[Joey12345]

I was going to wait unitl tomorrow to call my cc company, but I'm not sure if we'd be able to "cancel" the dispute" By law, the CC companies can't knowingly process online gambling transactions. Once we tell them what the charges are for, and why we want to dispute them. I'm not sure we can go back later and say "hey, I got my money, you can send the casino thier money." The CC company might not want to. They might tell us to make our own arrangements.

If you eventually get paid, which you won't, you will win twice then just join another book...simple as that.

[Santo]

Well not quite, you may well find yourself blacklisted if Jazette share the information.

[bangkoklucky]

my dream outcome would be to get paid AND win a dispute. LOL. That would be worth getting blacklisted.

But i am sure, that i can tell **** my dispute was resolved if that happens.

Maybe Trun is right. I will get a wire today. But i have given up checking online every day and not seeing it.

[TRUN]

fortune -- my concern for those like my 7 pending is the amount - i would think there is a good chance they were sent as one - like I have been told mine are - suposedly that is what they are looking into more today for me but they have confirmed it many times - 1 wire --- i just wonder about hte amount ---

Please understand that I am still concerned but some good news is better than none at this point - I have worries something else goes wrong before I get the major payment that I need

[Joey12345]

Jazette is too stupid to know how to share information. There are a good handful of reputable books around that are paying. You gonna try and tell me they wouldn't be happy as hell to grab new customers due to this blunder?

[bangkoklucky]

if i had known Trun was getting paid, I would have waited to do the dispute. I just kicked t off yesterday. In retrospect, i should hav ewaited one more day

[fortunescore]

I never asked them if it was being sent as 1 or as 4. I don't think they know. The processor would be in charge of that. I think they will do whatever it takes to get it thru.

Trun- What was the transaction detail on your bank account as far as where it came from and what it said?

[jstblaze]

good question about the transaction detail?

that could help all of us out a lot, we could call up and ask if our wires were sent!

[marc]

Historically, EFS/SPortingbet/Jazette/sportsbook.com whatever you want to call these guys, have NEVER been able to tell you when the processor sent the funds. I don't believe the larger wires were sent.

The stry doens't make sense. Supposedly they sent out a small test batch of whihc Trun and Rodgerthedoger were part of. But then they didn't even bother waiting to see if those wires hit. And none of them have so far. But now Trun is saying he got one that was sent on the 19th. I'm wondering if the processor only sent out the small amounts, just to make sure they'd go through. Maybe only now will start sending out the larger wires.

Until sportsbook.com can offer proof that the wires were in fact sent, or provide a contact number at WC wire, I see no reason to belive that the wires were actually sent on the 19th

[TRUN]

when i call my bank at lunch i will try and provide some more details but to be honest with you all -- I will not be posting all the info on the wire until all my money is safe and sound -if that makes me a liar then so be it - however as much as I am willing to help and have been - I am looking out for myself in some aspects - that saying that I even find out anymore -i dont know what they will tell me nor do i want to red flag my account in any way -- I will say on my on-line statement it is really vague and basically just a wire transfer

[fortunescore]

Marc,

I agree. They might have been sent to the processor on the 19th, but after that, who knows. I am sure that the new processor would wait to collect a bunch before starting to send them out. It also sounds like it is not just a single bank to wire. From what I gather, it might be bounced around a few banks to kill any sort of easy trace.

But hopefully Trun can get us some info as to what the detail on that transaction said.

[fartikacular]

Trun please tell us the details of your successful wire, what is the description, does the bank statement (assuming its online) say its citadel commerce or some other description?

i was told 7-10 bus. days for my $12k withdrawal, sent the 20th.

still nothing.

all it really takes is for one of us to show proof we received something, and we can breathe easier hehe

[fortunescore]

Trun,

Also remember, these people that work at your bank are not trying to get suspicious, most just "work there". I would not fear any of you banks employees as far as you getting info.

[Joey12345]

The problem I have with TRUN is the fact that he is the only one around who is saying he received something. With the various forum sites around shouldn't we be seeing others too somewhere?

[kamo]

Yeah, why so secretive about it now?

It's not going to hurt you to post the info. Unless you have a deal worked out with Sportsbook to help them with their stall tactics....hmmm?

Personal reasons, looking out for myself...yeah, yeah

gives us a break.

How come your the only that received a wire

If you are for real, you will post the info, other than that, I would take what he says with a bit of sceptisism

[Dazzez]

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[TRUN]

Joey -- I agree 100% with you -- being that I still have withdrawals that I was told were sent on the 13th of March it makes me still concerned

Ok - I called my bank --- not much info -- they have told me that it does not show where it comes from or when it was sent -- they can get this info but i have to talk to somone else and bla bla bla ---they also told me that when it shows up it would show in my account - this one came this morning -- I know its not much and yes I didnt push for more answers - im just glad something is there -- as always - my disclaimer - believe it or not - that is your choice - i do assure you - by looking at it on my statement - it basically just says its a wire transfer

[marc]

Is there anyone else here who is waiting on a wire under $1500. Maybe that's why trun is the only one to have recieved his money.

[Dazzez]

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[fartikacular]

if you ask sportsbook.com to cancel ure withdrawal they will gladly, and put money back in ure account...

but how so quickly, if the money was sent via wire, taking 7-10 bus. days!

leading me to believe that they have NOT sent out anything to anyone as of late....

i guess i just need patience... or a life..

[TRUN]

think what you want - make your own decisions but what i have said on every post is accurate - think of how many times I came on here and gave info that someone called and verfied with your normal CSRs and they were surprised that you knew about that........I dont care who believes me and who does - good luck to all - at this point, yes i will be surprised if within 24 hours you do not see others with money - and I have never said that before --- if i wanted to lie I would say - guess what I have all my withdrawals -- but I dont nor do they have a good answer were 7 of the 8 are at this point -- im off to do real work now -- good luck and i will check in later if i have any other info

[jstblaze]

Wires were not supposedly sent until the 19th.

other than the "test batch" as we all have deemed it that may have gon eout the week before. there are numerous reasons these could be taking so long atthis point.

maybe the processor took a few days toprocess the first test batch.

maybe the amounts are what held up the tes batch.

anyways, the wire TRUN received was from 3/19. This was officially the first day wires were sent to processor. He got this 8 days from then. That is pretty good considering everything.

HI smay be one fo the first that went out that day, there may not be many other players whose wires went out that early, i think there is only 1 on this forum.

We have psoitive word, and a positive outcome, he did get a wire, so they were sent, IT IS NOT COMPLETE BULLSHT THAT THEY WERE SENT! IS THAT NOT REAL POSITIVE> I WAS only 50/50 that WIRES WERE EVEN SENT OUT AT ALL. NOW WE KNOW THEY WERE SENT.

[jstblaze]

HEy Fartikakular,

I aksed for my wire to be cancelled and for teh funds to be put back in my account, an dthey tol dme IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE, because my wire was already sent.

IF i wanted it cancelled they would have to trace it and it would take a couple days, and then maybe they could put money back in my account.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.

Can someone else ask for their wire that was sent last week to be cancelled and put back in their account? See what happens, they will obviously check before they do this, so it wont hurt to ask.

[jonshields]

I have 3 bank wires coming. The first one that was sent 3/19 was for $808. I haven't seen anything yet FWIW.

I also have tried several times to get the wired money back to my account, which they have said is impossible. I take that as a good sign. Will keep everyone posted if I receive any of these wires.

I trust that TRUN is being honest. But again, for those conspiracy theorists, they can't stall forever. If no other wires hit by early next week, we'll know whats up.

And to INSIDER, the guy who says he's from sportsbook. How can you possibly defend giving out the name WC Wire while saying they won't give you more info or you can't breach the confidentiality of your processors. You gave out the name, that IS breaching it. If they were legit, we could find them on a google search and get all their info. The fact that the CS reps and this guy give out a generic sounding untraceable name "from Europe somewhere" is obviously a stalling tactic and needs to be looked into. It doesn't pass the laugh test to give out the name of the processor and then cry foul when asked what country they are from or what their charges would be listed under. The rep did say that once it hits your bank, there will be a listed phone number and address for WC Wire. While I never believed this it wouldn't hurt to check. TRUN, once the wire hits your bank statement, will you check out if this is true? thanks.

jon

HEy Fartikakular,

I aksed for my wire to be cancelled and for teh funds to be put back in my account, an dthey tol dme IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE, because my wire was already sent.

IF i wanted it cancelled they would have to trace it and it would take a couple days, and then maybe they could put money back in my account.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.

Can someone else ask for their wire that was sent last week to be cancelled and put back in their account? See what happens, they will obviously check before they do this, so it wont hurt to ask.

[marc]

jstblaze,

Here is the question I have. Trun has 7 wires he's been waiting on for 12 days now. Why is Jazzette so unwilling to contact WC Wire and find out where the money is. I would rather Jazette come back and admit that the funds weren't really sent when they said they were, then hear that they have no clue where the money is.

But the fact that no one is even willing to pick up the phone and call WC Wire and find out what the hell is going on, is just more proof that the people at Jazette just don't give a damn. Sure we might get our money. But I don't want to wait another month.

As the old saying goes "In God we trust, all others pay cash."

[jstblaze]

I dont want to wait a month either. I think is Trun did get a wire today, than we sure will not be waititng a month.

But to answer your question,

Jazzette i slazy and does not want to contact the porcessor until they know there is a big problem,a nd not just soem delays.

Maybe they have contacted the processor who says everyhting is fine, some wires will just take 10 days or so.

Maybe the wire processor is just as bad at giving helpful information as sportsbook staff is?

I dont know. There is soemthign that happened to that first batch of wires, either they were delayed, or just not actually sent anywhere clsoe to the 13th. Maybe they were all big value numbers or soemthing.

The factthat a wire was received, means, THEY WREENT COMPLETELY LYING WHEN THEY SAID THEYS ENT OUT WIRES.

I thought there was a good chance they ahdnt even sent them yet, but it appears, not certain, that they have, and maybe it really just be a waiting game.

Alot fo the people promoting chragebacks and impatience on here, are ones who deposited a lot more than they withdrew.

[Dazzez]

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[ModernManshustle]

Believe it or not -- yes I ahve money in my account -- 1037.58 -- I was charged $25

now the wierd thing is this is the one from the 20th not any of the 7 from the 13th -- Im concerned the amount raised a red flag - but choose to believe it or not at least some is here -- now I just have to figure out where the rest is at this time

Other option is like some of you suggested that maybe it never was sent on the 13th -


But it looks like we all should see some results finally

trun,

the 7 combined that were sent on the 13th, did they combine for over 10k?

[ModernManshustle]

Oh and I asked them about stiffedandburned's money and they said they have strapped on back of a donkey and will be processing the donkey to a boat today and he should arrive in 7-10 business days.

lolololol

[jbol]

My friend called his cc card company for me (****) and explained to them the charge back situation. They said if they find that it is anything related to offshore gambling, they are not responsible and basically the money is lost. However, if you can disguise it somehow, a charge back may work.... but I don't know how you can once the fraud department investigates the url/website that you used to deposit is related to gambling....

great, so were f***ed

[marc]

each bank has thier own policy regarding chargebacks

[Dazzez]

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[marc]

Again it is all up to the issuing bank, and who you speak to. SOme bank reps might give the response that if its online gambling we don't want to deal with it, others will be more helpful

[ModernManshustle]

You: also i had a question about my wires that were sent on the 22nd, in my email it said 2 wires were sent out, but are they seperate wires?
You: or did they go out as one?
Ahmed Jones: They will go as one.
You: that seems like a long time for express courier, even international
Ahmed Jones: Delays are caused by the buitup backlog of withdrawals. Once they have been cleared, the time will quicken.
You: but i don't understand how backlog would affect mail delivery time, only processing time right?
Ahmed Jones: Once again, I apologize for the delay. I will be with you in a moment.
Ahmed Jones: We send the funds to a processor to be sent to customers. They can only process so many at any given time.
You: alright
You: so for my wire transfer i was told they went out on the 22nd, does that mean the funds were sent to the processor on the 22nd or that they were wired to my bankaccount from the processor on the 22nd?
Ahmed Jones: Sent to the processor on the 22nd.
You: so when were my wires actually sent out?
You: i need to know that, so i can have an idea as to when they would arrive
Ahmed Jones: We do not have that information. The funds will reach you within 7-10 business days.
You: how can you say 7-10 business days if your not sure when the processor sent them, the processor could have been backed up and held on to my wire for days...right?
Ahmed Jones: That is the reason for the delays. Because of the current backlog withdrawals are being sent in batches.
You: so its impossible for you guys to know what day my wire was actually sent out by the processor
You: i might have been the following week? instead of the 22nd like i was told
Ahmed Jones: It is our responsibility to ensure that your money is always sent using reliable and trustworthy companies, and we have now established new partnerships which we trust will be long-term solutions. Unfortunately, our commitment to find the right partners has slowed us down - but there was never any doubt that your money was absolutely safe. Please accept our humble apologies and we thank you for weathering this storm with us.
You: no i understand, i'm just trying to figure out how accurate the 7-10 working day timeframe is because it's only accurate if i know when the wire is sent
You: and you just said you can't be sure of when it was sent, i could have been sent a week later then i realize
You: right?
Ahmed Jones: That is correct. We do not have a more accurate timeframe for you. We can, however, assure you that you will receive the funds.
You: ok
Ahmed Jones: Thank you for waiting. I will be right with you.
Ahmed Jones: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
You: actually maybe you could help... so on average when you guys told me my wires were sent on the 22nd, and that actually means they were sent to the processor, would the processor likely send it out within 24-48hr and no longer?
Ahmed Jones: That depends on the volume sent. The withdrawals are sent out in batches.
You: so it could take many business days before the processor even sends out the wire?
You: how come you guys can't ask them to confirm when mine and others were sent out
Ahmed Jones: We take full responsibility for your funds. Please bear with us.
You: i understand i'm just worried because i thought my wires went out on the 22nd but the processor might not of sent them until today for instance, so i have no timeframe really on when i should expect them
Ahmed Jones: I understand that you are worried. Please rest assured that your funds are safe and will be delivered.
You: but honestly it could take more then 10business days since you guys can't be sure of when they are sent... right?
Ahmed Jones: So far 10 business days is the longest the funds have taken to reach customers.

so basically we have no actual idea of when the wire was actually sent, all we know is when it was sent to there processor.

[marc]

They have zero appreciation for the fact that some people actually need the moeny to pay bills. If I'm the processor, obviously I'm going to process the small amounts first and hold onto the larger amounts. We're talking about millions of dollars. The daily interest is significant. The processor has a lot of incentive to move slowly