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    watch the 03 colts pats title game...

    disregard all the other non flags, bad play.. etc....

    Colts down 7, have ball 3rd and 10... 1:51 to play.... TE gets RAPED and refs stare at the sky

    pollard was held again on 4th and 10 as well to boot

    this was the saints rams ... before saints rams no call

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m1Pw9YR0AY

    go to 1 hour 48 minute...45 seconds in the video for the play

    seriously, just read the comment section for the replay of this game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Huh? The Rockets couldn't get out of the West. The Bulls weren't the problem for Houston. They routinely beat Jordan and the Bulls. Heck, Jordan wouldn't have the rings if the Rocket's could have made the Finals. They matched up really well with Chicago.

    Cleveland probably would have gotten 1 maybe 2 without Jordan and if they didn't trade Ron Harper like fools.


    The Browns would have had at least 2 if it weren't for John fukkking Elway.

    Cleveland. That's precious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    As far as individual legacy, yes but I think you can make equally good cases for San Diego or Pittsburgh benefiting more
    I wouldn't doubt if pittsburgh has the second most victories and winning seasons during the brady era, plus I don't ever remember tomlin beating them in the playoffs. Beat them the same way quite a few times, like groundhog day. So yes, THAT changes the trajectory of the pittsburgh franchise, big Ben, and tomlin. Probably ALL time greats if the is no Brady era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    Cleveland. That's precious.
    Damn skippy Cleveland...

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    Manning; because everyone, instead of just a few, would know that he's the GOAT and, other than Elway, it's not close.

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    Brad Daugherty

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    Scottie pippen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Scottie pippen
    Looking back, Scottie was probably the second player on the floor in all of those finals. That is double trouble, but I don't think that Scottie could have led any team to a finals victory being the teams best player and scorer.

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    My guess is the NBA would have had a lot of parity if Jordan never played. Ewing, Barkley and Malone would have gotten at least 1 ring imo and Houston may have still been the team to win multiple titles with Hakeem at his peak.

    In the NFL, Peyton would have been King if not for Brady so I'd imagine he'd make several Super Bowl appearances and wound up with more than 2 rings.

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    I would just say the knicks team in general. They probably would have all stayed together for a really long time had they started with a ring or two.

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    Kansas City would be going for the 3 peat this weekend. Mahomes would be going to his 3 third straight super bowl at 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    NFL would have been a helluva lot different if TB AND BB never existed.
    Anyone who believes BB wouldn`t have made the Pats into a consistent contender without Tommy has very suspect intelligence. Or an irrational hater.
    This didn’t age well.

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    Good coach but BB is arrogant stubborn and a lil bit overrated, refused to play butler 1 snap because he thought he wouldn't get out coached, 1 pass defend and outcome could be different, didn't respect Brady enough but now refuses presidential medal because he knows he can't piss off the squad no more as he isn't the god no more in New England

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    patrick ewing (im a bit biased, but hes a good candidate)

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    bulls wouldnt have won sh11t if Dolan owned them

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    Bulls would of done better without Jordan the butterfly effect would of saved Len Bias' life and he would lead the Bulls to 8 titles.

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    NBA - New York Knicks with Patrick Ewing.
    NFL - Everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by stil370 View Post
    patrick ewing (im a bit biased, but hes a good candidate)
    you are right. the knicks as a whole and ewing. would be talking about him as one of the best in the game. i HATED jordan when i was younger cause of that. as i got older, i appreciated the greatness.

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    NBA: Ewing

    NFL: Chargers

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    reverse question - do the giants win the 2 superbowls they did if they do not face brady? patriots were one of the best opponents for them given their pass rush

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    Big Ben is leaving with only two rings. Probably 3-4 and 5-6 Super Bowl appearances if not for the Brady led Patriots in the way in the playoffs many of the Steelers prime years.

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