[wtt0315]

ok you realized denver has played 5 of the top 10 passing teams in the nfl and oakland is 9th not that bad.

Serious running threat? Serious as in 3.8 ypc and 25th in the league.

D is overrated too, given up 25 passing TD's even with all the cup cakes on the schedule.
Pats are a bad match up for them.

[nvrlose37]

Yeah Colts only had Marshal Faulk, Edgerrin James and Joseph Addai.

James had four seasons of 1500 + yards.

McGahee and Moreno are a joke for comparison. Peyton had so many great teams and choked.

Faulk was with Peyton his rookie year. Edge was good for the time he was there but they didnt rely on him at all. And Addai??? LOL that was a good one, thanks for that laugh.

Mcgahee is just as good as Edge was. Moreno is finally playing to his potential. Sounds like you are butthurt over Peyton for some reason but get over it.

[wtt0315]

hes just mad because san fran gets to play powerhouses like arizona and st louis and still wont go far in the playoffs

Faulk was with Peyton his rookie year. Edge was good for the time he was there but they didnt rely on him at all. And Addai??? LOL that was a good one, thanks for that laugh.

Mcgahee is just as good as Edge was. Moreno is finally playing to his potential. Sounds like you are butthurt over Peyton for some reason but get over it.

[k13]

hes just mad because san fran gets to play powerhouses like arizona and st louis and still wont go far in the playoffs

Arizona beat the pats.

NFC West best division by far this year.

[Slimpickens]

Theres only a handful of serious contenders in this league. So arguing what division is best is alittle silly.

[sarasmith]

Pats -3 @ Denver?? I never cease to be amazed by some off the stuff I read on here. What did the line close at during the regular season at Foxboro, Pats -7 right? So the the Pats would have been -1 @ mile high there and then. Since then the Broncos and manning have found their grove and have been steamrolling teams. Line will be Broncos -2.5. Broncos win by a TD.

[PAULYPOKER]

Pats -3 @ Denver?? I never cease to be amazed by some off the stuff I read on here. What did the line close at during the regular season at Foxboro, Pats -7 right? So the the Pats would have been -1 @ mile high there and then. Since then the Broncos and manning have found their grove and have been steamrolling teams. Line will be Broncos -2.5. Broncos win by a TD.

So, you do have a working brain..........

[sarasmith]

I'd have thought you knew that when I immediately outed you as a fraud?

[LeagueCapper]

Those games were in 1st 5 weeks of season before Manning could get the offense to mesh with his unique style of play,

I expected Manning not to do this well but he has made a firm believer out of his team and myself as well...........

For the record:I can't stand Manning..............

why do people keep saying this? john fox brought the exact system that Manning was running in Indy to the team just to favor Manning. Manning is running the exact plays he did in Indy, just with different players. Needed time to mesh?? Please, continue with the excuses. Denver has played a cupcake schedule, facts are facts, they are just 1 win out of 4 against playoff teams.

[wantitall4moi]

Patriots will be favored

[Slimpickens]

Patriots will be favored

Yea, the Super Bowl favorites are gonna be underdogs in there 1st playoff game at home.

[k13]

Patriots will be favored

1:00PM

25302 DEN won't play in AFC Championhip Game

+160

This could have some potential in that case.....

[wantitall4moi]

Patriots are still the favorites from the AFC side, only reason Denver took a little more money was because Houston lost, Houston wins and gets HF then Denver goes back up to 5-1. Pats will technically be second favorite over all but will be favored game to game, thats how those pools work.

Pats will open -2/2.5 and they will move according to the money. Either right to -3 or right to -1 with massive vig.

Denver has been a dog more times this year than Pats have in 3 years. They were even a home dog to Houston (whom NE spanked hard) and lost to them by 6.

[wantitall4moi]

1:00PM

25302 DEN won't play in AFC Championhip Game

+160

This could have some potential in that case.....

Yeah thats their one game odds, they will get a bye week and host the winner of a wild card game. You think if books figured them to be a -160 fav (with a +135/140 dog) they would offer +160 now?

[Slimpickens]

Patriots are still the favorites from the AFC side, only reason Denver took a little more money was because Houston lost, Houston wins and gets HF then Denver goes back up to 5-1. Pats will technically be second favorite over all but will be favored game to game, thats how those pools work.

Pats will open -2/2.5 and they will move according to the money. Either right to -3 or right to -1 with massive vig.

Denver has been a dog more times this year than Pats have in 3 years. They were even a home dog to Houston (whom NE spanked hard) and lost to them by 6.

NFL AFC Conference Sun 12/30 1:00PM
Denver Broncos	+163
New England Patriots	+245
Houston Texans	+310
Baltimore Ravens	+1025
Cincinnati Bengals	+2300
Indianapolis Colts	+3100

[Slimpickens]

1:00PM

25302 DEN won't play in AFC Championhip Game

+160

This could have some potential in that case.....

So the Broncos will be -200 to -220 against the Pats.

[DJ Dalamar]

why do people keep saying this? john fox brought the exact system that Manning was running in Indy to the team just to favor Manning. Manning is running the exact plays he did in Indy, just with different players. Needed time to mesh?? Please, continue with the excuses. Denver has played a cupcake schedule, facts are facts, they are just 1 win out of 4 against playoff teams.

They are just regurgitating the ESPN line that only reason Den has struggle it was because manning is SO brilliant the mere mortals that he plays with are having a hard time keeping up.

[wantitall4moi]

NFL AFC Conference Sun 12/30 1:00PM
Denver Broncos	+163
New England Patriots	+245
Houston Texans	+310
Baltimore Ravens	+1025
Cincinnati Bengals	+2300
Indianapolis Colts	+3100

Best bet on that board is Houston who will be hosting the AFC championship game if they win this week. But theyre +320 at pinnacle so better odds at a better book.

Those odds are directly reflecting this weeks opponents. If Denver didnt have a bye week they wouldnt be favored by nearly as much as they are.

Even though Hou is a TD fav on the road they are still on the road to a play off team. I doubt either team tries too hard so Houston could possibly lose, unless they are definitely playing for HF though out. I havent been looking at much this week so I dont know.

But Houston at +320 is a no brainer right now and I cant believe the odds are that high on them, because they will be favored over everyone every game at home including Denver and New England, even though NE stomped them pretty easily.

[nvrlose37]

They are just regurgitating the ESPN line that only reason Den has struggle it was because manning is SO brilliant the mere mortals that he plays with are having a hard time keeping up.

I mean they went from Tebow to Manning in an offseason. You dont think there was a learning curve?

[stefan084]

what makes people on here hate either brady or manning so much? they seem like good guys . life not turning out the way you wanted it to maybe? taking out some frustration on the computer maybe?

[GunShard]

Pats -3 @ Broncos +3

[zoo youk]

I mean they went from Tebow to Manning in an offseason. You dont think there was a learning curve?

for real and add the fact

the guy had major neck surgery that most people would never be able to throw a football again let alone play in the fkn NFL. the guy is still not even 100%. any who thinks other wise is off their rocker.

[easyliving]

People that think the Patriots would be dogs against the Broncos need to reconsider their betting future. Do you realize how much one sided action that would create? People buying Patriots up to 3 if the line is below to, People teasing the patriots up to over a td, taking Pats ML at a + number. No matter who the pats are playing taking them the Pats @ + money would be no brainer. With all this in mind if nothing changes from now till the game line will be somewhere between pk-pats-2.5.

[Slimpickens]

People that think the Patriots will be favored over the Broncos in Mile High, I just cant respect your opinion going forward. It is just rediculous to suggest that the current favorite to win the AFC and the Super Bowl for that matter will be underdogs at home in there 1st playoff game. Just makes absolutely no sense.

[PAULYPOKER]

People that think the Patriots would be dogs against the Broncos need to reconsider their betting future. Do you realize how much one sided action that would create? People buying Patriots up to 3 if the line is below to, People teasing the patriots up to over a td, taking Pats ML at a + number. No matter who the pats are playing taking them the Pats @ + money would be no brainer. With all this in mind if nothing changes from now till the game line will be somewhere between pk-pats-2.5.

How stupid R u gonna feel if and when the game is played @ denver, the Broncos WILL be favored?

[k13]

People that think the Patriots would be dogs against the Broncos need to reconsider their betting future. Do you realize how much one sided action that would create? People buying Patriots up to 3 if the line is below to, People teasing the patriots up to over a td, taking Pats ML at a + number. No matter who the pats are playing taking them the Pats @ + money would be no brainer. With all this in mind if nothing changes from now till the game line will be somewhere between pk-pats-2.5.

Pats were +3, +2.5 to Baltimore earlier this year.

Why would books care if people buy points? That's for suckers anyway.

[Slimpickens]

Pats were +3, +2.5 to Baltimore earlier this year.

Why would books care if people buy points? That's for suckers anyway.

Good point. They will prolly want all the Pats money they can get. You know why.

[sarasmith]

people that think the patriots would be dogs against the broncos need to reconsider their betting future. Do you realize how much one sided action that would create? People buying patriots up to 3 if the line is below to, people teasing the patriots up to over a td, taking pats ml at a + number. No matter who the pats are playing taking them the pats @ + money would be no brainer. With all this in mind if nothing changes from now till the game line will be somewhere between pk-pats-2.5.

what is wrong with you???

[zoo youk]

what is wrong with you???

probably talking out of his ass thinking the Pats will be at home

[zoo youk]

people are acting like Brady and the Pats are the public betting gods...which in a way they are..don't get me wrong...BUT YOU ARENT GONNA FIND MANY PEOPLE BETTING AGAINST MANNING AT HOME...especially getting points..your out of your mind..that would cause so much one sided action its ridiculous. all this talk about how public would pound the pats blah blah blah

are you forgetting who is on the other fkn side of the ball and the come back story espn has been pumping at all year long an how the public just watched the niners drill the pats on national tv in foxboro? (despite a heroic come back that fell short)

shutup the the public tom brady bullshit. peyton manning is on the other side of the balll.

[DaColts]

There is one deciding factor that most are not considering with Manning as a Bronco that he never had as a Colt................

DEFENSE................................. ....

the year the colts won the super bowl the colts were the no. 1 D in the playoffs

[nvrlose37]

the year the colts won the super bowl the colts were the no. 1 D in the playoffs

I want to call BS on that one because it sounds ridic but then remembering that they got to play the Chiefs, Ravens, and Rex Grossman, it actually could be true.

[frostno98]

The Public will go heavy on the Patriots moneyline, if they were to meet in Denver.

The Public will blindly bet Brady for these reasons.

Brady owns Manning in the Playoffs, but all those games except one were played in New England.

Brady beat Manning 31-21 earlier this year at home.

Brady destroyed Tebow 41-23 in Mile High, deceiving the public that Brady can win anywhere.

[GunShard]

I'm starting to think this line:

Patriots PK @ Broncos PK

[Jonah]

Broncos receivers: Welcome to Peyton making you nervous at the line with all his audibles...With playoff pressure and the game getting tight, you want to be able to let it fly and not think...Peyton makes his teammates tight in the playoffs.