[ABEHONEST]

I don't like those bonus terms either Abe.

I would take the CRIS/Bookmaker one Cappy mentions too (if they would let me have it anymore). That suits me way better.

But it's not some sort of scam offering these big ones.

People who like them probably approach them in one of two ways. 1) Go hard at the beginning and either win a big balance or lose the bonus so they dont need to be concerned about the rollover any further. or 2) Fixed unit bettors who don't have big balance swings, dont really care about any size rollover and look at the overall number and pretty know in advance they will complete it in 6 months or 12 months or whatever.

I don't want to be tied into that personally but it's not a scam to openly offer it with transparent terms for those that do.

Okay, thanks for this reply. This 18 roll Book with that dep + 200% bonus, should not be allowed in the gambling circuit at all.
Too close to being another scam. I snoozed, but still, it should not even be presented to any gambler or offered from any Book who wants to keep a good reputation. Once a Book gets a legit black mark, webs like SBR and it's members can start a negative fire that could burn forever.

I hope they get word about this and I bet they will. Maybe they will wise up? I know I have.

[Optional]

I'm waiting for a reply from the owner about another player who has completed a 6 figure rollover and is having trouble with withdraw limits.

I'll point him to this thread when he replies if you like. He may even let you out of it if you haven't lost/won too much already.

Or you can email and ask him yourself even if you prefer. I believe he is back from holidays tomorrow. Send an email attention to George.

[captrobey]

No absentminded Optional, it hasn't been and I DO NOT like bs and hypocrisy if I suspect it's there and I do in this case. Maybe you are friendly with this Book? You seem like a friend.
Did you answer the most important 2 questions I asked?
I don't think so and neither did anyone else.

1. Have you ever seen a Book combine the Dep/Bonus and have a high rollover such as this Book? You seem arrogant enough and confident enough, so, answer that one for starters.
2. Now, being a big fan of theirs and have cashed out several times [ ], right? Did you take a similar bonus? And how did you manage it, if you actually pulled that genius deal off?

This Book is poor and I do think they do tamper with your odds when they see you can pick two winners in a row. That is almost for sure they did, but today, I cannot prove it because I had to give up many of those "higher" point buying odds. Like, going from 110 and buying 1 point if you want to pay 30 more cents to the dollar. And probably jumping to an additional 15 if you buy another 1/2 point? Something like that.
I do believe they did for it awhile when I was doing pretty good, and it was not the case a few months ago.

All fair in love and war, you say? No, not when you tamper and designate rules to strap one individual player. A player already wasting his time and not realizing [unlike Optional] he has little or no chance to beat this concrete contract he has fell into.

Why waste a bet with them where you'll never collect the win money unless you're a genius like unowo and beat this rap?
And, Optional, do you have better advice for the fellow above...named ....
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..... captrobey

I would do $350 . That way the rollover is a bit lower and with that you can start off with a good amount. Even with a 100% bonus (700) hit 4 games now i know there is juice but still this would just be a bit lower but you get the idea . This is not impossible to hit 4 games.

1 game- $ 1400
2 games- $2800
3 games -$5600
4 games-$11200

My Answer ________________________________________ _______________________
Wut?
You have right at 19,000 to roll. You have 350 to hang on to til it's rolled. Playing the bonus money will not get you one buck closer to the 19,000 needed. That 350 alone must get you past that 19,000 because winnings do not count on the rollover....right?

It is actually just the deposit amount . So 20Xs $350 but just on the $350 at least on this promo for DSI .

[ABEHONEST]

I'm waiting for a reply from the owner about another player who has completed a 6 figure rollover and is having trouble with withdraw limits.

I'll point him to this thread when he replies if you like. He may even let you out of it if you haven't lost/won too much already.

Or you can email and ask him yourself even if you prefer. I believe he is back from holidays tomorrow. Send an email attention to George.

Sure. Thanks. I see that 80,000 plus as being futile and a waste of time. Anyone who can reach that 18 x roll and actually collect, I say, wow.

No winner here but have my dep still.

[captrobey]

Okay, thanks for this reply. This 18 roll Book with that dep + 200% bonus, should not be allowed in the gambling circuit at all.
Too close to being another scam. I snoozed, but still, it should not even be presented to any gambler or offered from any Book who wants to keep a good reputation. Once a Book gets a legit black mark, webs like SBR and it's members can start a negative fire that could burn forever.

I hope they get word about this and I bet they will. Maybe they will wise up? I know I have.

I know the DSI one gets confusing because it actually says 200%. But once you see it ,it is actually the 100/100 . The SB is the 20Xs roll (Just deposit) the Casino is i think something like 60Xs i cannot remember . But i figure i just go Max bet and see if i can build it up. I normally lose but once in a blue moon you can pick up something. But the SB is not bad. Sometimes i go in casino and get it to just $400 then go all in with the FP. Only straight bets count. It is doable i brought $350(Plus their FP ) up to $12000 and got stupid and lost $8000 in the casino. I actually did this before bringing it to $13000 and lost it in casino too. But it is doable. I just was stupid and lost it . I did about a year ago cash out $10000 though lol . They normally give you the 200% promo around holidays but it pops up here and there like around March madness etc...

[ABEHONEST]

I know the DSI one gets confusing because it actually says 200%. But once you see it ,it is actually the 100/100 . The SB is the 20Xs roll (Just deposit) the Casino is i think something like 60Xs i cannot remember . But i figure i just go Max bet and see if i can build it up. I normally lose but once in a blue moon you can pick up something. But the SB is not bad. Sometimes i go in casino and get it to just $400 then go all in with the FP. Only straight bets count. It is doable i brought $350(Plus their FP ) up to $12000 and got stupid and lost $8000 in the casino. I actually did this before bringing it to $13000 and lost it in casino too. But it is doable. I just was stupid and lost it . I did about a year ago cash out $10000 though lol . They normally give you the 200% promo around holidays but it pops up here and there like around March madness etc...

Yes, I know about that little snoozer, too. They like to catch fish with their bare hands. The sleepy and soft one's without scales or barbs.

[ABEHONEST]

Thanks, Optional, I'll wait and see what this George fellow says to you.

[BeatTheJerk]

Bet Phoenix offers 200%

Their limits are 500. Good Luck that's a lot of carry over to get any winnings back.

[ABEHONEST]

Their limits are 500. Good Luck that's a lot of carry over to get any winnings back.

As do all, I believe.
And add; smaller limits on money lines, parlays, etc. You get the picture.

[BeatTheJerk]

As do all, I believe.
And add; smaller limits on money lines, parlays, etc. You get the picture.

I clearly do ...

[Sam Odom]

Sam Odom is not a moderator or SBR employee.

Not sure how or why ABE got so derailed

[ABEHONEST]

Not sure how or why ABE got so derailed

I think I got confused after you gushed so much over this Book?
And was still so confused, I even forgot to thank you.

[Sam Odom]

ABE... they pay and pay fast

C/S top notch

Bonuses are big

altho... dont expect to deposit 300 then win 30,000.00

most books arent for everyone

[ABEHONEST]

ABE... they pay and pay fast

C/S top notch

Bonuses are big

altho... dont expect to deposit 300 then win 30,000.00

most books arent for everyone

I know you're sincere but I don't want to climb Mt Everest for indefinite period of time, fighting, to see if I can keep some funds left in my kitty.
On the other hand; I suppose it could be a life-extender, if this challenge is taken for the incentive to stay alive, only, to keep the tireless effort of getting that enormous 80 grand rollover covered. This way I could be assured of living another 5 years.