entitlement, and lacks any knowledge of life and health. I'm being serious you really need to re-think your stance on life, being grateful rather than owed something that somehow you lay claim to know what the "proper time" is as opposed to people's accountability for their health, or age. Originally Posted by Optional
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09-03-20 07:09 PM #63
Exactly, we have thousands in our body, most of us have HPV, herpes, cocksackie, measles, mumps, etc varicella zoster, influenza. I could go on. Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER
Know what? We don't walk around with masks on. Why?
WE ARE ASYMPTOMATIC
the plandemic / response is a hoax - it makes no sense in any way
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09-03-20 07:43 PM #64
Mono/Epstein Barr Virus is the only super on steroids common virus I know of.
That fukker is chronic on my ass off and on!Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 09-03-20 at 07:46 PM.
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09-03-20 09:49 PM #65
I don't understand this question? Are you asking at what age I start/stop valuing human life? I don't want anyone to die. Young or old. But at the same time I accept that everyone will die, and most people at an old age and of something like cancer/flu/heart failure/covid etc. Originally Posted by Optional
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09-04-20 03:24 AM #66
I am not a primitive who defers to a "god" to make better decisions than me. You should go ahead and split hairs about what is before time or not with your nutty church pals. I am not that backward to care what the pedo cartels say, LOL Originally Posted by StackinGreen
Seemingly people who incite others to not do the right thing by their community DO think they are god like though... "Die worthless old/fat/sick people... dont dare affect my economy to try and save any pain or time for you".
Well you said everyone should agree that an 80 year old life does not have enough value to be concerned about caring for them. Am I paraphrasing too much there? Harsh way to say it but thats what you were tip toeing around saying I thought. Originally Posted by ace7550
Soooo the question is at what age would you think that sick person's life has enough value to care about?
Does a 75 year old with MS deserve to have their life time of taxes spent on their their care and comfort and hopefully keeping hem alive?
What about a 70 year old with diabetes?
Do we reach your line of what live deserves to be saved at 65 years old?
Simple question... at what age would the sick 80 year old you described deserve to have their remaining life valued?
I'm not attacking you, just asking you to think about what you said from both sides of the coin.
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09-04-20 06:23 AM #67
Have to wonder how many dr green has sent to their death bed the way he talks.
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09-04-20 09:38 AM #68
cocksackie?
wtf?
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09-04-20 10:11 AM #69
I value all life. We're being asked as a society to weigh the lives of some of our elderly against our economy and our way of life. These aren't easy choices. I think our reaction to Covid will have long lasting effects on our society that we can not yet imagine. Originally Posted by Optional
Also, I wasn't trying to put a value on any person's life young or old. I was just saying that most covid related deaths are elderly people.
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09-04-20 10:24 AM #70
On the question of value of a human, I recall hearing at some point in the past that each human contains a few bucks worth of material; can't even recall what it was..... gold fillings and brass added to humans over the span of their life can increase that value, obviously, but absent selling some idiot's replacement hip as scrap metal, the general makeup of humans renders them pretty much worthless....
and yes, I know you can get creative with humans, as the germans in wwII did, making soap out of jews, and lampshades, etc. but that sounds like a lot of work.......
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