[WWCD]

Would be crazy if the Fins pull it off. They haven't won in Gillette Stadium since 2008.

[Playmaker]

Pats having problems on both sides of the ball now and hope that Josh Gordon and A 32 year old Edelman coming off a torn ACL is the answer? I'm not saying it's over but the PATS lost consecutive by double digits for the first time since 2002 ..Dolphins plus the points maybe? Will see

Edelman is not playing Sunday of course but just saying that the Pats might be in trouble this season but it's September so will see ..

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Oh yeah. This shit is done. I don't care what Tom and Bill have done in the past. They are garbage this year.

Laker, this is a ballsy call. U may be a little rash on this one. Just saying.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Laker, I will say this. 1st time in a while that Tommy has shown bad body-language like that. Tossed the helmet, Tommy knows this isn't a Super Bowl roster.

[TheGuesser]

I'll believe it when they are dead and buried, in the casket, the Undertaker slams the the lid shut, and the bell tolls, and the ref signals the end.

It makes total football sense. It's made total football sense the prior times, when it looked like the end was near. They often have a crap roster, with tons of weaknesses all over. It's never mattered before. Maybe this time it finally will, but I wouldn't bet on it yet.

[44 Mag]

Then take them. I'm telling you they are done. They never lose two in a row.

They did in 2012.....Regular season[edit]

Week	Date	Opponent	Result	Record	Game site	NFL.com recap
1	September 9	at Tennessee Titans	W 34–13	1–0	LP Field	Recap
2	September 16	Arizona Cardinals	L 18–20	1–1	Gillette Stadium	Recap
3	September 23	at Baltimore Ravens	L 30–31	1–2	M&T Bank Stadium	Recap
4	September 30	at Buffalo Bills	W 52–28	2–2	Ralph Wilson Stadium	Recap
5	October 7	Denver Broncos	W 31–21	3–2	Gillette Stadium	Recap
6	October 14	at Seattle Seahawks	L 23–24	3–3	CenturyLink Field	Recap
7	October 21	New York Jets	W 29–26 (OT)	4–3	Gillette Stadium	Recap
8	October 28	at St. Louis Rams	W 45–7	5–3	Wembley Stadium (London, England)	Recap
9	Bye
10	November 11	Buffalo Bills	W 37–31	6–3	Gillette Stadium	Recap
11	November 18	Indianapolis Colts	W 59–24	7–3	Gillette Stadium	Recap
12	November 22	at New York Jets	W 49–19	8–3	MetLife Stadium	Recap
13	December 2	at Miami Dolphins	W 23–16	9–3	Sun Life Stadium	Recap
14	December 10	Houston Texans	W 42–14	10–3	Gillette Stadium	Recap
15	December 16	San Francisco 49ers	L 34–41	10–4	Gillette Stadium	Recap
16	December 23	at Jacksonville Jaguars	W 23–16	11–4	EverBank Field	Recap
17	December 30	Miami Dolphins	W 28–0	12–4	Gillette Stadium	Recap

[Mrtop7]

Oh yeah. This shit is done. I don't care what Tom and Bill have done in the past. They are garbage this year.

looking thru the pages You had pitt and another game that won. Pretty good opinion. I am against you on NE ... I am not betting it. I think my rating of them is high. I also agree the pats are done. Brady in my opinion retires after this year.

. Good luck though. Keep winning.

[thetrinity]

Books will have a big year this season

All of the big name teams suck

[JIBBBY]

Pats sure look beatable this year.. At just 1-2 on the year I don't think any team is going to fear them anymore..

[MalikHusam]

Oh yeah. This shit is done. I don't care what Tom and Bill have done in the past. They are garbage this year.

I have tix. Should I go to witness THE END?

[kingdom]

anybody know pats home record against afc with brady? it super sick

[kingdom]

anybody know pats home record against afc with brady? it super sick

found dated info. from '07 to '16 it was 48-1. not sure if they lost to afc at home last year. last 6 in gillette vs miami pats have won by 120 pts combined lol.

[unusialsusp5]

Pats sure look beatable this year.. At just 1-2 on the year I don't think any team is going to fear them anymore..

not only not fear them. but opponents will be sky high to beat them knowing that they are just as good now. revenge for all those years they got stomped on by them will inspire their effort.

[Goat Milk]

Remember when lakerman argued with me from 2010 to 2014 over who's better Brady or Manning.

This thread is Lakerman simply praying for Brady to collapse.

Not gonna happen.

Pats aren't even at full strength. Edelman is the best slot receiver in football and he'll be coming back soon. Gordon is a good WR too and they'll have him.

They've been missing Trey Flowers, one of the best pass rushers in the league, and Patrick Chung, one of the best safeties in the league.

Not that you know who any of those players are.

Pats won't lose to the dolphins, sorry boss.

And Pats can do whatever they want. Brady can go years without making the ship and then 3 years later win b2b.

He can win superbowl mvp at 47 years old if he wants.

[Str8Mush4Life]

Laker could be right on this one.

Remember when you told us that people were 'clueless' about the NFL if they thought the Eagles could beat the Patriots? And your reasoning was, despite them drubbing the number one defense in the NFL the week before by 31 points, that they would lose because they couldn't handle pressure and your proof was that Jay Ajayi fumbled on the first play of the game against Atlanta?

[mdunlap3]

It’s possible. It’s a wait and see for me probably. Better spots.

[The J-Dizzle]

The thing I find hilarious is for years Tom Brady gets praised for making no names look great but then when he looks average at best then the excuse is that he doesn't have any big names around him.

Exactly my thought. This offense relies on quick slot receivers and RBs that can create separation and YAC for Brady.

[Goat Milk]

dolphins are nothing special. pats can grind out this win. gronk will have a big day. brady will play well.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Remember when lakerman argued with me from 2010 to 2014 over who's better Brady or Manning.

This thread is Lakerman simply praying for Brady to collapse.

Not gonna happen.

Pats aren't even at full strength. Edelman is the best slot receiver in football and he'll be coming back soon. Gordon is a good WR too and they'll have him.

They've been missing Trey Flowers, one of the best pass rushers in the league, and Patrick Chung, one of the best safeties in the league.

Not that you know who any of those players are.

Pats won't lose to the dolphins, sorry boss.

And Pats can do whatever they want. Brady can go years without making the ship and then 3 years later win b2b.

He can win superbowl mvp at 47 years old if he wants.

I am a Pats fan and not even Stevie Wonder would call Flowers and Chung one of the best in the league at their respective positions. Flowers is an above average pass rusher who stands out on NE because they have nobody else. Chung is valuable to NE's schemes but he would be hard pressed to excel in most other systems.

Pats came into the season on a downward trend but they still have enough to win their division this season. If they can't find their groove by week 8, then I would be concerned. SBs aren't won in Sept.

[shocka1212]

I dont care about anything besides the fact that #15 on the dolphins is the fastest human being ever.

[Goat Milk]

I am a Pats fan and not even Stevie Wonder would call Flowers and Chung one of the best in the league at their respective positions. Flowers is an above average pass rusher who stands out on NE because they have nobody else. Chung is valuable to NE's schemes but he would be hard pressed to excel in most other systems.

Pats came into the season on a downward trend but they still have enough to win their division this season. If they can't find their groove by week 8, then I would be concerned. SBs aren't won in Sept.

Everyone just thinks Pats players average but excell in great schemes. Players win championships, not schemes. That's why Bill's scheme got trashed last year by Nick Foles. Because he tried to get cute and start Eric Rowe instead of an All Pro player in Malcom Butler.

Chung is a champion, and has made some of the biggest plays as a safety over the last decade in the games that matter most.

[The J-Dizzle]

I am a Pats fan and not even Stevie Wonder would call Flowers and Chung one of the best in the league at their respective positions. Flowers is an above average pass rusher who stands out on NE because they have nobody else. Chung is valuable to NE's schemes but he would be hard pressed to excel in most other systems.

Pats came into the season on a downward trend but they still have enough to win their division this season. If they can't find their groove by week 8, then I would be concerned. SBs aren't won in Sept.

"Patriots star edge defender Trey Flowers missed the team’s Week 3 affair with the Lions, but when he’s healthy, he’s one of the best at the position. Flowers has recorded a whopping nine total pressures on just 35 pass-rush snaps this season, earning a 16.7 pass-rush productivity that leads all edge defenders with at least 30 pass-rush snaps." - Pro Football Focus

[Grits n' Gravy]

Everyone just thinks Pats players average but excell in great schemes. Players win championships, not schemes. That's why Bill's scheme got trashed last year by Nick Foles. Because he tried to get cute and start Eric Rowe instead of an All Pro player in Malcom Butler.

Chung is a champion, and has made some of the biggest plays as a safety over the last decade in the games that matter most.

So many Patriot players go on and put up huge numbers after leaving NE....not.

Chung left NE for Philly and was ran out of town as one of the worst safeties in league. He is a fit in NE's scheme but he can't cover anyone.

[Grits n' Gravy]

"Patriots star edge defender Trey Flowers missed the team’s Week 3 affair with the Lions, but when he’s healthy, he’s one of the best at the position. Flowers has recorded a whopping nine total pressures on just 35 pass-rush snaps this season, earning a 16.7 pass-rush productivity that leads all edge defenders with at least 30 pass-rush snaps." - Pro Football Focus

2 game sample?GTFOH.

PFF is not a great source for useful stats. Collinsworth's baby that NBC got him.

[JayLA]

I dont care about anything besides the fact that #15 on the dolphins is the fastest human being ever.

Albert Wilson (15) and Jakeem Grant (19) are easily the fastest WR duo in the league.

Grant doesnt see press coverage. In fact, last year the Pats covered Grant press and he went off in the Fish's win against NE.

I'm staying far from this one but it wouldn't surprise me if Miami covers.

[jeffchitown]

I think is a fairly equal game. So probably worth trying a little on Miami moneyline or spread.

[johnnyvegas13]

I'm starting to come around to the idea of this

this is dolphins Super Bowl

would lije it more if they were at home but they have a chance

[pavyracer]

If Dolphins win tomorrow a 16-0 season to break the 1972 Dolphins undefeated season record is not out of the question.

[johnnyvegas13]

If Dolphins win tomorrow a 16-0 season to break the 1972 Dolphins undefeated season record is not out of the question.

Lol no

but pats d is down right now

miami wins this one

pats win rematch and div by a gm

[manny24]

if they had Cutler maybe

[Enkhbat]

Dolphins +7

[johnnyvegas13]

if they had Cutler maybe

Joking ?

Cutler was awful tannehill not good but better than cutler

I can't ignore the state of the pats d

nobody thinks they lose 3 in a row

but phins have value

[PAULYPOKER]

I don't know man..

But I do know they hate to lose especially Brady as he is
coming unglued at the seems........

They've been winning for so long that they're not prepared
to lose...........

They can't handle loss and will implode if they lose this week.......


Is brady contracted beyond this year?

• Is this the end of the Belichick/Brady dynasty????
  
  

[lakerboy]

The end of an era?

[rkelly110]

Chasing Pats, GL LB.