[JIBBBY]

^^ Chico stop posting garbage like that and wasting my time.. I'm gonna take a knee and protest you in a minute you thunder blanket stiffing fool..

[chico2663]

Oh jibby if you only played past pop warner. Jibby ,i can honestly say i would drink a beer with you. AND I DON'T LIKE BEER

[Walulu]

Meanwhile, my stock portfolio is up 17.98% ytd. Thank you Mr. Trump![/QUOTE]

Yes, and you might want to thank Obama for taking the market from an open of 7949.09 to a 19,732.40 close during his 8 year term. So you don't have to do the math, that's a 148% increase. Thankfully you can't claim this as fake news since math doesn't lie.

[Thor4140]

This has nothing to do with the flag and everything to do with this 5 year old spiteful president, who got his ass handed to him in another one of his failed businesses. Remember in 86 this idiot went up against the NFL with his shit league and like he always does when he doesn't get his way, he sues. The USFL was awarded three bucks . Yet his followers, the biggest pigeons of our society, stand by him like the imbeciles that they are. There is also a tweet this hypocrite cok sucker made where he supports protest. This asshole needs to know when to take a loss. Instead he makes it into a double loss.

[Thor4140]

Roy what is a.m.t.? That is why I shut dwightie up when he showed trumps taxes. Because you never realize what it is til you get stuck paying it. No i'm not rich. Getting sick took care of that. It was before obama care and if you were self employed all they had to offer you was a catistropic sp policy. So 2 weeks intensive care 2 weeks of in hospital care and 6 months of out patient care took care of that. Also going 6 months with out a paycheck also helped. But I didn't file bankruptcy. I still have money in the bank (not as much as it was) But i still live a nice life. I don't need some orange fleecer too make me feel better about my life

An if u lived in Canada u would still have all your money Chico This is what these assholes don't understand about our healthcare system. Someone on Fox told them that if we had the Canadian system we would have to wait thirty years to see a doctor and these jackoffs believed it. these no good cok suckers are killing our country and are to stupid to realize it.

[DwightShrute]

This has nothing to do with the flag and everything to do with this 5 year old spiteful president, who got his ass handed to him in another one of his failed businesses. Remember in 86 this idiot went up against the NFL with his shit league and like he always does when he doesn't get his way, he sues. The USFL was awarded three bucks . Yet his followers, the biggest pigeons of our society, stand by him like the imbeciles that they are. There is also a tweet this hypocrite cok sucker made where he supports protest. This asshole needs to know when to take a loss. Instead he makes it into a double loss.

it has everything to do with the flag for many people. As far as those assholes who are taking a knee, ask 25 of them "why are you taking a knee?" and you will not get one unified response. They just don't know. Same with this others snowflakes who protest at Trump events. Most dont have a clue and just repeat the fake new media narrative. Like you do.

[JIBBBY]

it has everything to do with the flag for many people.

Spot on as usual Dwight..

[Ryermkd]

An if u lived in Canada u would still have all your money Chico This is what these assholes don't understand about our healthcare system. Someone on Fox told them that if we had the Canadian system we would have to wait thirty years to see a doctor and these jackoffs believed it. these no good cok suckers are killing our country and are to stupid to realize it.

Some people do wait 5+ years for stuff... Our overall quality is sub-par but equitable. We also pay though the nose regarding Taxes in general, especially income tax. If you're healthy, and know how to save/grow your money you're much better of with the American system. Problem is there aren't that many bright people. Trust me on this one, you'd rather fork the 50k-250k or whatever it costs for an operation and have superior quality knowing you had the best modern medicine can offer in most cases. Your doctors are held to a higher standard regarding their work. If you penetrate up in Canada it's like "oh well". Still a good system we have though. I think both countries need to slightly move in the opposite direction and put more options on the table. Simple as that.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I feel like Trump just should have bought an NFL team instead of running for Pres.

[ByeShea]

Meanwhile, my stock portfolio is up 17.98% ytd. Thank you Mr. Trump!

Yes, and you might want to thank Obama for taking the market from an open of 7949.09 to a 19,732.40 close during his 8 year term. So you don't have to do the math, that's a 148% increase. Thankfully you can't claim this as fake news since math doesn't lie.[/QUOTE]
Today a 3.1% GDP growth quarter (Q2) was confirmed, a (minimum) goal Trump set and talked about - and a level Obama did not reach in 8 years/32 quarters. That's why people with lives don't like socialism.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Math can lie, Shea.

It's just not very good at it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

it has everything to do with the flag for many people. As far as those assholes who are taking a knee, ask 25 of them "why are you taking a knee?" and you will not get one unified response. They just don't know. Same with this others snowflakes who protest at Trump events. Most dont have a clue and just repeat the fake new media narrative. Like you do.

You think they are assholes and their opinions don't matter. You think they are sub human and cannot think for themselves. You have called them everything but a child of God. If you could only see what you say and how hateful you are to people you don't even know, you've never talked to, you've never tried to understand. You are the reason they are taking a knee. That's your answer. They all know why they kneel. You just haven't taken the time to care. You didn't know why they were taking a knee but I'm letting you know why. Look at the awful comments in this forum, how so many of you call them sub human and that's why they kneel. Eventually, you will have to look at yourself because you are full of hate. That what protests does. It exposes the truth. Your hate comes out in these forums loud and clear. This should be a non issue but you are triggered.

Look at yourself. Ask yourself why are you mad? Something tells me that you would be the one spitting and hitting young blacks peacefully protesting in the south. Based on your hate speech, you would have cursed Muhammad Ali for being a conscientious objector. You are they guy that eggs on a mob to hang a man for no reason but the color of his skin. You don't respect anyone's opinion but your own. A lot of people believe in their cause but you don't think their cause has value. If you did, you would know why they kneel. They kneel because you do not think they are equal.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/2...ww.google.com/

AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER DWIGHT. YOU means everyone in this forum. I'm not meaning to single you out but I was going to see if you would get defensive. LOL

[jt315]

Eric Reid doesn't have his facts straight .

[Thor4140]

Yes, and you might want to thank Obama for taking the market from an open of 7949.09 to a 19,732.40 close during his 8 year term. So you don't have to do the math, that's a 148% increase. Thankfully you can't claim this as fake news since math doesn't lie.

Today a 3.1% GDP growth quarter (Q2) was confirmed, a (minimum) goal Trump set and talked about - and a level Obama did not reach in 8 years/32 quarters. That's why people with lives don't like socialism.[/QUOTE]



U have to be a complete jerkoff to think it is Trump policies that have brought that. Don't u remember the great handoff Obama got from the rightie Bush? A complete disaster. Quite the different handoff Trump got from Obama wouldn't u say? Trumps policies haven't done shit because there haven't being any as of yet. Than again u blamed Clinton for 9/11 while once again your guy (who was really in charge)got a memo August 6th about the attack and just tucked it into his desk. U hypocrites won't take blame for shit. If 9/11 was on the dems watch we would be hearing about it every fuking day from u hypocrites. Every fuking day like the worthless Benghazi bullcrap..

[chico2663]

Some people do wait 5+ years for stuff... Our overall quality is sub-par but equitable. We also pay though the nose regarding Taxes in general, especially income tax. If you're healthy, and know how to save/grow your money you're much better of with the American system. Problem is there aren't that many bright people. Trust me on this one, you'd rather fork the 50k-250k or whatever it costs for an operation and have superior quality knowing you had the best modern medicine can offer in most cases. Your doctors are held to a higher standard regarding their work. If you penetrate up in Canada it's like "oh well". Still a good system we have though. I think both countries need to slightly move in the opposite direction and put more options on the table. Simple as that.

you sir have never been to a military or catholic hospital.
In the midwest there is a group of hospitals called the mercy heath care system. I would go on about my experience but it would take forever. Buddy of mine went there complaining of not being able to breath. The told him he had a cold. Prescribed him some medicine and sent him home. Few hrs later he was back there and they gave him more meds and sent him home. The next day he went back and had to be air cared to another hospital because they misdiagnosed him because he had the swine flu. Now you can say why didn't he go to a different hospital. That was because he was in an h.m.o. and they refused to let him. This was a iraq vet and a policeman, who was a hell of a guy. But anyone that says that our health is so much better. Depends on who your h.m.o. allows you to go to .

[Thor4140]

Some people do wait 5+ years for stuff... Our overall quality is sub-par but equitable. We also pay though the nose regarding Taxes in general, especially income tax. If you're healthy, and know how to save/grow your money you're much better of with the American system. Problem is there aren't that many bright people. Trust me on this one, you'd rather fork the 50k-250k or whatever it costs for an operation and have superior quality knowing you had the best modern medicine can offer in most cases. Your doctors are held to a higher standard regarding their work. If you penetrate up in Canada it's like "oh well". Still a good system we have though. I think both countries need to slightly move in the opposite direction and put more options on the table. Simple as that.

GTFOOH with this bullshit. U rather fork over the 250 thousand lol, lol, oohhh, lol. Go to Florida and than tell me how subcare your doctors are to ours. You are not even allowed to sue in Florida that is how shitty they are. They had to make that law to protect those doctors.

[themike78]

You think they are assholes and their opinions don't matter. You think they are sub human and cannot think for themselves. You have called them everything but a child of God. If you could only see what you say and how hateful you are to people you don't even know, you've never talked to, you've never tried to understand. You are the reason they are taking a knee. That's your answer. They all know why they kneel. You just haven't taken the time to care. You didn't know why they were taking a knee but I'm letting you know why. Look at the awful comments in this forum, how so many of you call them sub human and that's why they kneel. Eventually, you will have to look at yourself because you are full of hate. That what protests does. It exposes the truth. Your hate comes out in these forums loud and clear. This should be a non issue but you are triggered.

Look at yourself. Ask yourself why are you mad? Something tells me that you would be the one spitting and hitting young blacks peacefully protesting in the south. Based on your hate speech, you would have cursed Muhammad Ali for being a conscientious objector. You are they guy that eggs on a mob to hang a man for no reason but the color of his skin. You don't respect anyone's opinion but your own. A lot of people believe in their cause but you don't think their cause has value. If you did, you would know why they kneel. They kneel because you do not think they are equal.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/2...ww.google.com/

AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER DWIGHT. YOU means everyone in this forum. I'm not meaning to single you out but I was going to see if you would get defensive. LOL

You still haven't explained why they are protesting though. And I don't think they do either except for the fact they are ignorant racists against a white President. Last time I checked there were no laws discriminating against minorities in this country. These racist people disrespecting our country and President look absolutely foolish.

[chico2663]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/03/health...ath/index.html



doctors could be the 3rd leading cause of death

[chico2663]

You still haven't explained why they are protesting though. And I don't think they do either except for the fact they are ignorant racists against a white President. Last time I checked there were no laws discriminating against minorities in this country. These racist people disrespecting our country and President look absolutely foolish.

This protest was started when obama was in office. Sorry to break the news to you.

[jt315]

Today a 3.1% GDP growth quarter (Q2) was confirmed, a (minimum) goal Trump set and talked about - and a level Obama did not reach in 8 years/32 quarters. That's why people with lives don't like socialism.

U have to be a complete jerkoff to think it is Trump policies that have brought that. Don't u remember the great handoff Obama got from the rightie Bush? A complete disaster. Quite the different handoff Trump got from Obama wouldn't u say? Trumps policies haven't done shit because there haven't being any as of yet. Than again u blamed Clinton for 9/11 while once again your guy (who was really in charge)got a memo August 6th about the attack and just tucked it into his desk. U hypocrites won't take blame for shit. If 9/11 was on the dems watch we would be hearing about it every fuking day from u hypocrites. Every fuking day like the worthless Benghazi bullcrap..[/QUOTE]




Slowest U.S. Recovery since WWII.
Nothing to do with the community organizers excessive regulations that slowed the economy to a crawl.
Bushs' fault .

[DwightShrute]

You think they are assholes and their opinions don't matter. You think they are sub human and cannot think for themselves. You have called them everything but a child of God. If you could only see what you say and how hateful you are to people you don't even know, you've never talked to, you've never tried to understand. You are the reason they are taking a knee. That's your answer. They all know why they kneel. You just haven't taken the time to care. You didn't know why they were taking a knee but I'm letting you know why. Look at the awful comments in this forum, how so many of you call them sub human and that's why they kneel. Eventually, you will have to look at yourself because you are full of hate. That what protests does. It exposes the truth. Your hate comes out in these forums loud and clear. This should be a non issue but you are triggered.

Look at yourself. Ask yourself why are you mad? Something tells me that you would be the one spitting and hitting young blacks peacefully protesting in the south. Based on your hate speech, you would have cursed Muhammad Ali for being a conscientious objector. You are they guy that eggs on a mob to hang a man for no reason but the color of his skin. You don't respect anyone's opinion but your own. A lot of people believe in their cause but you don't think their cause has value. If you did, you would know why they kneel. They kneel because you do not think they are equal.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/2...ww.google.com/

AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER DWIGHT. YOU means everyone in this forum. I'm not meaning to single you out but I was going to see if you would get defensive. LOL

I ain't mad at all. I think its just stupid and very selfish. I ain't say their cause isn't legit either. I am just saying during the game/nation anthem is not the time to do it. I said it several time, I am all for protesting a cause. I am not trying to suppress anyone's voice or protest.

This guy online (talking about the NHL and if the players were gonna sit also) said it perfectly IMO (maybe you'll see better from my POV) ...

Jeremiah David GerhartYou know what is sad? You got players from Sweden, Russia, Canada, Germany, and etc who stand for our flag and don't get to stand for their own flag but still show their respects. Then you got 2 black Canadian Players threatening it. If it's "not about the flag" then not only should they kneel for Americas flag, they should kneel for Canada's as well. This whole thing is sooo overdone. I'm black I'm honestly still confused by all this. If it's not about the flag then don't do it during the anthem, protest some other way. All you are going to do is piss off more fans and make people feel uncomfortable about going to sports due to controversy. Just play the game. Protest later. Being a paid athlete is also considered a job. You are paid to play not protest. I don't protest while I'm at work so they shouldn't either

[Ryermkd]

Alright see ya, I'm out of here for good now... I'll read for fun. Truly lost souls .

You try and inform people, and they simply put the blinders on and just hear/read/think whatever it is that tickles their testicles.
Just a bunch of lefty in here. You old geezers think sites like nytimes and cnn are scholarly sources. Absolutely pathetic.



I'll leave this last tidbit in the hopes you'll learn something, this kid uses big words though, so it might not be for all of you. Subscribe if you appreciate unbiased media.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^Dwight - I didn't mean to attack you.

While I can understand Gerhart's comments and I may agree. Neither one of us can tell another man how, when, what he should protest. I'm personally not a protester because I think I can get what I want without creating a disruption. But, we're talking about issues that are much bigger than me. So, it probably demands a bigger response. People protest any and everything. I think most are petty but I respect anyone that does it in a peaceful way. This sums it up for me...

It's better to shit on the flag and wrap yourself in the Constitution than to wrap yourself in the flag and shit on the Constitution.

[Mac4Lyfe]

A veteran called Saban's show tonight to ask if he would ban NFL alums who won't stand for the anthem in protest.

Saban's response:

[JIBBBY]

^^Dwight - I didn't mean to attack you.

While I can understand Gerhart's comments and I may agree. Neither one of us can tell another man how, when, what he should protest. I'm personally not a protester because I think I can get what I want without creating a disruption. But, we're talking about issues that are much bigger than me. So, it probably demands a bigger response. People protest any and everything. I think most are petty but I respect anyone that does it in a peaceful way. This sums it up for me...

It's better to shit on the flag and wrap yourself in the Constitution than to wrap yourself in the flag and shit on the Constitution.

What you miss Mac is the National Anthem and flag is very dear to the heart and sacred for so many patriotic Americans... People come to ball games and appreciate and come together as Americans during the Anthem.. We appreciate the anthem, flag and America and that is the time to do it.... Vets especially..

To disrupt that during the Anthem with a protest is simply offensive for so many millions of Americans, it's selfish, rude and very inconsiderate... There other platforms of protest for pro athletes..

Trump is right on this.. Other Countries would shoot you for doing this..

[DwightShrute]

^^Dwight - I didn't mean to attack you.

While I can understand Gerhart's comments and I may agree. Neither one of us can tell another man how, when, what he should protest. I'm personally not a protester because I think I can get what I want without creating a disruption. But, we're talking about issues that are much bigger than me. So, it probably demands a bigger response. People protest any and everything. I think most are petty but I respect anyone that does it in a peaceful way. This sums it up for me...

It's better to shit on the flag and wrap yourself in the Constitution than to wrap yourself in the flag and shit on the Constitution.

I can take attacks so don't worry. You are obviously an intelligent guy and life would be kinda boring if people always agreed on everything.

Its called respect for others. People are there to watch a game. Leave the politics out of it. Listen, I support someone's right to call the Queen a c unt but it doesn't mean you should do it while she's shaking hands outside Buckingham Palace. You can also pick your nose or scratch your nuts on the bus but no one wants to watch it. Do it when you get home.

[chico2663]

What you miss Mac is the National Anthem and flag is very dear to the heart and sacred for so many patriotic Americans... People come to ball games and appreciate and come together as Americans during the Anthem.. We appreciate the anthem, flag and America and that is the time to do it.... Vets especially..

To disrupt that during the Anthem with a protest is simply offensive for so many millions of Americans, it's selfish, rude and very inconsiderate... There other platforms of protest for pro athletes..

Trump is right on this.. Other Countries would shoot you for doing this..

What i find ironic is that anyone would worry about what a repub would say in a red state. lol That why i live in texas. We know how to treat libs like roy and brooks in my state. People that can't tell you why reagonomics don't work. Trump is not a conservative and he is not a repub.

[JIBBBY]

Oh jibby if you only played past pop warner. Jibby ,i can honestly say i would drink a beer with you. AND I DON'T LIKE BEER

Chico you brain damaged liberal fool, you come out to So Cal look me up, I'll buy..

[Mac4Lyfe]

What you miss Mac is the National Anthem and flag is very dear to the heart and sacred for so many patriotic Americans... People come to ball games and appreciate and come together as Americans during the Anthem.. We appreciate the anthem, flag and America and that is the time to do it.... Vets especially..
To disrupt that during the Anthem with a protest is simply offensive for so many millions of Americans, it's selfish, rude and very inconsiderate... There other platforms of protest for pro athletes..
Trump is right on this.. Other Countries would shoot you for doing this..

People are mixed on this because WE ALL love our country. Half the country sees it as disrespect, the other half does not. Who's right? Our Constitution is clear and the Supreme Court has affirmed that it is up to each individual. You do your thing and I'll do mine. You stand, I sit, while he kneels. The constitution was written so that we could be free. Free from government telling us what to do. If you think the anthem is a ritual, if you think the flag is an idol, than that's your opinion and the government will grant you that freedom WITH the assurance of not being oppressed, ridiculed or shamed. You cannot force people to do something they don't believe in. Unless you want this country to be more like North Korea or Russia, where if you don't obey the leader, you are locked up and possibly killed. Do you really want to live in a country where the president can have you beheaded because you don't agree with him? The bible is the go to on issues like this. If you are a believer. This very example is the same thing early Christians had to deal with.

Take the example of Paul. He challenged the Jews because they would not accept the converted Gentiles because they didn't follow law. One particular issue was the eating of "unclean" meat. Meat that was sacrificed to idols before they were sold in the market. The church in Antioch (Acts 15) was mixed with Jews and Gentiles. The Jews would not eat meat that they did not know it's origin. Gentiles in the church said it did not matter. Paul eventually declared that all meat was clean because food does not bring us closer to God and we are no worse if we eat or don't eat it. But, he challenged the church that just because you can eat meat, why would you do it if it offend your brother? It would be better to never eat meat again then to cause your brother to sin against his conscious.

1 Corinthians 9:19-23 Paul talks about his freedom and how he used his freedom to convert men. He became all things to all people. How can anyone relate to this black cause if you do not become black?? You can never gain understanding if you don't have empathy.

That's how I feel. I am not compelled to stand but I do stand because I don't want to offend my neighbor. BUT, others do not feel the way I do and that is their right. I respect their right. Not one of them kneeling is disrupting the anthem. Not one.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Its called respect for others. People are there to watch a game. Leave the politics out of it. Listen, I support someone's right to call the Queen a c unt but it doesn't mean you should do it while she's shaking hands outside Buckingham Palace. You can also pick your nose or scratch your nuts on the bus but no one wants to watch it. Do it when you get home.

How can you say that you support someone's right to call the Queen names but only behind her back when it's convenient to... Her? You? the crowd? How can you say someone can pick their nose but then turn around and tell them when to do it? What if their nose is itching now? They should wait for you to give them the appropriate time? See, by you telling them when, where, how, you are disrespecting them. You are saying that they have no value. Why would you relate taking a knee, peacefully, silently with calling the Queen names or scratching your nuts on a bus?

Either you believe they have the right to kneel or you don't which means you think it should be a law. There is no in between. I do not want my government, especially the president, any president to tell me what to do.

[Mac4Lyfe]

What you miss Mac is the National Anthem and flag is very dear to the heart and sacred for so many patriotic Americans...

Pat Tillman is one of the most Patriotic soul I can think of. This man had everything, money, family, success in the NFL and volunteered to lay down his life for his country. He was an incredible shining light. Laid down his life for his brothers. His wife and the Army Ranger friend that fought alongside him both said that they believe Tillman would have taken a knee.

Why would anyone protect the flag and tear up the constitution in the process? The flag is inanimate. It is a symbol but can never be a voice.

[DwightShrute]

How can you say that you support someone's right to call the Queen names but only behind her back when it's convenient to... Her? You? the crowd? How can you say someone can pick their nose but then turn around and tell them when to do it? What if their nose is itching now? They should wait for you to give them the appropriate time? See, by you telling them when, where, how, you are disrespecting them. You are saying that they have no value. Why would you relate taking a knee, peacefully, silently with calling the Queen names or scratching your nuts on a bus?

Either you believe they have the right to kneel or you don't which means you think it should be a law. There is no in between. I do not want my government, especially the president, any president to tell me what to do.

its in the same arena as yelling fire in a crowded movie theatre. I am all for freedom of speech and protest. Call her a C in your stand-up comedy routine, on social media or at the pub. Don't block the freeway because you don't like the election results. Time and place.

Listen,I get your perspective. You make your point. I just disagree. I suspect the same goes for you.

[Mac4Lyfe]

its in the same arena as yelling fire in a crowded movie theatre. I am all for freedom of speech and protest. Call her a C in your stand-up comedy routine, on social media or at the pub. Don't block the freeway because you don't like the election results. Time and place.
Listen,I get your perspective. You make your point. I just disagree. I suspect the same goes for you.

I can relate calling her a C is similar to making noise in a theater. It's a disturbance for sure. But, I'm not sure it's the same as yelling fire, where that could cause a stampede where people could get hurt (even though most theaters are empty these days). It's definitely not the same as silent protest by raising a fist or taking a knee. Which is nowhere similar to blocking a freeway. Although I believe that some protests demands inconvenience, like blocking streets, bridges, etc. Selma?

I understand your point. I respect your beliefs. Because you believe what you believe because you've experienced what you experienced. I can never discount another mans views because I've never lived in his shoes.

[DwightShrute]

I can relate calling her a C is similar to making noise in a theater. It's a disturbance for sure. But, I'm not sure it's the same as yelling fire, where that could cause a stampede where people could get hurt (even though most theaters are empty these days). It's definitely not the same as silent protest by raising a fist or taking a knee. Which is nowhere similar to blocking a freeway. Although I believe that some protests demands inconvenience, like blocking streets, bridges, etc. Selma?

I understand your point. I respect your beliefs. Because you believe what you believe because you've experienced what you experienced. I can never discount another mans views because I've never lived in his shoes.

they aren't the same but they are in the same ballpark (no pun intended). Again, protest and say what you want but choose an appropriate time. This way you won't alienate those who could get behind your message.

[Mac4Lyfe]

they aren't the same but they are in the same ballpark (no pun intended). Again, protest and say what you want but choose an appropriate time. This way you won't alienate those who could get behind your message.

I agree with you... I'm the last person you will ever see at a protest. But, if we all agreed on the same things, this country would have never been born.

The hard thing for me is to watch someone make poor choices. You try to tell them but they do what they believe is right for them, even though you know it's a train wreck. All you can do is give it to God.