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New Jersey is one of the only states in which gaming operators are not allowed to refuse to take bets from players who are simply using skill, a protocol backed by a 1982 decision from the Supreme Court of New Jersey.


the above quote is taking from the "one and done" google it.

so obviously the info you got from "friends", or acquaintances is BS. at least in NJ, I will research PA when I find the time.

Books don't refuse people for being too skillful. They say they are suspicious of your money source or ability to bet as much as you are or even have concern over your character. None of which they have to prove to be true. Just that they are reasonable to be suspicious if the regulator questions it.

Plus they can still limit you.

[dante1]

Books don't refuse people for being too skillful. They say they are suspicious of your money source or ability to bet as much as you are or even have concern over your character. None of which they have to prove to be true. Just that they are reasonable to be suspicious if the regulator questions it.

Plus they can still limit you.

I am sure they can limit you, what I am not sure of is how much authority are books given when they are sanctioned, certified and under the regulations of the states of the USA. you read what I wrote concerning NJ, now NJ naturally is a left leaning state, well more than left leaning, but this is all basically new except for Nevada.

I think these issues might very well be tested in court. especially if one or two or more of these privately owned but certified/regulated shops begin unfair practices toward the player.

you know to me it is almost a moot point considering the number of real winners in sports. think about that. listen if Fan Duel or any other sports book in one of our states, states a certain player can only make 500 dollar bets well how serious is that? If he is a true winner, and they are very very rare, what stops him from going somewhere else. And really, now use some common sense, how many players actually lay 10,000 or 50,000 on a game in a day after day basis.

tell you this if there are plenty of very rich that do, they won't be very rich for long.


I have confidence in state regulated books, but we will see. It also will depend on the politics of that state, this will be settled, I think.

[dante1]

BTW, all of these PA books have a protocol already set up for player complaints. and if that complaint isn't handled fairly or justly accoding to either the book or the individual it goes even further up the ladder.


we are not dealing with a business that can do anything they want, oh no they must follow certain guidelines and the more progessive the state the more the guidelines will be better for the player. which is obvious isn't it.

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I am sure they can limit you, what I am not sure of is how much authority are books given when they are sanctioned, certified and under the regulations of the states of the USA. you read what I wrote concerning NJ, now NJ naturally is a left leaning state, well more than left leaning, but this is all basically new except for Nevada.

I think these issues might very well be tested in court. especially if one or two or more of these privately owned but certified/regulated shops begin unfair practices toward the player.

you know to me it is almost a moot point considering the number of real winners in sports. think about that. listen if Fan Duel or any other sports book in one of our states, states a certain player can only make 500 dollar bets well how serious is that? If he is a true winner, and they are very very rare, what stops him from going somewhere else. And really, now use some common sense, how many players actually lay 10,000 or 50,000 on a game in a day after day basis.

tell you this if there are plenty of very rich that do, they won't be very rich for long.


I have confidence in state regulated books, but we will see. It also will depend on the politics of that state, this will be settled, I think.

It does sound like a good law.

I have confidence USA regulation will turn out better than the UK model too.

Trying to enforce similar types of regulations in other places hasn't really worked as well as hoped though.

[jjgold]

Parx gives out excellent odds boosts also

[mdkpicks]

good, so you didn't know about it. Well, this is my opinion only, I would make the $1000 wager with BA and then play a $500 wager on the other side and hopefully find a point or at least a half point difference with a small chance for a middle. This way if you lose your BA bet you win $500 and get back your $1000.

Dante,


You make a good point about hedging lines off of multiple books to get the play through faster. Especially with basketball the live lines move like crazy and it seems like you can often limit and sometimes knock out the middle. The crazy moves in basketball lines has really started to intrigue me as a money making opportunity if you're patient and not looking to make big killings. But that's a topic for another day and forum.

My one problem is that I often travel outside of the state during the week, so the 7 day limit could effectively turn into 3 or 4 for me, if I need to play through $3000. March madness could become March insanity for someone who typically doesn't bet more than $50 or so at a shot!

[dante1]

Dante,


You make a good point about hedging lines off of multiple books to get the play through faster. Especially with basketball the live lines move like crazy and it seems like you can often limit and sometimes knock out the middle. The crazy moves in basketball lines has really started to intrigue me as a money making opportunity if you're patient and not looking to make big killings. But that's a topic for another day and forum.

My one problem is that I often travel outside of the state during the week, so the 7 day limit could effectively turn into 3 or 4 for me, if I need to play through $3000. March madness could become March insanity for someone who typically doesn't bet more than $50 or so at a shot!

I get it, and yes that would be a problem. the only solution might be a bad solution and that would be to place bets in two different sports books and lose the 10%. however, if it is free money it might be an idea, albeit not a great one.

I wouldn't be surprised if many of PA and NJ players are thinking these same thoughts. however, I am not a borderline guy it takes me close to 2.5 hours to get to my kid's residence in Flemington. so it does have drawbacks. I would need to wake up in NJ play $1000 bets probably looking for a point or a point and a half middle, then drive to Pa and make the necessary plays in a different book. the only advantage would be to hit a middle which is not easy. and to top it off you only get through 1/3 the roll. lol. this would be a great time to live 15 minutes from NJ.

I remember the days when local bookies would have lines differing by 3, 4 and sometimes 5 or more points. that is rare today.

and for sure March madness would become March insanity. lol I am still weighing the options.

[dante1]

this is a funny story but a true story.

many, many years ago when we had a dozen or more locals tossing out lines one bookie would almost always put out a bunch of games that had much different lines than most. eg, maybe most books had a team at -3.5 he might have it at a pick. and he did that with a bunch of games. when asked why he does that he said I want the action. that is a true story, he wanted to get middled because it gave him action.

as I have written time after time after time even stupid bookies win. but, I wouldn't be surprised if on many of days he got crucified. I am assuming that he limited the amount he would take on those games, but I don't know for sure.

[Believe_EMT]

Draftkings doing me dirty, and i find it concerning. i might be reading too much into it, but wanted to lay it out here.

buddy of my strictly a rec bettor is also using DK now that gambling is legal.

he got a text last week on the XFL games to boost the moneylines, one was from -220 to +250.

i received no such text nor was it listed under my rewards.

fellas, i have less than a grand in DK. what happens when i start pushing that balance up? they're already excluding me from offers made available to other clients.

having typed that, not sure i would miss DK, unless they started back up with those free money plays like phi +76 vs lakers. that was a good one. feel like i find the best lines at fanduel, fox bet or bet america most of the time.

seems they discontinued the simmons to score first bet and get free $1 play for every pt/ast/reb

[jjgold]

They exclude people that just bet perks

I would too

[CanuckG]

https://pa.betamerica.com/sports/

[jjgold]

BetAmerica not bad

[Believe_EMT]

They exclude people that just bet perks

I would too

they were my main source of action for awhile there, so watch it baldy!

they were kicking me really nice rewards for the action, but then just stopped.

[jjgold]

These books can’t continue to give perks

[im over here now]

Laughable people here are arguing a book is kicking out bonus hit and run players... Why would a book kick them out? Would it be easier for the book, Just not offer a bonus and our free play to the player? Does the casino kick out players who only use free bets on craps and blackjack? How about the player who only plays free play on slots and video poker? I’ll answer for you they don’t they just quit offering the perks of free bets and free play... Gold and crusher seem to think the wild Wild West of online ( all the scams, slow pays, bans) is going to fly in American books... Newsflash it isn’t..

[im over here now]

Then again some posters claim they are moving 50, 60, 70k worth of bitcoin out of a book a month... So I guess anything is possible

[Crusherrr]

Then again some posters claim they are moving 50, 60, 70k worth of bitcoin out of a book a month... So I guess anything is possible

I'm just surprised you made a post that wasn't you talking about your lame Aria comps that you get.

You don't seem very educated in offshore gaming, so I suppose your opinion on it means very little.

Regulated sportsbooks are appealing to small timers or people that don't care what prices they are betting into. If you stay with reputable books there are no such scams, bans or slow pays to deal with. Offshore will definitely get hurt but it will make their lines and promotions that much better in order to compete.

[im over here now]

I'm just surprised you made a post that wasn't you talking about your lame Aria comps that you get.

You don't seem very educated in offshore gaming, so I suppose your opinion on it means very little.

Regulated sportsbooks are appealing to small timers or people that don't care what prices they are betting into. If you stay with reputable books there are no such scams, bans or slow pays to deal with. Offshore will definitely get hurt but it will make their lines and promotions that much better in order to compete.

My comps> your imaginary bitcoin withdrawals.. Arguing books will ban and or limit for slamming a 50 dollar promo... Yet no mention of your books limiting or banning yourself for constant cashing out 10 20 50k worth of bitcoin per month..Now that’s funny.. Back to make believe land for you..

[Crusherrr]

My comps> your imaginary bitcoin withdrawals.. Arguing books will ban and or limit for slamming a 50 dollar promo... Yet no mention of your books limiting or banning yourself for constant cashing out 10 20 50k worth of bitcoin per month..Now that’s funny.. Back to make believe land for you..

I'm far more reputable than you'll ever be. You can't even make the $100 donation to become an SBR pro.

[sweep]

Draftkings doing me dirty, and i find it concerning. i might be reading too much into it, but wanted to lay it out here.

buddy of my strictly a rec bettor is also using DK now that gambling is legal.

he got a text last week on the XFL games to boost the moneylines, one was from -220 to +250.

i received no such text nor was it listed under my rewards.

fellas, i have less than a grand in DK. what happens when i start pushing that balance up? they're already excluding me from offers made available to other clients.

having typed that, not sure i would miss DK, unless they started back up with those free money plays like phi +76 vs lakers. that was a good one. feel like i find the best lines at fanduel, fox bet or bet america most of the time.

seems they discontinued the simmons to score first bet and get free $1 play for every pt/ast/reb

fake news....show a screen shot of your buddys offer. There is zero chance this was offered.

[jjgold]

micro limits on odds boost

[Believe_EMT]

micro limits on odds boost

this is correct

[Believe_EMT]

Yeah it seems like unibet stopped the 50% boosts, will be interesting to see if that is temporary.

i'm starting to enjoy these 30% boost live only though.

usually find one or two derivatives at HT or between periods that gives a decent profit margin on the max $50 play. last time was NJ 2.5 goals, 7%+ Arb is no joke

[sweep]

micro limits on odds boost

better than ZERO limits on like wagers offshore

[Believe_EMT]

I am no longer a large player and I have received over 200 at Parx already. almost every other time I log in a see a bonus. and the good thing is they are a one time roll.

tell me more please

my money is just sitting in DK doing nothing much. placed 13 wagers yesterday, they had the best line zero times. fox bet at least trying with their rewards program and their lines are usually good.

should i be moving money back to Parx?

[jjgold]

you only get bonuses if you lose a lot and or active

The bonuses usually very small

Odds boost a little better

[CanuckG]

Get some MLS action

https://pa.betamerica.com/sports/soccer/usa-mls/

[jjgold]