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    How much would you dep at a Book giving 200% bonus?

    Let's say you dep 1500. You gt a 3000 bonus, though, the rollover sounds very high you still jump right in.
    So, counting the dep of 1500 and the 3000 bonus you have 4500 x 18 rollover to legitimately use that bonus or even cash out, I suppose?
    4500 x 18 = 81 grand!

    Couple ticklers:
    A. You cannot buy points with that 3000 bonus
    B. You can only count the money you lose toward that rollover unless it's the smaller number wagered won or lost.
    So, it would stay at that 300 if you use example C and D, below.

    C. So, if you put up 600 to win 300 and you win, that 300 will go off your 81,000, leaving at "only" 80, 700 now. And that now, 2700 bonus.
    D. If you do the opposite and lose the 600, you still only knock off that 300 toward the bonus. * Well, if you lose, you now have 900 and a 80,700 bonus yet to roll.
    How's on Gambler's God, earth, can you survive this kind of trap?

    Sam, recommend these guys, so, does Sam not take those juicy looking bonuses?

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    Find another book offering 200% and play the opposite sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Find another book offering 200% and play the opposite sides
    Do you know of any? And if you lose your arse at this one above and get cheated at the new one, you're screwed for a few thou.

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    Bet Phoenix offers 200%

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    Depends on the book, Satanists, and Moo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    Do you know of any? And if you lose your arse at this one above and get cheated at the new one, you're screwed for a few thou.

    1vice.ag

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald View Post
    Depends on the book, Satanists, and Moo.
    Those two sound like no USA player's?
    And after looking at this...'trap," I see..like that movie, No Way Out!

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    I'm actually contemplating a 100% free play bonus, with a 20x rollover attached to it.

    At least I know this book is reputable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald View Post
    Depends on the book, Satanists, and Moo.
    AHEM

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-today-p7.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I'm actually contemplating a 100% free play bonus, with a 20x rollover attached to it.

    At least I know this book is reputable.
    But careful, with those rules above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    But careful, with those rules above?
    Probably Bookmaker or DSI. Safe as they come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    But careful, with those rules above?
    I know, it's pretty heavy. I had a 15x rollover at the same book last year, and it took about three months to complete.

    I like free stuff, Abe. I can't help myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    Probably Bookmaker or DSI. Safe as they come.

    BAUS
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I'm actually contemplating a 100% free play bonus, with a 20x rollover attached to it.

    At least I know this book is reputable.
    i would advice against

    you are playing with monopoly money for a while at 20x

    hard to believe bonus has come to these rollover jokes

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    15x rollover with 50% cash bonus.

    or...

    20x rollover with 100% free play.

    That's a no-brainer, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I know, it's pretty heavy. I had a 15x rollover at the same book last year, and it took about three months to complete.

    I like free stuff, Abe. I can't help myself.
    If it's a USA Book, you wanna PM me? Thanks, either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    Let's say you dep 1500. You gt a 3000 bonus, though, the rollover sounds very high you still jump right in.
    So, counting the dep of 1500 and the 3000 bonus you have 4500 x 18 rollover to legitimately use that bonus or even cash out, I suppose?
    4500 x 18 = 81 grand!

    Couple ticklers:
    A. You cannot buy points with that 3000 bonus
    B. You can only count the money you lose toward that rollover unless it's the smaller number wagered won or lost.
    So, it would stay at that 300 if you use example C and D, below.

    C. So, if you put up 600 to win 300 and you win, that 300 will go off your 81,000, leaving at "only" 80, 700 now. And that now, 2700 bonus.
    D. If you do the opposite and lose the 600, you still only knock off that 300 toward the bonus. * Well, if you lose, you now have 900 and a 80,700 bonus yet to roll.
    How's on Gambler's God, earth, can you survive this kind of trap?


    Sam, recommend these guys, so, does Sam not take those juicy looking bonuses?

    I don't know any book that counts rollover any other way than that Abe.

    It's the lesser amount of risk/win counts toward rollover everywhere AFAIK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWD View Post
    i would advice against

    you are playing with monopoly money for a while at 20x

    hard to believe bonus has come to these rollover jokes
    I don't mind letting a book hold my money for a few months.

    Quit being so cynical, pal. It gives you wrinkles.
    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    If it's a USA Book, you wanna PM me? Thanks, either way.
    It's Bookmaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't know any book that counts rollover any other way than that Abe.

    It's the lesser amount of risk/win counts toward rollover everywhere AFAIK.
    No way! They throw in your dep + the bonus and then the 18 X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I don't mind letting a book hold my money for a few months.

    Quit being so cynical, pal. It gives you wrinkles.


    It's Bookmaker.
    Never knew that had a bigger bonus than 20%? With 5 time roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    Never knew that had a bigger bonus than 20%? With 5 time roll.
    I should mention that it's bitcoin only. Something tells me you don't use that, Abe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I don't mind letting a book hold my money for a few months.

    Quit being so cynical, pal. It gives you wrinkles.


    It's Bookmaker.
    youre right bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I should mention that it's bitcoin only. Something tells me you don't use that, Abe.
    Bitcoin is a brain teaser and I failed the test twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    Bitcoin is a brain teaser and I failed the test twice.
    Are you in your 70s, Abe? I thought I remember seeing that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post

    No way! They throw in your dep + the bonus and then the 18 X.
    I was talking about the B, C and D points I bolded in your reply.

    You must have never noticed but that is how all books count the amount you have bet toward meeting the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Are you in your 70s, Abe? I thought I remember seeing that before.
    I've heard that same rumor. I don't know where it came from? I try to stay anonymous.
    Getting an ID sent in is a big prob. Now, the computer camera doesn't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I was talking about the B, C and D points I bolded in your reply.

    You must have never noticed but that is how all books count the amount you have bet toward meeting the target.
    I rarely look or take it that serious, but that double whammy on this Book is a first for a Book, I do believe?

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    Sam needs to step and give his opinion. He is the reason I bit on this hook.

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    HR Wager?

    Id keep deposit more into 500-1000 range. Depending on what you are allowed to bet per game that rollover can take a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    HR Wager?

    Id keep deposit more into 500-1000 range. Depending on what you are allowed to bet per game that rollover can take a while.
    Yes, like a lifetime, and meanwhile, you can hang on to that dep money?

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    With all the hurdles and traps a gambler might overlook, I say, stay away from this Book, far, far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    With all the hurdles and traps a gambler might overlook, I say, stay away from this Book, far, far away.
    HR Wager and its owner George have been solid for me for a couple years now. Never issues being paid thus far. My last payment was in the mid to higher 4 figure range. Do what you wish of course as it is your money but that is my experience.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post

    I rarely look or take it that serious, but that double whammy on this Book is a first for a Book, I do believe?
    I think that's exactly the same usual deal at Betphoenix/Skybook etc. 18x deposit + bonus. Betonline the same way but with lower x

    I agree it's a big rollover amount but not that unusual really.

    Some places make the rollover = deposit + bonus + any winnings from the freeplay above it's value. That can be a trap.



    As Downsouth points out the max bet you are assigned at HR might make it tougher than other places to achieve. Also from reports you may also be limited to a max payout equal to your last deposit. Which makes getting it out tougher than BP or BOL if you win big too.

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    I just got denied the bonus because I made a withdrawal earlier this week.

    The email I received was a total lead on.

    What are the max bets at HR Wager? I'm familiar with them, but always thought they were smalltime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I just got denied the bonus because I made a withdrawal earlier this week.

    The email I received was a total lead on.

    What are the max bets at HR Wager? I'm familiar with them, but always thought they were smalltime.
    500 I do think. And that makes it tough, also, when you need 81 thou to roll. Are you kidding me?
    They also seemed to jack their point buying odds these past 2 months. So, another trap I was snagged into.
    They are claiming of payouts frequently, even with with that big bonus. There is NO WAY!

    Just think on that 81 grand for a few minutes.

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