[TheMoneyShot]

I'm in Michigan. I feel a little safer being boxed in... at least something is working out.

Now, every state needs to do this.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

[ByeShea]

I'm in Michigan. I feel a little safer being boxed in... at least something is working out.

Michigan and Louisiana are feeling very snug and comfy today. Look for an uptick in real estate values and mental wellness in these two states.

[rkelly110]

I'm in PA. We are less than a handful that will accept, thanks to my tax and spend Dem Gov.

[TheMoneyShot]

Laugh all you guys want. Being in Michigan... we always make the wrong moves and never have anything to look forward to.

[Ian]

Your post is incorrect. The Governors of 27 states have stated they won't accept Syrian refugees, but they have no legal authority to do so.

This is grandstanding, pure and simple.

[TheMoneyShot]

Your post is incorrect. The Governors of 27 states have stated they won't accept Syrian refugees, but they have no legal authority to do so.

This is grandstanding, pure and simple.

How is my post incorrect? States can fight Federal Law. Clearly the governors are not welcoming refugees.

Again... call it whatever you want. But it clearly shows that States are telling the Feds... you guys are full of sh#$ and it ain't happening.

[TheSideBet]

One male refugee who was released in Louisiana recently has already gone missing. FBI asked where he went off to after leaving the charity home in Baton Rouge and were given the answer 'We don't ask where they go, not out job to monitor there whereabouts'. SO much for that 100% vetting and tracking narrative the White House is giving us?

[Auto Donk]

kinda disappointing for me.... i was lookin' forward to baggin me a couple of dusty nuts cab drivers this huntin' season....

[JMon]

Kansas is not accepting.

[ByeShea]

SO much for that 100% vetting and tracking narrative the White House is giving us?

Obama should do the right thing and resign. He'd be more effective organizing ISIS communities in Syria.

[daneblazer]

Ian is correct. Refugee program is funded with federal dollars. States can voice their disapproval, but Obama can over ride it and put them where he wants. He may choose to put them in states that don't wish to accept them. Ultimately it's his call

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

I'm in Michigan. I feel a little safer being boxed in... at least something is working out.

Now, every state needs to do this.

You feel safe? I thought Dearborn Michigan was the capital for arab americans

[teaserpleaser]

You feel safe? I thought Dearborn Michigan was the capital for arab americans

It is that's why I'm Who wants to bomb michigan though I'm sure it's pretty far down on their list of targets so there's safety there I guess but not because they aren't there.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

It is that's why I'm Who wants to bomb michigan though I'm sure it's pretty far down on their list of targets so there's safety there I guess but not because they aren't there.

not that they want to bomb Michigan but that it has a very large muslim population already

[teaserpleaser]

Yeah I was agreeing with you...I was scratching my head about him feeling safe because they're already there.

[retard]

Laugh all you guys want. Being in Michigan... we always make the wrong moves and never have anything to look forward to.

Michigan already accepted the most out of any state.

[daneblazer]

We've accepted around 100,000 Iraqi and afghan refugees and not a one has been suspected of terrorism. Don't think the terrorists would have gone this route already? Our screening is so much different from Europe

This whole refugee thing is over blown and creating panic amongst the masses for votes. The governors know Obama has the final say so at this point It's political posturing

[big joe 1212]

We shouldn't be taking any refugees period! I don't care where they come from. We get enough already from Mexico.

[daneblazer]

We shouldn't be taking any refugees period! I don't care where they come from. We get enough already from Mexico.

those aren't refugees

[big joe 1212]

those aren't refugees

no shit

[The Kraken]

I'm in a state that is currently taking refugees, no problems here.

This reminds me of the ebola outbreak. All the rightwingers here got all hyped up by Foxnews, started spewing how anyone that had been to Africa recently should be quarantined or net let back in the US, they got all worked up over the potential of thousands of Americans dying from ebola, and it was all OBAMAS fault

Then two people died and no one was heard from again admitting how wrong they were. FTR, lightning killed 23 people last year

Here's the problem, the opinions on ebola were based out of ignorance, no understanding of how ebola is contracted and spread. They were just regurgitating what they heard on Foxnews.

This is the same thing. People being ignorant about a situation and having an opinion.

In a few months when everything has settled, no attacks happen and Fox quits using this as a political piece, everyone will move on and get worked up by the next big thing that obamas fukking up

[TheMoneyShot]

You feel safe? I thought Dearborn Michigan was the capital for arab americans

It is that's why I'm Who wants to bomb michigan though I'm sure it's pretty far down on their list of targets so there's safety there I guess but not because they aren't there.

not that they want to bomb Michigan but that it has a very large muslim population already

Yes, I use to work in Dearborn back in 1998-1999. It was slowly turning at the time. I use to work at Chase and Warren Ave. Anyone who lives near there in Michigan... knows what I'm talking about. Back then... it was slowly turning. But Warren Ave was like DOWNTOWN for Arabs. There were still about 60% white business owners at the time... they all sold slowly... one by one.

I took a drive down Warren Ave about 5 years ago... and there really isn't any English down the road. Only Arabic writing everywhere.

Again... I'm not a racist. Very friendly to get along with... that's why it never bothered me.

I live about 10 minutes away from Dearborn now.

What was odd... the day after the Paris attacks... a home 6 houses down from mine had like 12 luxury cars around their property and down the street. In my subdivision... the race is like... 50% white... 25% black... 25% Asian, Arabic etc. When I was driving away that night... there were 3 arabic women all dressed with only their eyes showing. I figured perhaps.... the women were cooking for their men? I heard that's what they do.... the wives meet up... and cook for large gatherings for their men... and then leave.

I spoke to one of my friends who works for Homeland Security... he said give me their address and let me do a check just in case. I did that yesterday.

It was just odd because.... I've owned this home for 7 years... never did I see any gathering that large on my street for one home in my life.

[The Kraken]

Yes, I use to work in Dearborn back in 1998-1999. It was slowly turning at the time. I use to work at Chase and Warren Ave. Anyone who lives near there in Michigan... knows what I'm talking about. Back then... it was slowly turning. But Warren Ave was like DOWNTOWN for Arabs. There were still about 60% white business owners at the time... they all sold slowly... one by one.

I took a drive down Warren Ave about 5 years ago... and there really isn't any English down the road. Only Arabic writing everywhere.

Again... I'm not a racist. Very friendly to get along with... that's why it never bothered me.

I live about 10 minutes away from Dearborn now.

What was odd... the day after the Paris attacks... a home 6 houses down from mine had like 12 luxury cars around their property and down the street. In my subdivision... the race is like... 50% white... 25% black... 25% Asian, Arabic etc. When I was driving away that night... there were 3 arabic women all dressed with only their eyes showing. I figured perhaps.... the women were cooking for their men? I heard that's what they do.... the wives meet up... and cook for large gatherings for their men... and then leave.

I spoke to one of my friends who works for Homeland Security... he said give me their address and let me do a check just in case. I did that yesterday.

It was just odd because.... I've owned this home for 7 years... never did I see any gathering that large on my street for one home in my life.

Unbelievable

Now we have posters turning in a group of people for....... Wait for it..... More than one Muslim occupying a household at a time

Tell your buddy to go ahead and skip the investigation. Any DA would simply dismiss the findings knowing that there was no probable cause to start investigating them in the first place. Wearing a hijab and convening with friends isn't illegal in this country.

Maybe I should contact the DOJ, let them get your IP address from SBRJOHN, get your buddys name and then they could begin investigating him. Wouldn't go too well for him

[TheMoneyShot]

Unbelievable

Now we have posters turning in a group of people for....... Wait for it..... More than one Muslim occupying a household at a time

Tell your buddy to go ahead and skip the investigation. Any DA would simply dismiss the findings knowing that there was no probable cause to start investigating them in the first place. Wearing a hijab and convening with friends isn't illegal in this country.

Maybe I should contact the DOJ, let them get your IP address from SBRJOHN, get your buddys name and then they could begin investigating him. Wouldn't go too well for him

Krak settle down. Ever heard of precautionary? He's the one that asked me for the address. We were just shooting the sh#$ back and forth. I don't see anything wrong with it. That's what it's come down to.

It's running an address. Not a full scale SWAT on his home. Geeezus

[AchillesTG]

Media and Politicians firing up the fear monger machines, just like with ebola and a mosque near the 9/11 site.

How about a few facts!

The U.S. system of refugee resettlement has a long history of successfully integrating refugees, having welcomed more than 3 million refugees since 1975: the vast majority of refugees are grateful to their adopted country for receiving them. Those selected for resettlement are the victims of governmental persecution and/or terrorism, not the perpetrators, and they tend to be the fiercest critics of extremist groups and tyrannical governments, having suffered at their hands. Throughout this history, there has never been a terrorist attack successfully perpetrated on U.S. soil by an individual who had been admitted to the country as a refugee. In the exceptionally rare cases where someone admitted as a refugee has been suspected of ties to groups interested in harming the United States, it has often been other former refugees from within the same ethnic community who have alerted law enforcement.

[TheSideBet]

I heard the same story you guys did yesterday that no refugee has ever been arrested and so forth but today we are seeing new reports that contradict that claim. Who knows who to believe at this point.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-terror.html

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...mid-ISIS-fears




My personal opinion is since the politicians are saying they can fly vet and vouch for every single refugee they bring here but the FBI, CIA and others who do the vetting say they cannot, give me the sense to just say let's not rule it out but instead take a deep breath and slow it down until things pan out. I personally hate knee jerk reactions to anything.

[daneblazer]

What if...the refugees were confederate refugees?

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

M hroughout this history, there has never been a terrorist attack successfully perpetrated on U.S. soil by an individual who had been admitted to the country as a refugee.

the Tsarnaev parents and Dzhokhar went to the United States on a 90-day tourist **** Anzor Tsarnaev applied for asylum, citing fears of deadly persecution due to his ties to Chechnya.

[daneblazer]

the Tsarnaev parents and Dzhokhar went to the United States on a 90-day tourist **** Anzor Tsarnaev applied for asylum, citing fears of deadly persecution due to his ties to Chechnya.

again, they weren't refugees

[AchillesTG]

A debate over Syrian asylum seekers in the wake of the Paris attacks spurred social media rumors that the Tsarnaev brothers were refugees, but the family actually entered the U.S. on tourist visas in 2001.

[daneblazer]

Asylees are different than refugees. You can have a layover in the US, go to an embassy, and ask for asylum. Refugees are fleeing their country and are brought in after a long screening process.

[TheMoneyShot]

I just don't understand the refugee situation????

What is a refugee?

True definition?

Someone who just leaves their homeland to come to the USA for???? For??? WHAT?

It sounds like a damn nursery school in the USA.

[daneblazer]

This is probably the best way I can describe it…

A refugee is defined in international law and in the Refugee Act of 1980 as a
person who is outside his or her country of nationality and who is unable or unwilling to
return to that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution, based on
race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group.
Refugees apply for and receive this status prior to entry into the United States, unlike asylees
who acquire their status after arrival in the United States. Processing usually takes place in a
third country where they have claimed temporary asylum after fleeing their homes. In some
countries designated by the President each year, such as in Cuba, Vietnam, Iraq, and some
countries of the former Soviet Union, individuals may apply for processing in their own
country. Once approved overseas by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS),
refugees are admitted under Section 207 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

Asylees…
The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) may grant asylum status
only to someone who is physically present in the United States or at a port of entry. Asylum
status is granted under Section 208 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), pursuant to
the Refugee Act of 1980. Asylees meet the refugee definition, that is, they have
demonstrated unwillingness or inability to return to their country of origin because of a
history of persecution and/or well-founded fear of persecution due to their race, nationality,
religion, political opinion, or membership in a social group. To claim asylum a person must
already be in the United States or at a U.S. port of entry and undergo an interview with the
USCIS or an immigration judge.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

coming over on a tourist v-i-s-a and claiming asylum Vs being brought somewhere as a refugee is arguing semantics