1. #1
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Simulation gambling is beatable

    Folks are getting crushed they keep taking games off the board and on the board

  2. #2
    TommieGunshot
    TommieGunshot's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-12
    Posts: 1,555
    Betpoints: 6350

    Your evidence for why it's possible to win money betting simulated games is because there are people losing money betting them. I love it.

  3. #3
    ibetyouadollar
    ibetyouadollar's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-26-18
    Posts: 200
    Betpoints: 2442

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Folks are getting crushed they keep taking games off the board and on the board
    only thing...theres no real way that you can handicap sim games IMO.

  4. #4
    asiagambler
    asiagambler's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-23-17
    Posts: 6,389
    Betpoints: 30443

    Definitely beatable. Seems like the books are just guessing along with everyone else. Someone with lots and lots of hours of playing these can know what tendencies are and what makes the engine tick. I don't know how long these games take or if there's a way to speed them up but you can make a very accurate model just by running the simulation lots of times and running simple statistical analysis

  5. #5
    carolinakid
    carolinakid's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-12-11
    Posts: 19,106
    Betpoints: 3661

    only ever play 4 games here and i went 3-1

  6. #6
    Golden fleece
    Golden fleece's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-25-18
    Posts: 858
    Betpoints: 2655

    home teams on back to backs where the road team lost their previous game against the spread has been a cash cow

  7. #7
    juicername
    Thomorino - Fade and Get Paid
    juicername's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-14-15
    Posts: 6,906
    Betpoints: 3972

    Quote Originally Posted by Golden fleece View Post
    home teams on back to backs where the road team lost their previous game against the spread has been a cash cow
    The situational edges must be massive! I'll try my sdql systems for the next couple of games.

  8. #8
    trytrytry
    All I do is trytrytry
    trytrytry's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-13-06
    Posts: 23,504
    Betpoints: 273626

    SBR BETPOINT SIM wagering is open for today April 15th Tax day LOL

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...portsbook.html

  9. #9
    Sam Odom
    Sam Odom's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-30-05
    Posts: 58,063
    Betpoints: 37



  10. #10
    wakefield23
    wakefield23's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-08-13
    Posts: 179
    Betpoints: 3377

    Do you realize you can modify the sliders, right? Shit is rigged as f uck

  11. #11
    big joe 1212
    big joe 1212's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-01-08
    Posts: 19,376
    Betpoints: 5365

    Books are making money off them. If they weren’t, they’d shut it down
    Last edited by big joe 1212; 04-15-20 at 11:38 AM.

  12. #12
    SBR_Guest_Pro
    SBR Intern
    SBR_Guest_Pro's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-10-15
    Posts: 3,958
    Betpoints: 2939

    how do you beat them

  13. #13
    johnnyvegas13
    johnnyvegas13's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-21-15
    Posts: 26,186
    Betpoints: 174

    U sound like a jerk talking up sim sports

  14. #14
    clockwise1965
    clockwise1965's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-01-13
    Posts: 6,751
    Betpoints: 18366

    Slow down JJ.

  15. #15
    raiders72001
    raiders72001's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 08-10-05
    Posts: 10,493
    Betpoints: 15373

    You either have to run more sims than the book or figure out the fixed side to get an edge.

  16. #16
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Some people are running the same exact simulation models and re-creating the match ups and then going off their outcomes

  17. #17
    Sam Odom
    Sam Odom's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-30-05
    Posts: 58,063
    Betpoints: 37

    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post


    You either have to run more sims than the book or figure out the fixed side to get an edge.


    raiders knows...

  18. #18
    asiagambler
    asiagambler's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-23-17
    Posts: 6,389
    Betpoints: 30443

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Some people are running the same exact simulation models and re-creating the match ups and then going off their outcomes
    Yes. I would imagine a hack is possible to play through the Sim instantly. Then you can have thousands of games of data

  19. #19
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 82,770
    Betpoints: 30698

    Quote Originally Posted by wakefield23 View Post
    Do you realize you can modify the sliders, right? Shit is rigged as f uck
    They show the settings before every game.

  20. #20
    clockwise1965
    clockwise1965's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-01-13
    Posts: 6,751
    Betpoints: 18366

    Rigged

  21. #21
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 82,770
    Betpoints: 30698

    I fukkin love the NFL games


    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: KVB

  22. #22
    mrpapageorgio
    mrpapageorgio's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-07-17
    Posts: 2,974
    Betpoints: 3869

    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Yes. I would imagine a hack is possible to play through the Sim instantly. Then you can have thousands of games of data
    That would be my guess. Tech person can run through the simulation thousands of times using the CPU of the console.

    One of the variables you'd have to account for is if XBox or PS4's CPU has any tendencies or bias in the calculations when running the simulation probabilities.

  23. #23
    Bcatswin
    Bcats Winning Everywhere
    Bcatswin's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-21-10
    Posts: 13,929
    Betpoints: 5350

    Quote Originally Posted by wakefield23 View Post
    Do you realize you can modify the sliders, right? Shit is rigged as f uck
    They show all settings with the sliders pregame. Then it does not change, you could see the pause and change if they did. Not happening.

  24. #24
    Bcatswin
    Bcats Winning Everywhere
    Bcatswin's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-21-10
    Posts: 13,929
    Betpoints: 5350

    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    I fukkin love the NFL games



  25. #25
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Bcat has a system

  26. #26
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 74,849
    Betpoints: 7576

    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: DiggityDaggityDo

  27. #27
    Bcatswin
    Bcats Winning Everywhere
    Bcatswin's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-21-10
    Posts: 13,929
    Betpoints: 5350

    Good start


  28. #28
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Bcat your hurting books

  29. #29
    Bcatswin
    Bcats Winning Everywhere
    Bcatswin's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-21-10
    Posts: 13,929
    Betpoints: 5350

    Chalk up another jj


  30. #30
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Wow!

  31. #31
    gopolks
    gopolks's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-16-12
    Posts: 791
    Betpoints: 1690

    So your not talking esports here??? Just a computer simulation??

  32. #32
    Bcatswin
    Bcats Winning Everywhere
    Bcatswin's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-21-10
    Posts: 13,929
    Betpoints: 5350

    Esports as well.

  33. #33
    Bcatswin
    Bcats Winning Everywhere
    Bcatswin's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-21-10
    Posts: 13,929
    Betpoints: 5350

    Got that specifically on other threads.

  34. #34
    petey7979
    petey7979's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-18-19
    Posts: 143
    Betpoints: 4886

    Why doesn't Heritage offer the simulations? Bookmaker is my new book now

  35. #35
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 62,663
    Betpoints: 32317

    Quote Originally Posted by juicername View Post
    The situational edges must be massive! I'll try my sdql systems for the next couple of games.
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/s...y=15&year=2020

12 Last
Top