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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Smart strategically and also the most qualified Women candidates happen to be Black. If Lizzie was 10 years or so Younger, it would be her. Still might be, but I doubt it. Pence is the Whitest White man imaginable. You want to contrast that.
    You know your stuff, props. Of the 6 rumored short listers, I've got 5 in profit (Harris and Rice in very comfortable profit), but Liz remains in the red and I can't decide whether to hedge her.

    Working against her (and therefore for me) is she's white, she's 70 and she's from a state with a Republican governor in a year when the Senate is absolutely in play.

    Given how tired democrats are of McConnell and being in the Senate minority, I thought the Republican governor thing would be enough to prevent her selection.

    So imagine my horror when I found out that barely matters since the Massachusetts state legislature is basically a one party body (36 dems to 4 repubs in the state Senate and 127 to 32 in the House) who can pass a veto proof bill forcing the governor to appoint someone from the same party as a departing Senator.

    Apparently 6 states already have that law, but I'm confused on how something like that can be enforced. I mean, can't a current Massachusetts Republican (AKA, a unicorn) just "switch parties" right now to get appointed by the governor as a "democrat" under the future mandate?

    Or, more likely, am I just trying to justify not doing what I should do and hedge Warren out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    You know your stuff, props. Of the 6 rumored short listers, I've got 5 in profit (Harris and Rice in very comfortable profit), but Liz remains in the red and I can't decide whether to hedge her.

    Working against her (and therefore for me) is she's white, she's 70 and she's from a state with a Republican governor in a year when the Senate is absolutely in play.

    Given how tired democrats are of McConnell and being in the Senate minority, I thought the Republican governor thing would be enough to prevent her selection.

    So imagine my horror when I found out that barely matters since the Massachusetts state legislature is basically a one party body (36 dems to 4 repubs in the state Senate and 127 to 32 in the House) who can pass a veto proof bill forcing the governor to appoint someone from the same party as a departing Senator.

    Apparently 6 states already have that law, but I'm confused on how something like that can be enforced. I mean, can't a current Massachusetts Republican (AKA, a unicorn) just "switch parties" right now to get appointed by the governor as a "democrat" under the future mandate?

    Or, more likely, am I just trying to justify not doing what I should do and hedge Warren out?
    Warrena biggest megative is progressives dont like her, she couldnt evwn win her own state in the primary and bernie supportera think she cost,them the nomination. I doubt democrats give up a seat in the senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    You know your stuff, props. Of the 6 rumored short listers, I've got 5 in profit (Harris and Rice in very comfortable profit), but Liz remains in the red and I can't decide whether to hedge her.

    Working against her (and therefore for me) is she's white, she's 70 and she's from a state with a Republican governor in a year when the Senate is absolutely in play.

    Given how tired democrats are of McConnell and being in the Senate minority, I thought the Republican governor thing would be enough to prevent her selection.

    So imagine my horror when I found out that barely matters since the Massachusetts state legislature is basically a one party body (36 dems to 4 repubs in the state Senate and 127 to 32 in the House) who can pass a veto proof bill forcing the governor to appoint someone from the same party as a departing Senator.

    Apparently 6 states already have that law, but I'm confused on how something like that can be enforced. I mean, can't a current Massachusetts Republican (AKA, a unicorn) just "switch parties" right now to get appointed by the governor as a "democrat" under the future mandate?

    Or, more likely, am I just trying to justify not doing what I should do and hedge Warren out?
    I think you're safe, but if Lizzie gets to odds you like, you might want to hedge to be 100% safe. Of the 6 short listers (Harris, Demmings, Rice, Lizzie, Bottoms, and Grisham), Lizzie offers the least contrast from Biden, or Pence. Her age, her race, and her geography are too big for him to truly consider her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    You know your stuff, props. Of the 6 rumored short listers, I've got 5 in profit (Harris and Rice in very comfortable profit), but Liz remains in the red and I can't decide whether to hedge her.

    Working against her (and therefore for me) is she's white, she's 70 and she's from a state with a Republican governor in a year when the Senate is absolutely in play.

    Given how tired democrats are of McConnell and being in the Senate minority, I thought the Republican governor thing would be enough to prevent her selection.

    So imagine my horror when I found out that barely matters since the Massachusetts state legislature is basically a one party body (36 dems to 4 repubs in the state Senate and 127 to 32 in the House) who can pass a veto proof bill forcing the governor to appoint someone from the same party as a departing Senator.

    Apparently 6 states already have that law, but I'm confused on how something like that can be enforced. I mean, can't a current Massachusetts Republican (AKA, a unicorn) just "switch parties" right now to get appointed by the governor as a "democrat" under the future mandate?

    Or, more likely, am I just trying to justify not doing what I should do and hedge Warren out?
    Forget about Warren, too useless and old. He's not picking her nor Harris.

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    Currently, Kamala Harris is available at +165 at Jazzsports.

    No guarantees how long that off mkt price will last, but Jazz has low bet lims on politics so if you've got an acct there it might be worth a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    I think you're safe, but if Lizzie gets to odds you like, you might want to hedge to be 100% safe. Of the 6 short listers (Harris, Demmings, Rice, Lizzie, Bottoms, and Grisham), Lizzie offers the least contrast from Biden, or Pence. Her age, her race, and her geography are too big for him to truly consider her.
    Cool, I followed your advice and hedged her to even at 15-1. I don't like the bet but it's a cheap hedge and twice in interviews last week Biden got defensive when asked if the VP should be a black woman, both times citing his promise to name a black woman to the Supreme Court, so I'm guessing he thinks he should at least have the option of picking a white woman.

    In my neck of the woods it's knock on wood for Harris or Rice who are both about +$7k.

    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Warrena biggest megative is progressives dont like her, she couldnt evwn win her own state in the primary and bernie supportera think she cost,them the nomination. I doubt democrats give up a seat in the senate.
    Wasn't that weird and sad to watch Warren fade in her own state? And you're right, she's def got a likeability problem, irrespective of her politics.

    I took losses on that race; I had Bernie and Bloomberg. I don't think Biden spent a penny in advertising or held a single event in Mass.

    From the "ugh" files, Biden was available at 50-1 the day before Super Tuesday ($2 at PI)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    Forget about Warren, too useless and old. He's not picking her nor Harris.
    Thia dumb shit with more stupid comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    2-1...

    This parasite knows nothing.

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    She is trying really hard to stay in the limelight. She will be on Stephen Colbert tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    This parasite knows nothing.
    3-1... then

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    3-1... then

    Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    3-1... then

    Lol
    You dont know anything parasite. The onlu reason supposed know it all like you dont make predicitions is you know you are full of shit. You are a parasite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You dont know anything parasite. The onlu reason supposed know it all like you dont make predicitions is you know you are full of shit. You are a parasite.
    Make predictions? Motherfucking idiot this isn't "Psychic Talk" but gambling forum. Damn, too scare to lose a few days posting your "predictions" as 3-1 not
    enticing? Btw I don't know everything but I do know how to respond to 1 post and not creating duplicate posts to respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    Make predictions? Motherfucking idiot this isn't "Psychic Talk" but gambling forum. Damn, too scare to lose a few days posting your "predictions" as 3-1 not
    enticing? Btw I don't know everything but I do know how to respond to 1 post and not creating duplicate posts to respond.
    Again, no prediction because you are a full of shit parasite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Again, no prediction because you are a full of shit parasite.
    Ok, how about 4-1...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    Ok, how about 4-1...

    You have no money dumb shit.

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    Klobechar is out

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You have no money dumb shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Klobechar is out
    Moot point. She also basically says Lizzie is out:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amy...woman-of-color

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Moot point. She also basically says Lizzie is out:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amy...woman-of-color
    Can't see Bottoms having any chance when she's begging police to come back to work. Seems like Demings would be the smart choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You have no money dumb shit.
    I never said anything about money. You just make things up to deflect. So I guess it's back to 2-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarkingToad View Post

    Can't see Bottoms having any chance when she's begging police to come back to work. Seems like Demings would be the smart choice.
    Demings was a pomice chief and she has no national profile or foreign policy experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    I never said anything about money. You just make things up to deflect. So I guess it's back to 2-1.
    You are a parasite with no money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Klobechar is out
    Yeah, big doings today. Here's the tiers as I see them. What do you guys think?


    Top Tier

    1. Kamala Harris alone. I'd say she's pickem.

    Standby Tier
    -- Everybody here's hoping due diligence uncovers a Harris problem -- Bisexual porn pics, complete with weed and weird German army Iron Cross tattoo like Congresswoman Katie Hill? illegal maid? tax problem? -- something.

    2. Susan Rice. Well spoken and a close friend of Biden's, but she's never been elected to anything. 4-1

    3. Val Demings. Is the darkness of her complexion hurting her chances? 6-1

    Darkhorse Tier


    4. Keisha Lance Bottoms. The 6 weeks between now and Biden's decision might be unkind to Bottoms, as memories of the protests fade. 10-1

    5. Lujan Grisham. Is the lightness of her complexion hurting her chances? 15-1

    6. Liz Warren. I don't know why Klobuchar hates her, but that's a pretty deep knife wound in Warren's back tonight. 20-1

    Longshots / Also-Rans

    Stacey Abrams, Tammy Duckworth, Tammy Baldwin(?), Gretchen Whitmer(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    Yeah, big doings today. Here's the tiers as I see them. What do you guys think?

    Top Tier

    1. Kamala Harris alone. I'd say she's pickem.

    Standby Tier
    -- Everybody here's hoping due diligence uncovers a Harris problem -- Bisexual porn pics, complete with weed and weird German army Iron Cross tattoo like Congresswoman Katie Hill? illegal maid? tax problem? -- something.

    2. Susan Rice. Well spoken and a close friend of Biden's, but she's never been elected to anything. 4-1

    3. Val Demings. Is the darkness of her complexion hurting her chances? 6-1

    Darkhorse Tier


    4. Keisha Lance Bottoms. The 6 weeks between now and Biden's decision might be unkind to Bottoms, as memories of the protests fade. 10-1

    5. Lujan Grisham. Is the lightness of her complexion hurting her chances? 15-1

    6. Liz Warren. I don't know why Klobuchar hates her, but that's a pretty deep knife wound in Warren's back tonight. 20-1

    Longshots / Also-Rans

    Stacey Abrams, Tammy Duckworth, Tammy Baldwin(?), Gretchen Whitmer(?)
    Very logical. I might make Rice closer to Kamala, because of her working closely with Biden previously. Her big move in the odds lately is indicating somebody knows something, or thinks they do. But it'll still be an upset at this point if it's not The Ugandan Giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Very logical. I might make Rice closer to Kamala, because of her working closely with Biden previously. Her big move in the odds lately is indicating somebody knows something, or thinks they do. But it'll still be an upset at this point if it's not The Ugandan Giant.
    Heh, heh, heh. Wholeheartedly Agree!

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    She’s still recovering from the devastating Tulsi KO.

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    Regardless of who he chooses, my question will be whether his choice is based on the content of their character or the color of their skin..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    That was definitely an ass kicking, but that's just politics.

    During the '08 campaign Biden once described Obama as "clean," as if that were something uncommon for black people, but Obama picked him for Veep anyway.

    EDIT: I found the quote. It's very Biden-esque: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and he's clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You are a parasite with no money.
    Really corny to argue about whether someone has money when obviously someone is lacking $100...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    Really corny to argue about whether someone has money when obviously someone is lacking $100...

    You are a parasite, I could obviously go pro now if I wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post

    Heh, heh, heh. Wholeheartedly Agree!
    Rice doeant make sense because foreign policy isnt a big issue right now and she has no natuonal profile with most votera. Biden also likes to think expwrience ams foreign policy are his strengths. despite his horrible record,so shes is likely going to be seen as adding nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You are a parasite, I could obviously go pro now if I wanted to.
    Yeah, right


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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    Yeah, right

    You are a dumb parasite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You are a dumb parasite.
    who actually has $100 to be PRO but maybe moron can ask for a loan from mommy

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