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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    The two are related. Mormons are known for their racist view that blacks are inferior. That's why Utah is consistently among the whitest teams in the NBA. Williams is 'light', and so is Devon Harris that is coming in now. My guess is that Williams was becoming a little too 'black' to their liking. It is known he had a run-in with Sloan on the night before the coach resigned.

    Your right. The Jazz don't seem to like "black" players much. Even Carlos Boozer was very light skinned. I told a buddie of mine if Gordon Hayward was still on the board that the Jazz was going to draft him because he was white and they sure did. The Jazz black players are really very "white" as far as appearance and how non-confrontational they seem to be.

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    Uh....he actually wanted to go to the Nets?

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    holy shit fuk yeah!!!!!!!!!

    my dick is soo hard and i havent even taken viagra before

    i need to bust a few nuts in the next hour

    utah have fun with fuking no bball iq devin harris, who will never improve

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyon804 View Post
    Your right. The Jazz don't seem to like "black" players much. Even Carlos Boozer was very light skinned. I told a buddie of mine if Gordon Hayward was still on the board that the Jazz was going to draft him because he was white and they sure did. The Jazz black players are really very "white" as far as appearance and how non-confrontational they seem to be.
    Millsap and Jefferson are black as night.

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    Good luck trying to get him to stay in Jersey. The Knicks weren't getting D-Will. The package the Nets sent is better than the package the Knicks sent to Denver, and why bother when D-Will and Paul will be free agents soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperDapper View Post
    Millsap and Jefferson are black as night.
    there fuking darkness, pitch black, dark magic evil looking moutherfukers

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    jazz are complete mess.. go knicks!!! melo amare and billups poss championship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperDapper View Post
    Millsap and Jefferson are black as night.


    They are dark but look at there character. They are not disruptive players. They are yes men that don't require and entourage. The both of them are simply basketball players. How many black players have you seen that played for Utah getting technical fouls? Not very often because they don't want that kind of player.

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    even without murphy...they have 55 million in salary....with the new CBA agreement, it becomes almost impossible to aquire the 3rd superstar...same goes for the knicks.
    Like i said. Continuing to post blatantly wrong information time after time will not change the fact that its wrong and you're clueless. Not only does it appear that you failed your math class (no surprise really since you think you make $1k bets) but you also fail at logic.

    Nets have 39M on the cap for 2011, I guess you remembered to add Derons salary and forgot to take off the players he was traded for.....ehh nope, not even that makes sense cause it would add up to 52.6. I guess you're just a clueless tool that likes to make shit up.

    Not that 2011 cap situation even matters since Howard will be a free agent in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyon804 View Post
    Your right. The Jazz don't seem to like "black" players much. Even Carlos Boozer was very light skinned. I told a buddie of mine if Gordon Hayward was still on the board that the Jazz was going to draft him because he was white and they sure did. The Jazz black players are really very "white" as far as appearance and how non-confrontational they seem to be.
    Neither do the Pacers. They unloaded Troy Murphy, ruining my dream of having an all "White guy" lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Neither do the Pacers. They unloaded Troy Murphy, ruining my dream of having an all "White guy" lineup.


    Isn't this guy your franchise player when Granger leaves? I realize most people look dark when Larry Bird is standing next to you, but damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBeatBodog View Post
    Not really extensive analysis. According to 82games.com, Nash is limiting opponents to an eFG% of .462. Pretty good, especially when you compare it to his own number of .565 and Williams' opponent eFG% of .480. For a player who can't shoot, Rondo has an impressive eFG%: .541. In fact, it's higher than Williams at .524. And anyway, what about the other guys I mentioned? No argument that DWill is better than them I guess.
    stats don't always tell u the whole truth. nash is my favorite PG but hes not a good defensive player and i still would rather have williams over nash. u gonna tell me rondo can shoot cuz he has a high FG%? the dudes FG% is mostly from layups. i bet dwight howard is the best shooter in the NBA, his FG% is over 60%.

    rose is an mvp candidate, if u wanna call him the best PG, cant really argue
    same with chris paul, hes been the best the last couple years

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    Quote Originally Posted by demens View Post
    Like i said. Continuing to post blatantly wrong information time after time will not change the fact that its wrong and you're clueless. Not only does it appear that you failed your math class (no surprise really since you think you make $1k bets) but you also fail at logic. Nets have 39M on the cap for 2011, I guess you remembered to add Derons salary and forgot to take off the players he was traded for.....ehh nope, not even that makes sense cause it would add up to 52.6. I guess you're just a clueless tool that likes to make shit up. Not that 2011 cap situation even matters since Howard will be a free agent in 2012.


    1> i dont make 1k bets...those are for chumps like you...I make 5k bets...sometimes 10k...just ask bookmaker...they have me as VIP.

    2> I have studied more math than all of your family combined. I have more science and math degrees than you can imagine....and I work for fortune 100 companies. Lets leave at that.

    3> I dont have time all day to baby-sit you in SBR forum.

    4> The salaries add upto more than 55 million..in fact its 58 million...check this dumb ass:-

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6150858

    5> Dwight Howard will never come to New Jersy. No player in their right mind would want to come to new jersy.

    6> Deron will run once his contract expires. Jay z magic wont work on deron just like it didnt work for carmelo. Deron will get sick of being a sub .500 team. He was a good PG for team which was great with boozer, korver, kirlenko, millsap and jefferson. But deron got all the credit. When he comes to nets, he will realise how much jazz meant to him. Going from an elite team to the scrub of the NBA. He will never be an all-star again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Jazz getting worse by the day.

    Looks like they should see if Stockton, and Malone will come out of retirement.
    This league is a joke now, 0 integrity

    NBA=MLB

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    Chris Paul hasn't played like the best PG for 2 years. Hands down no argument DWill was the best point guard in the NBA last year. Tons of experts agree with this. He is not having a GREAT season (despite putting up a career high in points and shooting 46%, his assits are down by a fraction and more importantly his team is not winning (if you wanna call 31-26 not winning)) so i can concede that maybe DRose has taken over that spot.

    But anyone acting like its not even debatable is just too wrong to talk with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Neither do the Pacers. They unloaded Troy Murphy, ruining my dream of having an all "White guy" lineup.
    A lil reverse "Glory Road" action eh?

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    4> The salaries add upto more than 55 million..in fact its 58 million...check this dumb ass:-

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6150858

    DId you even listen to the video in the link you posted, you inbred you?

    A) They have THIS YEARS CAP up on the screen.
    B) It freaking says 58M not 55, you can't even get that right.
    C) If you actually listened to what Tom Penn said, its clear as ******* day, he says they will have 15-20M to sing more players next year or the one after that.

    VIP hillbilly, go read a coloring book or something you retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demens View Post
    Chris Paul hasn't played like the best PG for 2 years. Hands down no argument DWill was the best point guard in the NBA last year. Tons of experts agree with this. He is not having a GREAT season (despite putting up a career high in points and shooting 46%, his assits are down by a fraction and more importantly his team is not winning (if you wanna call 31-26 not winning)) so i can concede that maybe DRose has taken over that spot.

    But anyone acting like its not even debatable is just too wrong to talk with.
    It's definitely debatable. But Paul was hurt last year, but he started the all star game this year for a reason. D Will will play much better in Jersey where he won't be contained to running offensive sets.

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    With the new CBA agreement, that 15-20M will be something like 8-10M you dumb ass.

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    3-4 more wins this yr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperDapper View Post
    It's definitely debatable. But Paul was hurt last year, but he started the all star game this year for a reason. D Will will play much better in Jersey where he won't be contained to running offensive sets.
    Starting at the all-star game is meaningless, it proves that Yao Ming was injured thats all. All-NBA teams are more of a factor when judging players imo.
    Last edited by demens; 02-23-11 at 04:21 PM.

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    Way to pull a completely random new argument Inbred.

    Got tired of being made out to look like the uneducated, uninformed hillbilly that you are so decided to post some new blatantly wrong info. You did not even know wtf you were watching you too yet now you're making predictions on what the new CBA will be, loll. Do you even know what CBA stands for?

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    it would be great for da nba

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    Quote Originally Posted by demens View Post
    Starting at the all-star game is meaningless, it proves that Yao Ming was injured thats all. All-NBA teams are more of a factor when judging players imo.
    They do, but do you really think any of those starters didn't deserve to be starting besides Duncan?

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    This is a better deal for the Nets than the one they had for Melo. They gave up less and got a player of equal caliber. Plus, PG is becoming a more important position all the time it seems.

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    deron williams single handedly destroyed this franchise

    why did this suckern not move a few weeks ago? so utah might kept sloan...

    what a bitch

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    It doesn't matter how much cap space New York Jr. has, even when they move to Brooklyn, the stars don't want to play there. Unfortunately, the fan don't want to accept it, but the Nets are playing on the same level as Cleveland, Indiana, Sacramento etc. They're just not one of the glamour teams that the big names want to go to.

    The only thing that will keep DWill there is if the money's too great to leave or the new CBA has a franchise tag.

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    I think its a good trade. Deron Williams is one the best pg in the nba.

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    Who did they trade Deron Williams to? Does this have any significant implacations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperDapper View Post
    They do, but do you really think any of those starters didn't deserve to be starting besides Duncan?
    In fairness to both sides of the argument, I guess the starters that actually started all deserved to be there, though I believe Yao Ming was voted in as the starting Center in the West ....

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    good never like the jazz. always glad when they are going down hill

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    west getting watered down. stoudemire, meng out, mcgrady when he was something, carmelo, williams, boozer. missing any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperDapper View Post
    They do, but do you really think any of those starters didn't deserve to be starting besides Duncan?
    DWill 21/10 46% record 31-26
    Paul 16/10 48% record 33-25

    Not saying either one deserved it more then the other, i think maybe the expectation for Jazz were a bit higher and NO lower. But either way, All-star doesn't matter much.

    Chris Paul is simply not the same player he was 2 years ago after his knee injuries. Williams is better imo. Its arguable, not saying and it isn't but i'd rather have Williams. That would be my choice before this deal was made, even though i hate that he was responsible for Sloan, for healthy reason DWill is just better going forward.

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    Damn dude, I may need to start tailing your plays from now on. You have a thread where you post your plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post


    1> i dont make 1k bets...those are for chumps like you...I make 5k bets...sometimes 10k...just ask bookmaker...they have me as VIP.

    2> I have studied more math than all of your family combined. I have more science and math degrees than you can imagine....and I work for fortune 100 companies. Lets leave at that.

    3> I dont have time all day to baby-sit you in SBR forum.

    4> The salaries add upto more than 55 million..in fact its 58 million...check this dumb ass:-

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6150858

    5> Dwight Howard will never come to New Jersy. No player in their right mind would want to come to new jersy.

    6> Deron will run once his contract expires. Jay z magic wont work on deron just like it didnt work for carmelo. Deron will get sick of being a sub .500 team. He was a good PG for team which was great with boozer, korver, kirlenko, millsap and jefferson. But deron got all the credit. When he comes to nets, he will realise how much jazz meant to him. Going from an elite team to the scrub of the NBA. He will never be an all-star again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasfred View Post
    It doesn't matter how much cap space New York Jr. has, even when they move to Brooklyn, the stars don't want to play there. Unfortunately, the fan don't want to accept it, but the Nets are playing on the same level as Cleveland, Indiana, Sacramento etc. They're just not one of the glamour teams that the big names want to go to.

    The only thing that will keep DWill there is if the money's too great to leave or the new CBA has a franchise tag.
    Nets aren't a glamor team, i accept that. But their owner is as glamor as they come and he is doing his best to change that. Maybe he'll be able to accomplish that maybe he wont, but good things are happening to favor his quest and this is one of them.

    Unless you have a crystal ball that tells you the future, you really can't say whether stars will want to come play in Brooklyn if the team is good.

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