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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Lol Duncan wasn't 40, Parker was old? Parker was in his prime... F are you saying. That was 6 years ago. Tony Parker was 30! Which is your prime in the NBA! Also, that same exact Spurs team went on to win in the most lopsided finals in NBA history the very next year, with all those "old" players dominating.
    Parker was nowhere near his prime the second time the Spurs played Miami, that's one of the dumbest arguments I've heard in a while, and he played game 6 and 7 with a bad hamstring, nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Wade couldn't even get out of the first round of the playoffs after Shaq got old before Lebron came, he's a second tier Hall of Famer, he's not in Lebron's class at all.
    Wade averaged 30 a game in the finals against Dallas. Lebron averaged 17. And scored a total of like 4 points in the 4th quarter in 6 games... Lebron single handedly lost an NBA Finals MVP for Wade. Wade was the best player on the Heat in 2010. So he was better than Lebron. Period.

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    Duncan was old as fuk, Parker was well past his prime and got hurt in the series, it still took a fluke 3 from Ray Allen for them to win, don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I didn't say Shaq was in his prime but he was still very good and any serious NBA fan knows the officiating in that series was disgusting.
    Shaq himself said Wade single handedly carried them that series. I could care less about officiating, you can't win 4 games in the NBA with officiating.... You have to make shots. The guy averaged 35 a game in the finals on an insane shooting percentage. Wade is one of the most efficient guards in the history of the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Wade averaged 30 a game in the finals against Dallas. Lebron averaged 17. And scored a total of like 4 points in the 4th quarter in 6 games... Lebron single handedly lost an NBA Finals MVP for Wade. Wade was the best player on the Heat in 2010. So he was better than Lebron. Period.
    Dumb argument, Lebron impacts the game in so many ways Wade doesn't come close to. Lebron is the far better defender, passer, rebounder, and their comprable when it comes to scoring. The Cleveland team Lebron took to the finals last year Wade wouldn't have gotten out of the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Wade was not consistent in the series and missed a lot of shots in game 7, that Spurs team was not stacked at all, Parker was old and pulled his hamstring after game 5, Duncan was 40, that team had 1 hall of famer in his prime, Kawhi, that's it.
    Wade shot over 50% in game 7. So there goes that argument. Parker didn't pull shit. He was 100% healthy.

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    League getting awful ratings without the King.

    Love him or hate him...the league is hating that he isn't in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Wade shot over 50% in game 7. So there goes that argument. Parker didn't pull shit. He was 100% healthy.
    You're wrong, everyone knows Parker pulled his hamstring, the Spurs said that after the series. Wade was not consistent in the series or in game 7, anyone can get stats in the NBA now because of tempo, its a 4th quarter game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Dumb argument, Lebron impacts the game in so many ways Wade doesn't come close to. Lebron is the far better defender, passer, rebounder, and their comprable when it comes to scoring. The Cleveland team Lebron took to the finals last year Wade wouldn't have gotten out of the first round.
    Wade is the far better defender, and its not close. Wade is 5 inches shorter than Lebron and averages more blocks. He was a nightmare in the passing lanes his entire career, and if it weren't for injures would have won at least 1 DPOY. You couldn't cross the 3 point line against Wade in his prime. How the fukk you think Miami teams were so good?

    Oh, and Wade led team USA in scoring and FG percentage off the BENCH. LMAO. You remember when Spain was about to knock out USA from the Olympics and Lebron was biting his nails? Wade and Kobe sealed the deal while Lebron stood in the corner like a btich. Led team USA in those categories and played less minutes. Also prolly grabbed more steals and blocks than bron too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You're wrong, everyone knows Parker pulled his hamstring, the Spurs said that after the series. Wade was not consistent in the series or in game 7, anyone can get stats in the NBA now because of tempo, its a 4th quarter game.
    Tempo? That series against the Spurs all the games were in the 90s, the hell are you saying. Miami averaged 97 ppg in that series. It's not 115 like it is today, or like it was in Magic's era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Wade is the far better defender, and its not close. Wade is 5 inches shorter than Lebron and averages more blocks. He was a nightmare in the passing lanes his entire career, and if it weren't for injures would have won at least 1 DPOY. You couldn't cross the 3 point line against Wade in his prime. How the fukk you think Miami teams were so good?

    Oh, and Wade led team USA in scoring and FG percentage off the BENCH. LMAO. You remember when Spain was about to knock out USA from the Olympics and Lebron was biting his nails? Wade and Kobe sealed the deal while Lebron stood in the corner like a btich. Led team USA in those categories and played less minutes. Also prolly grabbed more steals and blocks than bron too.
    Lebron can guard the 1-5, wade can only guard other guards, Lebron's defense on Durant was great in the finals against OKC, Lebron's ability to guard bigger and smaller players was why Miami was so strong, they played Lebron at the 4 most years, Wade isn't close to Lebron defensively, he can't even guard frontline players.

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    Lebron got to the finals with a team whose second best player was Mo Williams, Wade couldn't get out of the first round without Shaq or Lebron, its not a debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Lebron can guard the 1-5, wade can only guard other guards, Lebron's defense on Durant was great in the finals against OKC, Lebron's ability to guard bigger and smaller players was why Miami was so strong, they played Lebron at the 4 most years, Wade isn't close to Lebron defensively, he can't even guard frontline players.
    You realize Wade guarded Durant for 50% of that series, right? And Wade guarded Kawai in 2013 a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Lebron got to the finals with a team whose second best player was Mo Williams, Wade couldn't get out of the first round without Shaq or Lebron, its not a debate
    Wade got out of the first round several times without Lebron or Shaq. Shaq hopped on Wade's bandwagon dude. Lebron hopped on too. Lebron couldn't beat the Celtics so he went crying to Wade and fled to Miami. One of the biggest bitch moves ever. Ever wonder why Wade or Bosh didn't go to Cleveland?

    Do you remember what Bosh said in 2010? When asked who he wants as his closer, he said "We want D Wade closing our games. He's been there and he's done it."

    What a slap in the face to Lebron.

    He folded up mentally against Dallas in his prime bro.

    Wade averaged 30. Lebron averaged 17.

    Lebron sabatoged the series because he didn't want Wade to win finals MVP.

    Then Wade had to be the bigger man and say I'll take a step back.

    How quickly you forget these things.
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    Goat wins

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    Agree with Laker on the title of the thread
    Hopefully win throughout the playoffs

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    And 20 points in game 7 of the NBA finals sucks for a hall of famer, if Kobe or Jordan put up 20 in a game 7 of the Finalsthey would be laughed at. Wade couldn't guard Durant anywhere near as well as Lebron. Lebron almost always guarded the other teams best player in the 4th quarter when it mattered, he even covered Derrick Rose in the 4th against the Bulls before Rose had his injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Wade got out of the first round several times without Lebron or Shaq. Shaq hopped on Wade's bandwagon dude. Lebron hopped on too. Lebron couldn't beat the Celtics so he went crying to Wade and fled to Miami. One of the biggest bitch moves ever. Ever wonder why Wade or Bosh didn't go to Cleveland?

    Do you remember what Bosh said in 2010? When asked who he wants as his closer, he said "We want D Wade closing our games. He's been there and he's done it."

    What a slap in the face to Lebron.

    He folded up mentally against Dallas in his prime bro.

    Wade averaged 30. Lebron averaged 17.

    Lebron sabatoged the series because he didn't want Wade to win finals MVP.

    Then Wade had to be the bigger man and say I'll take a step back.

    How quickly you forget these things.
    Horrible arugment. Bosh went to Miami because he didn't want to live in Cleveland, Wade needed Lebron far more than Lebron needed Wade, that's why as Wade has publicly said, he let Lebron run the team and was the second option when they won their 2 titles. Lebron took 2 teams to the finals without a second hall of famer, Wade never came close to doing that.

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    2006 finals wasn't rigged but calls went Miami's way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToffer View Post
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    League getting awful ratings without the King.

    Love him or hate him...the league is hating that he isn't in the playoffs.
    It's sad the league relies on one player that much and sports media has had a big hand in creating that monster. James is one of the best in the last 2 decades, but having to hear about him almost every day during the regular season gets old.


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    I'll double down with the o p and say it's nice to not see the Lakers or their fans in the playoffs also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Horrible arugment. Bosh went to Miami because he didn't want to live in Cleveland, Wade needed Lebron far more than Lebron needed Wade, that's why as Wade has publicly said, he let Lebron run the team and was the second option when they won their 2 titles. Lebron took 2 teams to the finals without a second hall of famer, Wade never came close to doing that.
    I see you still haven't mentioned Lebron's tragic finals performance against Dallas. 2011, in his prime, zero injuries to speak of. You can't explain it. Wade was the 2nd best player in the world after Bryant in 2010. Lebron was 3rd. But barely looked like a top 20 player in that finals. That will never leave his legacy.

    Also Lebron needed Irving to hit one of the biggest shots in finals history to bail him out in game 7 with 40 seconds left, cause Lebron was too scared to take it himself.

    Wade never needed Bron. Wade already won a ring with the best finals performance in NBA history. Lebron needed Wade to win. Simple as that. Without Wade and Irving, Bron would have zero rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    2006 finals wasn't rigged but calls went Miami's way.
    No they didn't. If the Refs wanted Miami to win the series, they wouldn't let Dallas be up by 15 in Game 3 (already up 2-0) with basically 12 minutes left in the game.... Doesn't work that way. A few missed shots from Miami, and they could be looking at a 3-0 deficit, and no rig job can undo that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b1slickguy View Post
    It's sad the league relies on one player that much and sports media has had a big hand in creating that monster. James is one of the best in the last 2 decades, but having to hear about him almost every day during the regular season gets old.


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    The media has nothin to do with it. We watch the playoffs to see the best and bron one of the best there ever been. Of course we will watch less when he not in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    The media has nothin to do with it. We watch the playoffs to see the best and bron one of the best there ever been. Of course we will watch less when he not in it.
    I am watching more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I am watching more.
    You would, lol.. I’m watching same amount of West but no east yet. Obviously if bron was in east I’d have watched a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I am watching more.
    Not a LBJ hater, but am enjoying these games a ton.
    Amazing when these fukks actually put forth an effort.

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    Yay regular season is pretty trash. Just got to look at situational angles. Who’s tryin, who’s taking the night off. Playoffs are cool because teams actually try and care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    It’s nice knowing the east is up for grabs. But first round is still garbage, but I like all the games for betting.
    Most boring first round i've ever seen.

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    Buckets hard to come by in Utah. Serious D being played. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    Buckets hard to come by in Utah. Serious D being played. Love it.
    I must have dozed off during that part, I mostly just saw a bunch of bricks!! Lol

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    Morino trying to hold a conversation lmao

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    this round is pretty terrible but the second round should be pretty good IMO

    all 4 matchups will be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Morino trying to hold a conversation lmao
    Fuk off

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    LeBrat or not, just switch the channel over to NBC Sports and watch any game of the NHL Playoffs and you'll see what real competition looks like. Upsets galore. A total team game.

    If LeBrat was in the playoffs the refs would per usual be rigging every game, every possession, every time he touches the ball to manufacture more money from Discover Cards and Verizon and Mountain Dew et al.

    One's a real sport and the other is barely above wrestling. Fck LeBron.

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