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    JJ top flight athlete
    Simple choice for him to avoid, instead he’s quickly becoming unhealthy because of the vaccine.....

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    Fishhead get vaccine or I report you LVDH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Not 100% protection though but statistically it is a lot less, correct.
    My point here is that if a vaccinated player isn't sick, don't fukkin test him.

    What's the point of getting the vaccination (own personal protection aside) if you can still get screwed professionally?

    I get contact tracing protocol, I get isolation for positive and sick patients, but testing vaccinated players seem unnecessary and seems to lead to more problems than just letting vaccinated people carry on, positive or not.

    They should be rewarding the vaccinated in the major leagues, not punishing them.

    Feels like they are getting punished for behaving like a vaccinated individual.

    Feels like a mixed message is being sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fishhead get vaccine or I report you LVDH
    Lol

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    The thing is they won't stop testing in pro sports until everyone around the team has been vaccinated. That's the issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Not sure how that helps because Armia had both doses of Pfizer and still got it.

    This won't go away until the left stops overreacting.
    Fredo is the dumbest poster here. Worse than thom.
    He is pounding on his man- about only people that get the china virus are those who didn't take a shot.
    You telling him Armia had both shots is something he will not be able to comprehend

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    The thing is they won't stop testing in pro sports until everyone around the team has been vaccinated. That's the issue
    Fukkin stupid, give the vaccinated the pass and maybe it will encourage others to get vaccinated. But vaccinating people and then fukkin with them when they test positive just gives the grossly misinformed crowd of anti vaccers out of context ammunition to spout shit like "the vaccine doesn't work" as they don't even realize the purpose of the vaccine to begin with.

    It's a fukked up cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Fukkin stupid, give the vaccinated the pass and maybe it will encourage others to get vaccinated. But vaccinating people and then fukkin with them when they test positive just gives the grossly misinformed crowd of anti vaccers out of context ammunition to spout shit like "the vaccine doesn't work" as they don't even realize the purpose of the vaccine to begin with.

    It's a fukked up cycle.
    How do you legally, without assuming massive liabilities, exclude a otherwise healthy individual who chooses not to participate in an experimental vaccine, from earning a living?

    If you have a testing policy, you test every one. If you believe in the vaxx as a solution to the world's problems then this is your policy.

    Otherwise, you simply drop the Covid testing, forego the Covid overreacting, admit you were wrong and get on with life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Fukkin stupid, give the vaccinated the pass and maybe it will encourage others to get vaccinated. But vaccinating people and then fukkin with them when they test positive just gives the grossly misinformed crowd of anti vaccers out of context ammunition to spout shit like "the vaccine doesn't work" as they don't even realize the purpose of the vaccine to begin with.

    It's a fukked up cycle.
    They will never stop fukking with people. Mine as well tell them to go fukk themselves.

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    You can still get COVID with the vaccine. This was always known, but not shared by the specialist. But the symptoms will be much milder, close to none. This is the same case as if you have not had the vaccine shot, and you had COVID before and had no symptoms.
    Everybody's immune system is different, and it's not possible to know how yours will react.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    How do you legally, without assuming massive liabilities, exclude a otherwise healthy individual who chooses not to participate in an experimental vaccine, from earning a living?

    If you have a testing policy, you test every one. If you believe in the vaxx as a solution to the world's problems then this is your policy.

    Otherwise, you simply drop the Covid testing, forego the Covid overreacting, admit you were wrong and get on with life.
    Gawd you're stupid.

    Not sure you have a clue what you're talking and I know you don't have a clue about what I'm talking about. Just read your first sentence, you are a drama queen.

    None of that is true and nobody is denying anyone a living.

    Unreal.


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    I would make it a law you have to get vaccinated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    There are still people dying from Covid who have had both shots. Mainly the old and the obese.

    Enough already! People die all the time and it's time to start living.

    There were rumors some of the Habs were at a restaurant with him yesterday so may have more positive tests by end of the week...
    ~ 98% of deaths in the last several weeks are unvaxxed. Similar for hospitalizations. No need to lockdown. Unvaxxed can spin their own roulette wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    ~ 98% of deaths in the last several weeks are unvaxxed. Similar for hospitalizations. No need to lockdown. Unvaxxed can spin their own roulette wheel.
    99.9 who died are over 70-80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    99.9 who died are over 70-80.
    Not recently. 60%+ are under 75. The most common age bracket for death in the last month is 50-64. More common than either 65-74 or 75-84 or 85+. But it does drop off a lot sub-50. Sub-40 deaths are quite rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Not recently. 60%+ are under 75. The most common age bracket for death in the last month is 50-64. More common than either 65-74 or 75-84 or 85+. But it does drop off a lot sub-50. Sub-40 deaths are quite rare.
    Okay I will take your word for it. I tend to agree 50+should think of getting vaccine n

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Gawd you're stupid.

    Not sure you have a clue what you're talking and I know you don't have a clue about what I'm talking about. Just read your first sentence, you are a drama queen.

    None of that is true and nobody is denying anyone a living.

    Unreal.

    LOL I'm stupid?

    You just said a league & union should discriminate by not testing "vaxed" people, and only test "non vaxxed" people.

    Non vaxxed may be just as healthy or asymptomatic as vaxxed. You are calling for blatant discrimination based on false science of an experimental vaxx that regulators have already warned causes heart inflammation and isn't even effective (see OP thread title) and announcement by cdc you need a 3rd shot now.

    Think before you write, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    LOL I'm stupid?

    You just said a league & union should discriminate by not testing "vaxed" people, and only test "non vaxxed" people.

    Non vaxxed may be just as healthy or asymptomatic as vaxxed. You are calling for blatant discrimination based on false science of an experimental vaxx that regulators have already warned causes heart inflammation and isn't even effective (see OP thread title) and announcement by cdc you need a 3rd shot now.

    Think before you write, please.
    Nobody said anything about taking away a man's ability to earn a living.

    You are an idiot.



    This is why you are an idiot...

    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    How do you legally, without assuming massive liabilities, exclude a otherwise healthy individual who chooses not to participate in an experimental vaccine, from earning a living?...
    You're just making shit up because you are just that clueless.


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    There have been only 315 COVID related to deaths to people under 18 years old since Jan 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    ~ 98% of deaths in the last several weeks are unvaxxed. Similar for hospitalizations. No need to lockdown. Unvaxxed can spin their own roulette wheel.
    Where are you getting this 98% from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    Where are you getting this 98% from?
    Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.
    An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.
    And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.
    The AP analyzed figures provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data.

    https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...6e7354f5d5e187

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    Personally, I would not believe what the AP puts out there. Nor would I expect the CDC to tell us the truth.. They just tell us what the government wants to release…

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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    Personally, I would not believe what the AP puts out there. Nor would I expect the CDC to tell us the truth.. They just tell us what the government wants to release…
    If you're not going to accept facts and figures and you're just going to use whatever alternative facts you want to posit, then any kind of discussion is pretty pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Get the vaccine

    Many great candidates

    Avoid J&J
    It's not a vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    ~ 98% of deaths in the last several weeks are unvaxxed. Similar for hospitalizations. No need to lockdown. Unvaxxed can spin their own roulette wheel.
    That's what they're telling you...that's what they want you to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    Where are you getting this 98% from?
    Probably...CNN

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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    Personally, I would not believe what the AP puts out there. Nor would I expect the CDC to tell us the truth.. They just tell us what the government wants to release…

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    Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in US are now among unvaccinatedAbout 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people



    https://www.foxnews.com/health/nearl...s-unvaccinated


    An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that "breakthrough" infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.

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    game time decision for tonight?

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    Got on the private jet with the false positive and at game now

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