1. 04-09-20 02:00 PM #1
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    Madden Simulations??

    I have been betting the simulations @bovada. I placed a ML wager on Dallas vs New England on Tuesday night. The game ended up in a tie,they don’t run overtime in the simulations.They graded the wager as a loss,not a push.After several conversations with support they still say that it was a loss.Am I missing something here?

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  2. 04-09-20 02:08 PM #2
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    Fieldy, you picked Dallas to win, which they didn't do.

    Sorry but that equals a loss & Overtime is irrelevant.

    Maybe others who have been playing can chime in if they've seen OT played out or not.
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  3. 04-09-20 02:16 PM #3
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    Thanks for your response Hman.I guess that I was wrong thinking that it would be a push.I don’t believe I ever had a ML wager end in a tie.Thanks for clearing this up for me and good luck to everyone in their wagers.

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  4. 04-09-20 02:26 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fieldysnuts44 View Post
    Thanks for your response Hman.I guess that I was wrong thinking that it would be a push.I don’t believe I ever had a ML wager end in a tie.Thanks for clearing this up for me and good luck to everyone in their wagers.

    Fieldy


    In real-life sports a ML wager on a regular season game that ended in a tie despite overtime would be a loss.

    It's just not something we're used to and any of us could have overlooked it.

    Best of luck going forward Fieldy!
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  5. 04-09-20 02:30 PM #5
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    Get em next time Fieldy!
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  6. 04-09-20 02:40 PM #6
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    Are these moneyline bets 3 way lines?
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  7. 04-09-20 02:40 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    In real-life sports a ML wager on a regular season game that ended in a tie despite overtime would be a loss.

    It's just not something we're used to and any of us could have overlooked it.

    Best of luck going forward Fieldy!
    NFL SPREADS/TOTAL bets on a regular season game which end in a tie are considered action. While ML bets would be considered PUSH.
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  8. 04-09-20 02:42 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert91016 View Post
    NFL SPREADS/TOTAL bets on a regular season game which end in a tie are considered action. While ML bets would be considered PUSH.
    That’s what I’m thinking unless the book is offering 3 way lines.
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  9. 04-09-20 02:44 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    That’s what I’m thinking unless the book is offering 3 way lines.
    Correct
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  10. 04-09-20 03:01 PM #10
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    is there special language for simulations?
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  11. 04-09-20 03:09 PM #11
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    So they just turn the game off if it ends in a tie in regulation on bovada? Madden games don’t end in ties and Bookmaker plays it through till there is a winner. If Bovada is not allowing you to bet a tie/offer 3 way ml like soccer than a ml bet would definitely end in a push. You should keep contacting them about this
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  12. 04-09-20 03:35 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fieldysnuts44 View Post
    I have been betting the simulations @bovada. I placed a ML wager on Dallas vs New England on Tuesday night. The game ended up in a tie,they don’t run overtime in the simulations.They graded the wager as a loss,not a push.After several conversations with support they still say that it was a loss.Am I missing something here?

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    Fieldy
    If the market only offers a 2 way line, and there is not some special note about how draws are handled, then it should be a push.

    But if Bovada checked it, I am guessing you bet on a 3 way line market, with odds for the draw too.
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  13. 04-09-20 03:37 PM #13
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    Tremendous info like usual for the bettor
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  14. 04-09-20 03:54 PM #14
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    Yeah Hman is right if there’s a three way line but I highly doubt they are offering three way lines for madden sims. If it was just two options and there was no tie option to bet than it should be a push for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    If the market only offers a 2 way line, and there is not some special note about how draws are handled, then it should be a push.

    But if Bovada checked it, I am guessing you bet on a 3 way line market, with odds for the draw too.
    I haven't seen any 3-way options for the SIM moneylines -
    They (Bovada) has had standard offerings for spread/moneyline and total - just heavy juice (-115/-115)
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    they are stealing your money do a complaint and get it back.
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  17. 04-09-20 04:04 PM #17
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    I just had someone double check and there are only two way lines today.

    If you send in a complaint form with the account and bet details we can ask a manager to double check this for you https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
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  18. 04-09-20 04:13 PM #18
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    Thanks for all of the responses.They are not offering 3 way lines on the simulations,that’s why I thought that it would equal a push.I will send it in as a complaint.

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    My bad fellas, I just went back and check the stream on Twitch and apparently they did play overtime and New England won.The stream went offline at the end of 4th qtr and apparently came back on after I left thinking that it was over and a tie.

    Had a good day yesterday betting the simulations and off to 2-0 start today.Good luck everyone,sorry for the false info.

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  20. 04-09-20 07:14 PM #20
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    fading sims heavy
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  21. 04-09-20 07:32 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Fieldy, you picked Dallas to win, which they didn't do.





    Maybe others who have been playing can chime in if they've seen OT played out or not.
    Disregard
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  22. 04-09-20 07:37 PM #22
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    Lots of line movement. BOL opened Dallas at -8.5 over SF and closed at pk.
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  23. 04-09-20 07:49 PM #23
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    Bookmaker taking $2k on Madden.
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  24. 04-09-20 08:40 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Bookmaker http://twitch.tv/primetimeaction
    BOL http://twitch.tv/betonlinemadden
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    Lots of line movement. BOL opened Dallas at -8.5 over SF and closed at pk.
    I was curious about some of those lines at BOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzaii View Post
    I was curious about some of those lines at BOL
    SF ended up winning it OT.
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  26. 04-09-20 10:10 PM #26
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    #shady
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  27. 04-10-20 12:14 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fieldysnuts44 View Post
    My bad fellas, I just went back and check the stream on Twitch and apparently they did play overtime and New England won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    In real-life sports a ML wager on a regular season game that ended in a tie despite overtime would be a loss.
    What? No. Unless it is a 3-way line, this would be a push in real-life sports. Look at how ML bets on Lions/Cardinals last season were graded.
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    Only three ways are graded as a loss
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  30. 04-10-20 02:56 PM #30
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    ok can someone tell me where to find them in the heritage book, i cant find them nowhere there.
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  31. 04-10-20 03:58 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinakid View Post
    ok can someone tell me where to find them in the heritage book, i cant find them nowhere there.
    I don’t believe they offer them
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    Thanks, that what i was thinking as i look everywhere on their site and could not find any games odds
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  33. 04-10-20 04:09 PM #33
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    ridiculous posts by hman as a mod

    that should not be happening
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    heard bookmaker taking handles of 100k on one game alone
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  35. 04-13-20 11:33 AM #35
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    so far these are results of the major Book Sims. I suggest you always check your books line and then Fairlay via the APP so see who has best as sometimes BIG difference. Also one cool thing about Fairlay you can parlay games from multiple books. like a game at bovada and bookmaker tie it into a parlay with ease. Also steam players alert there is no API for sims so Danshan has to adjust manually and at times you can beat him as its tough to keep up

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