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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMetsSuck View Post
    7 gun shots ....?
    I guess tackling him to the ground was too much to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrongside View Post
    Okay, but what was that threat that warranted lethal action?
    No, but it does give some insight as to why the guy decided to take the action that he did.

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    This is a prime example of where our country is at.

    One group sees this video and concludes reasonable and justified force.
    Another group sees this video and is sad a person lost his life and wonders if this was an example of excessive force.

    Ain`t nothing going to change the viewpoint of either group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    This is a prime example of where our country is at.

    One group sees this video and concludes reasonable and justified force.
    Another group sees this video and is sad a person lost his life and wonders if this was an example of excessive force.

    Ain`t nothing going to change the viewpoint of either group.
    It's not like his only option was shooting him in the back 7 times. They could have tackled him.

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    Court house now on fire

    Police not doing shit

    Fire Dept no where to be found

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Court house now on fire

    Police not doing shit

    Fire Dept no where to be found
    I wonder if this will give Trump Minnesota and Wisconsin.
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    This guy had a similar run in with the police after they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people at the "Brass Monkey Bar" and when he wouldn't comply they had to sick "Dozer" the K9 on him.

    https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-dozer-helps-subdue-man-who-pulled-gun-at-bar/

    Believing the driver was armed, police conducted a high risk traffic stop, the complaint reads, and ordered Blake to put his hands out the window of the vehicle. Instead, Blake exited the SUV and started walking toward officers and ignored commands to get down on the ground. Officers forced Blake to the ground and ordered him to put his hands behind his back. When Blake refused to comply, K9 Dozer was deployed to force the defendant into compliance.

    While police were at the hospital with Blake so he could be treated for the wound he obtained from K9 Dozer, officers say he refused to answer questions, but he did submit to a legal blood draw to determine his level of intoxication. At the time he was taken into custody, Blake was searched and police say he had a holster on his hip but no gun. A subsequent search of the SUV turned up a black handgun on the floor behind the drivers seat. A box of ammunition was also found, and two loaded magazines were discovered in Blake’s coat.

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    Fire out

    They don't nearly have enough police

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    Breaking every window in sight

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    I wonder if this will give Trump Minnesota and Wisconsin.
    I called MN for Trump in another thread. The riots and liberal MPLS politics had Trump and Joe tied at 48% each which, in reality means 52/46 given rural and suburban demographics.

    Not sure about WI. Michigan damn near recalled their liberal Govenor. I think MI stays red. I'm worried about Florida honestly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    I guess tackling him to the ground was too much to ask.
    Why should they have to? They're police officers, not linebackers.

    I guess following simple instructions that would preclude being shot was too much to ask.

    Once the perp entered the vehicle with his back to the officers, the police were forced into "shoot or be shot" mentality. They had no clue what his next move was going to be, could easily have been grabbing a firearm from under the seat.
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    i always find it comical people talk about restraint. why didn't they tackle him, talk him down, use a taser, shoot him once in the toe, etc.

    if someone broke into their house and there was a bat, knife, broom, mace and gun available.. 99% of people would take that gun and light that intruder up.. without knowing if he even had a weapon. yet they expect police to act different, because it's THEIR life on the line.. not their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    Why should they have to? They're police officers, not linebackers.

    I guess following simple instructions that would preclude being shot was too much to ask.

    Once the perp entered the vehicle with his back to the officers, the police were forced into "shoot or be shot" mentality. They had no clue what his next move was going to be, could easily have been grabbing a firearm from under the seat.
    That's part of the job. There are more options than yelling orders or shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxp View Post
    i always find it comical people talk about restraint. why didn't they tackle him, talk him down, use a taser, shoot him once in the toe, etc.

    if someone broke into their house and there was a bat, knife, broom, mace and gun available.. 99% of people would take that gun and light that intruder up.. without knowing if he even had a weapon. yet they expect police to act different, because it's THEIR life on the line.. not their own.
    False equivalency. There would be no problem if someone broke into a cop's house. If someone is acting suspicious out on the street I can't just shoot them.

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    Too many laws written by people so far removed from day to day life of those they govern.

    Too many jerkoffs want to be cops and can't deal w the community they police because they don't live in it.

    Police reform is as simple as hiring officers and mandating they live in the community they police. Then training them based on the (profile) of the community they serve.

    No good will come from suburban white boys policing blacks in the predominantly black areas much as no good will come from blacks policing the white burbs.

    No female cops either. Just stupid liberal qoute shit. No female can do the physical demands equal to what men can. No female captains or chiefs either....stop the PC bullshit and we'll get law + order.

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    Why don't these criminals just stop and listen to cops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Too many laws written by people so far removed from day to day life of those they govern.

    Too many jerkoffs want to be cops and can't deal w the community they police because they don't live in it.

    Police reform is as simple as hiring officers and mandating they live in the community they police. Then training them based on the (profile) of the community they serve.

    No good will come from suburban white boys policing blacks in the predominantly black areas much as no good will come from blacks policing the white burbs.

    No female cops either. Just stupid liberal qoute shit. No female can do the physical demands equal to what men can. No female captains or chiefs either....stop the PC bullshit and we'll get law + order.
    Kenosha is mostly white but a large black population in adjacent Racine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    That's part of the job. There are more options than yelling orders or shooting.
    Well in some cases shooting is also part of the job or else they wouldn't be equipped with guns.

    If you're an uncooperative suspect who casually walks around, oblivious to orders being given to you at gunpoint, and you turn your back on the gunmen and duck your head into a vehicle... Then guess what? You've voluntarily entered a game of Russian roulette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxp View Post
    i always find it comical people talk about restraint. why didn't they tackle him, talk him down, use a taser, shoot him once in the toe, etc.

    if someone broke into their house and there was a bat, knife, broom, mace and gun available.. 99% of people would take that gun and light that intruder up.. without knowing if he even had a weapon. yet they expect police to act different, because it's THEIR life on the line.. not their own.
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    False equivalency. There would be no problem if someone broke into a cop's house. If someone is acting suspicious out on the street I can't just shoot them.
    well, that ultimately leads to the main issue. this country has a serious problem with respecting police. regardless of whether you agree with them or not on a situation, THEY ARE THE LAW. your life in this country exists on obeying those laws and those people who protect them.

    when a cop tells you to get off the phone, get out of the car, keep your hands where they can see them, get down on the ground, etc. YOU DO IT. it's not up for debate. you're not a kid arguing with your parents. you're not having a disagreement with your spouse. you're not fighting with your friends. you 100% do what a cop tells you. and with that, you'll be just fine.

    if not, you're playing a game you might lose. while the majority of these people do not deserve to die, they have no one to blame but themselves for their actions. all we're doing is creating a more chaotic society, where breaking the law is turning into "not a big deal" any more. in some cases people are straight up murdering others and getting manslaughter charges instead.. 4-10 years in prison. and morons across the country are essentially supporting this type of shit because they want to be 'woke' in completely unrelated examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxp View Post
    well, that ultimately leads to the main issue. this country has a serious problem with respecting police. regardless of whether you agree with them or not on a situation, THEY ARE THE LAW. your life in this country exists on obeying those laws and those people who protect them.

    when a cop tells you to get off the phone, get out of the car, keep your hands where they can see them, get down on the ground, etc. YOU DO IT. it's not up for debate. you're not a kid arguing with your parents. you're not having a disagreement with your spouse. you're not fighting with your friends. you 100% do what a cop tells you. and with that, you'll be just fine.

    if not, you're playing a game you might lose. while the majority of these people do not deserve to die, they have no one to blame but themselves for their actions. all we're doing is creating a more chaotic society, where breaking the law is turning into "not a big deal" any more. in some cases people are straight up murdering others and getting manslaughter charges instead.. 4-10 years in prison. and morons across the country are essentially supporting this type of shit because they want to be 'woke' in completely unrelated examples.
    That sounds like something you would tell a hostage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Court house now on fire

    Police not doing shit

    Fire Dept no where to be found
    So glad Wisconsin could join the party...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    He had a gun. This has been confirmed .
    I'm sure the rioters, errr "protestors", will conveniently gloss over that fact.

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    He is in stable condition his father says.

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    If he lives his family will get millions from gofundme and a lawsuit settlement

    Plus he'll probably pay his way out of the sex assault case by bribing the victim lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    I'm sure the rioters, errr "protestors", will conveniently gloss over that fact.
    Seems like the left doesn’t care about any facts that lead up to any actions the police take. It’s like let people do whatever they want.

    This thinking needs to change and change fast.

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    Oh no, not another "model citizen" lost or seriously injured. When is this going to stop? But, he protests will definitely bring peace for sure, tho, I mean that's what they are, right? Peaceful protests. All this ring familiar to anybody? Same people, same actions, same results. If you can't learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. Oh, sorry, I forgot, the worthwhile history has been cancelled.
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    Do blacks think they should be waved from the law?? I don't get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    I have no idea what the guy was going to get out of his car, but it wasn't a good idea. The guy is still alive by the way.

    2 girls were fighting. He broke it up with his kids in the car. Guess we can’t have a civilian showing up police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxp View Post
    well, that ultimately leads to the main issue. this country has a serious problem with respecting police. regardless of whether you agree with them or not on a situation, THEY ARE THE LAW. your life in this country exists on obeying those laws and those people who protect them.

    when a cop tells you to get off the phone, get out of the car, keep your hands where they can see them, get down on the ground, etc. YOU DO IT. it's not up for debate. you're not a kid arguing with your parents. you're not having a disagreement with your spouse. you're not fighting with your friends. you 100% do what a cop tells you. and with that, you'll be just fine.

    if not, you're playing a game you might lose. while the majority of these people do not deserve to die, they have no one to blame but themselves for their actions. all we're doing is creating a more chaotic society, where breaking the law is turning into "not a big deal" any more. in some cases people are straight up murdering others and getting manslaughter charges instead.. 4-10 years in prison. and morons across the country are essentially supporting this type of shit because they want to be 'woke' in completely unrelated examples.
    Funny you should say that. Have many friends that are police. But about 1% f popo are guys that never played sports and joined just for the power. Seen a guy threaten another on softball field. We had a group of cops have a team in our league. One 5’2” guy threatened to arrest our player after the game. C of p was friend so gave him a call between innings. Guy was pissed at me after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    Funny you should say that. Have many friends that are police. But about 1% f popo are guys that never played sports and joined just for the power. Seen a guy threaten another on softball field. We had a group of cops have a team in our league. One 5’2” guy threatened to arrest our player after the game. C of p was friend so gave him a call between innings. Guy was pissed at me after.
    LOL

    Another episode of:

    Story time with chico!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Cop hit in the head with a brick



    Shoot to kill

    They need to start arming cops with uzis now to spray those fools

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    Joe Biden:

    Yesterday in Kenosha, Wisconsin, Jacob Blake was shot seven times in the back as police attempted to restrain him from getting into his car. His children watched from inside the car and bystanders watched in disbelief. And this morning, the nation wakes up yet again with grief and outrage that yet another Black American is a victim of excessive force. This calls for an immediate, full and transparent investigation and the officers must be held accountable.

    These shots pierce the soul of our nation. Jill and I pray for Jacob’s recovery and for his children.

    Equal justice has not been real for Black Americans and so many others. We are at an inflection point. We must dismantle systemic racism. It is the urgent task before us. We must fight to honor the ideals laid in the original American promise, which we are yet to attain: That all men and women are created equal, but more importantly that they must be treated equally.

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    Suicide by cop

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