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    **heritage graded pga tournament matchups?

    rudy talked me into making this thread, it is weird that i somehow lost money on a tournament cancelled before the 1st round was even completed!

    here are their golf rules... seem more like tennis rules since it wasn't really "agreed on by the players" or due to injury

    Wagers will be settled using the official tournament and match results (including final match correct score and individual match betting). This includes a match which finishes early, either by agreement of the players or because of injury.

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    has to be an error, i bet they fix that

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    The first round was completed??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    The first round was completed??
    no, there were still a couple guys that hadn't finished the first round... but yes on my matchups it was completed.

    what happens if i had a matchup where one guy only played 17 holes?

    it's as if the tournament didn't exist, certainly wasn't shortened, it was CANCELLED

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    glad you created a thread

    i would definitely complain

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    no, there were still a couple guys that hadn't finished the first round... but yes on my matchups it was completed.

    what happens if i had a matchup where one guy only played 17 holes?

    it's as if the tournament didn't exist, certainly wasn't shortened, it was CANCELLED
    My understanding is if they T off it counts, doesn’t matter if they finish or not, just as long as a T off. And whoever’s winning regardless if one finishes or not is considered the winner if one does and actually has the better score.

    However under the circumstances I think there should be some flexibility

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    My understanding is if they T off it counts, doesn’t matter if they finish or not, just as long as a T off. And whoever’s winning regardless if one finishes or not is considered the winner if one does and actually has the better score.

    However under the circumstances I think there should be some flexibility
    no way

    were regulation bets graded on the basketball game that was called at half?


    they shouldnt have been if they were

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    no way

    were regulation bets graded on the basketball game that was called at half?


    they shouldnt have been if they were
    Golf bets have action if they tee off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    My understanding is if they T off it counts, doesn’t matter if they finish or not, just as long as a T off. And whoever’s winning regardless if one finishes or not is considered the winner if one does and actually has the better score.

    However under the circumstances I think there should be some flexibility
    golf matchups are always WHO PLAYED THE MOST HOLES. so you're telling me someone should lose a tournament matchup bet on fitzpatrick because it got dark and he didn't finish the 18th hole on day 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Golf bets have action if they tee off.
    not for tourney


    ill bet 100 points its reversed


    i dont have 100 right now, but ill pay...im good for it, infact ill give you 110 since im paying in 12 increments

    want action?


    1st round, i wouldnt bet either way..but tourney matchups ill take your 100 point bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Golf bets have action if they tee off.
    and boxing/ufc bets have action if they start the fight...but when it's declared a NO CONTEST then all bets are refunded

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    golf matchups are always WHO PLAYED THE MOST HOLES. so you're telling me someone should lose a tournament matchup bet on fitzpatrick because it got dark and he didn't finish the 18th hole on day 1?
    Don’t laugh at me book graded just as stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Don’t laugh at me book graded just as stated.
    i get along with you fine now bro, but ill take the bet if you accept

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    and boxing/ufc bets have action if they start the fight...but when it's declared a NO CONTEST then all bets are refunded
    I’m not arguing your point.

    I’m just saying golf is different than other sports. Not saying I’m agreeing. Just saying that phrase must tee off had screwed me before.

    Just like badeball a pitcher tosses 1 pitch then leaves game it counts under listed

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    you accept it or not???


    if anyone else wants to take pimikes side, ill still bet if he doesnt

    but might need a 3rd party escrow for others



    im saying itll be REVERSED for tourney matchups

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Don’t laugh at me book graded just as stated.
    i originally thought that, but if you read the first part of that rule it should be no action. the "official tournament and match results" are that the tournament never happened.

    Wagers will be settled using the official tournament and match results (including final match correct score and individual match betting). This includes a match which finishes early, either by agreement of the players or because of injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    you accept it or not???


    if anyone else wants to take pimikes side, ill still bet if he doesnt

    but might need a 3rd party escrow for others



    im saying itll be REVERSED for tourney matchups
    Like I said under these circumstances I believe they will. Heritage always works for the punter.

    Just saying why it was graded as is originally.

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    who did you have mikey, dont tell me amount

    ill go talk to chat on your behalf if you arent filing a complaint


    id like the 100 point bet first

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    who did you have mikey, dont tell me amount

    ill go talk to chat on your behalf if you arent filing a complaint


    id like the 100 point bet first
    Lol

    Not betting you. I’m on a full 30 day break. First time in like 20 years no thinking capping or stressing. Lol

    Had Cantlay/Simpson 3 units each
    Took Berger and Hovland for 1 each

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    Would you expect to be paid for winning first round match-ups that were already decided before it was cancelled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Would you expect to be paid for winning first round match-ups that were already decided before it was cancelled?
    Yes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Would you expect to be paid for winning first round match-ups that were already decided before it was cancelled?
    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Yes

    these are tourney matchups

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    these are tourney matchups
    Full or 1st round?


    Mike said first round. Are you drinking again Rudy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Full or 1st round?


    Mike said first round. Are you drinking again Rudy?
    mike i dont admit to 2 mistakes in the same fukkin day


    i think mikey has full tournament, which he stated in the golf thread


    if im wrong, ill apologize TOMORROW

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    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post29317683


    he had tourney matchups


    thats a clear cut CANCELLATION in my opinion

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    I had rahm +1.5 against rory for the tournament. Rahm up 4 strokes after round 1 and they graded it as a push on bookmaker. Seems right or no? Not sure with golf rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucketwah View Post
    I had rahm +1.5 against rory for the tournament. Rahm up 4 strokes after round 1 and they graded it as a push on bookmaker. Seems right or no? Not sure with golf rules
    should be a push, just like mikeys should be

    its obvious

    that sucks for you, but its the way it needs to go

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    If they are tournament matchups I'd assume they should be cancelled too.

    Unless there was "Official tournament results" posted by the PGA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post29317683


    he had tourney matchups


    thats a clear cut CANCELLATION in my opinion
    Tournament yes round 1 no

    Ok

    Rudy you got a beer for me on ST patty’s day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    If they are tournament matchups I'd assume they should be cancelled too.

    Unless there was "Official match tournament results" posted by the PGA.
    there wasnt, whole thing is wiped out

    personally, id even argue about 1st round matchups but thats more 50/50

    tourney matchups should be 100% canceled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    If they are tournament matchups I'd assume they should be cancelled too.

    Unless there was "Official match tournament results" posted by the PGA.
    Exactly

    The man with common sense and tons of book knowledge!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Tournament yes round 1 no

    Ok

    Rudy you got a beer for me on ST patty’s day?
    thats why i said he should complain




    no, i got a keg plus 2 30paks....im claiming corona virus so noone takes mine


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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    thats why i said he should complain




    no, i got a keg plus 2 30paks....im claiming corona virus so noone takes mine

    Dang it!!!





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    P. Casey Spread +1½-126 for Game
    Tournament Matchup, M. Kuchar vs P. Casey. Players must tee off for action.Game Time: Mar 12, 2020 5:55 am PST

    Loss
    S. Im Spread +1½-119 for Game
    Tournament Matchup, S. Im vs H. Matsuyama. Players must tee off for action.Game Time: Mar 12, 2020 5:10 am PST

    Loss

    Loss

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    i might have to become Players Advocate again

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