[ZetaPsi808]

Try to use top A or B rated books that many posters use.

there is no point in posting an arb you got using some obscure book that almost none of us use like canbet.com (C-)

it is very simple, just include the book, spread, and line.

For Example: Cardinals ML -132 The Greek

even if you did not arb the bet, but notice 5Dimes posted an off number, let us know

this is a great tool to clear rollover too. say you deposit 3k at the greek. you could put 2,640 on cardinals -132 at the greek, and then put 2,000 on the angels +134 at matchbook. now you only profit $40, but you have cleared a nice chunk of rollover risk-free.

i recommend using this tool to arb profitably. http://sbrforum.com/Betting+Tools/Ar...alculator.aspx

Also, i dont want any drama or BS in this thread. this is strictly business only

[Fishhead]

Good thread, hope we can nail a few.

Have a few solid one'e in the bag already.........the RANGERS RUNLINE being the largest.

[sharpcat]

98% of my arbs are hours apart

[minet123]

98% of my arbs are hours apart

[Fishhead]

98% of my arbs are hours apart

[Fishhead]

We don't need immediate ARBS to make this work.

[sharpcat]

but I take many sides a day fish and not all of them move the way I would like them to.

[minet123]

We don't need immediate ARBS to make this work.

Fishy this thread will be hijacked by the normal Players talk bs
WE NEED OUR OWN SUB FORUM
or
Sub forum in each individual sports forum

[sharpcat]

Fishy this thread will be hijacked by the normal Players talk bs
WE NEED OUR OWN SUB FORUM
or
Sub forum in each individual sports forum

As long as you get down before the herd does you will benefit

[Fishhead]

Actually, not that big of deal.

But nice to just hear opinions from those I respect...........be it an immediate arb or one we can take a lean on.

[Fishhead]

This RANGERS game is treating me oh so nice..............

[ZetaPsi808]

rebate wager brewers ML +166

[ZetaPsi808]

betphoenix 4 pm brewers ML +128

[ZetaPsi808]

phoenix is a good site to arb

[ZetaPsi808]

Legendz 10:05 pm Angels ML +100

[Chi_archie]

good man Zeta

[ZetaPsi808]

also phoenix has almost the same line at -101.

matchbook has blue jays +104 for a nice arb oppurtunity. throw 2 grand on each side

[ZetaPsi808]

Legendz 10:05 pm Angels ML +100

i hope you guys nailed this easy winner.

[bombCanada]

98% of my arbs are hours apart

So what you're saying is you pick a line you think is going to move, you make your wager, and then you wait, and you watch, and wait some more, and then you play the other side. If it moves one way you win, the other way, not so much. The difference between this and what most guys do is that you effectively cash out before the game even starts. It's the old buy low sell high deal, or even the old sell high buy low deal. Either way you have to end up with a + number that's bigger than the - number, and you have to do the math right (using the calculator).

I guess you need to do this on high visibility games, or on John Morrison system games, things where the public or some other large money will all go heavily on one side of a game. Is this how you pick your games?

[ZetaPsi808]

sometimes you try to predict which way the line will move. that takes guesswork and often times you will be wrong. but when you are right, the profits can be decent, like 8 to 10% on each game.

what i do is post an offer on team A -125 on matchbook 1,250 to win 1000. meanwhile i see another book has their opponent, team B at +128.

as soon as my offer on team A is fully matched, i bet team B +128 at the other sportsbook for 1,000 to win 1,280.

now i am essentially freerolling for $30.

[bombCanada]

also phoenix has almost the same line at -101. matchbook has blue jays +104 for a nice arb oppurtunity. throw 2 grand on each side

So lets see here: LAA 2000 to win 2000, TOR 1961 to win 2040. LAA wins, +39. TOR wins, +40.

Not the biggest payday in the world, but it is guaranteed. Ties up a huge amount of bankroll, also. The risk is in the timing of making the bets as well as being able to get a book to take bets that big.

Do you typically bet both sides at the same time, or do you really put down one side and then bite your nails for hours before you put down the other side?

[bombCanada]

sometimes you try to predict which way the line will move. that takes guesswork and often times you will be wrong. but when you are right, the profits can be decent, like 8 to 10% on each game.

what i do is post an offer on team A -125 on matchbook 1,250 to win 1000. meanwhile i see another book has their opponent, team B at +128.

as soon as my offer on team A is fully matched, i bet team B +128 at the other sportsbook for 1,000 to win 1,280.

now i am essentially freerolling for $30.

Ha! you answered my question while I was busy typing it. Funny stuff at 4am.

Thanks for the explanation.

How many different books do you use? Clearly matchbook is essential in this. And what's your total bankroll? 2k at each of 3 or 4 books?

[ZetaPsi808]

So lets see here: LAA 2000 to win 2000, TOR 1961 to win 2040. LAA wins, +39. TOR wins, +40.

that works perfect.

arbing only ties up your bankroll at the books for about 3 hours when the game is being played. it is not like betting 2k on a season long NFL prop where you have to wait 6 months.

matchbook is mandatory for arbing b/c they have 1 cent lines up to +/- 200, and then 2 cent lines after that (-202, +200).

arbing may lead to going broke at book A. so u take a withdrawal from book B b/c it has such an inflated balance, and then get a reload bonus at the book A that u previously went broke at.

if you are arbing to profit, i recommend betting at least 1K on each side. so i guess you would need about 3K at each book, and about 4 books.

if you are arbing to clear rollover, any bankroll amount is fine

[bombCanada]

So right this very minute, assuming sbrodds is correct, I see BOS +145 at matchbook and TAM -144 at 5dimes. Seems like I'd snag that 5dimes action first and wait for the matchbook line to tighten up, or for the odds on TAM to become more expensive and take BOS along with it.

What tool(s) do you use to follow line moves? Unclear to me that sbrodds is always as accurate or as timely as one might wish.

[ZetaPsi808]

the best books for arbing are pinnacle (non-US), bookmaker and greek for pounding opening lines before they move, and matchbook for 1 cent lines.

betjamaica, betphoenix/wagerchief (owned by the same company) and 5dimes are also good for arbing b/c they have reduced juice (dime lines).

[bombCanada]

that works perfect.

arbing only ties up your bankroll at the books for about 3 hours when the game is being played. it is not like betting 2k on a season long NFL prop where you have to wait 6 months.

well, maybe 18 hours if you're doing it at 4am.

matchbook is mandatory for arbing b/c they have 1 cent lines up to +/- 200, and then 2 cent lines after that (-202, +200).

I do almost everything at matchbook now. Why pay more?

arbing may lead to going broke at book A. so u take a withdrawal from book B b/c it has such an inflated balance, and then get a reload bonus at the book A that u previously went broke at.

This had occurred to me, and I had not thought about the reload bonus (reloading is not something I do all that often). You have to be fairly confident in book B's timely payments to do this on a regular basis. Either you spend a lot of time running to the bank or you use wire transfers. Or you live outside the US and moving the money is a lot easier.

if you are arbing to profit, i recommend betting at least 1K on each side. so i guess you would need about 3K at each book, and about 4 books.

if you are arbing to clear rollover, any bankroll amount is fine

I follow.

Do you ever have trouble getting books to take action of this size?

Presumably the markets which are most liquid on matchbook (MLB in my observation) are the best for arbing to work?

[ZetaPsi808]

98% of my arbs are hours apart

if you bet the tampa -144 at 5dimes now and wait for the matchbook line to tighten up by the afternoon, you might wake up later and see... oh sh*t, boston is now only +135 at matchbook. the line moved against you and you are screwed.

i use a different strategy than sharpcat. i will snag that +145 money at matchbook, and then immediately bet the best number available on boston, which is 5dimes -144 at the moment

[ZetaPsi808]

yeah almost all books have limits. 5dimes has $500 limits for reduced juice, phoenix, wagerchief i think have 1k limits on mlb ML. jamaica has a 2k limit on mlb ML, bookmaker has 5k limit. i dont think the greek has any limits tho, as they welcome professional action.

matchbook obviously has no limits. also matchbook lines move up and down like the stock market. often times i will post an off-market offer hoping for some idiot/homer to accept my offer. occasionally it gets matched too.

[bombCanada]

if you bet the tampa -144 at 5dimes now and wait for the matchbook line to tighten up by the afternoon, you might wake up later and see... oh sh*t, boston is now only +135 at matchbook. the line moved against you and you are screwed.

i use a different strategy than sharpcat. i will snag that +145 money at matchbook, and then immediately bet the best number available on boston, which is 5dimes -144 at the moment

Yes I understand the danger in waiting. A good example of that might be the White Sox a day or two ago, who were supposed to be a big John Morrison C bet, and instead of going from -150 to -170 it went to -135 (numbers from memory). But, if you don't panic and simply take the other side, you also cap your loss.

And I also see that you might do arbs in dribs and drabs rather than all at once if the size on matchbook isn't that great. You end up with some sort of blended line on each side of the arb. You just have to have the time to sit in front of the computer and harvest the arb a bit at a time.

Over the years I've been able to do a version of this using matchbook during football games. If you get a good game with lots of scoring, the line swings can be wide later in the game.

[Fishhead]

i hope you guys nailed this easy winner.

I certainly did!!!

This was a great late night gift, this after middling the hoops total.


GREAT DAY YESTERDAY........LET'S GET STARTED BRIGHT AND EARLY THIS MORNING!

[Fishhead]

Zeta, not sure if you noticed, but there was a nice scalp on the RUNLINE with that game also.............MORE THAN THE MONEYLINE!!

That LAA game lastnight was a tremendous latenight gift...........those are always great to see.


Runlines are especially nice to score at MB because they pay one a commission if you put up an offer and it is accepted, unlike the moneyline...............runline scalps are a source that many gamblers forget about when scalping(as most places have 20 cent lines on these), but I love them and find many arbs with them on a weekly basis!!


HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE!!

[Fishhead]

Laid -107 with the Cards this morning.............


Please note, with so many good INSTANT arbs lately, not taking nearly as many leads, but this one I like.

[bombCanada]

Laid -107 with the Cards this morning.............

Please note, with so many good INSTANT arbs lately, not taking nearly as many leads, but this one I like.

Nice catch on STL as I see lines are creeping back up toward the open.

By INSTANT arbs you mean you're able to execute both sides immediately?

[Fishhead]

Nice catch on STL as I see lines are creeping back up toward the open.

By INSTANT arbs you mean you're able to execute both sides immediately?

Yes, or at least know that even if I wait a few, it is still going to be a certain win.


Lastnight on the ANGELS game that was mentioned...............the ANGELS were +101 at one book and the other side was +108 at Matchbook and one could have taken this immediately.......the runline was even as good or better with an instant scalp.

With the above STL wager, at the present time, I could lose money if the line doesn't move in the direction that I'm anticipating.

[Fishhead]

Laid -107 with the Cards this morning.............


Please note, with so many good INSTANT arbs lately, not taking nearly as many leads, but this one I like.

Moving up slightly