[PhillyFlyers]

fishhead makes a living gambling, but he got wealthy from iowa farmland.

i think the lesson is, if it isn't fun, and you aren't on the +ev side, then you shouldn't do it

but come on, it's fun and games become unwatchable if you have no money on them

Yeah but what about the people who do it for a living? Is the lesson "you have almost no chance to become wealthy from this, so don't take it seriously"?

Or is it "get a real job because gambling can cost not only your life but your soul as well"?

I mean, who logically goes into a field looking to get rich when 99.999% of people in the field are lifetime losers?

Is there something seriously fukkin wrong with us or am I just being retarded right now?

That old dude from NYC was cool as shit and now he's got me thinking about this shit.

[dante1]

So I was talking to an old-timer yesterday in a bar watching the games.

Guy is from NYC. Tells me he watched the first Super Bowl all the way to last years.

Asks me if I like to play the games. Said who don't?

Says he's been playing the NFL and other sports now for so long, he can't remember when he didn't.

Then looks me right in the eye and says "Do you know how many guys I know that got rich just from gambling? None. Not a single fukkin guy. Ain't that amazing?"

Got me thinking.

Philly my friend he is telling you right. People that say otherwise are complete bs artists or are simply lying. I have been around a long time too my friend and nobody wins in the long run. Book it.

[rm18]

Philly my friend he is telling you right. People that say otherwise are complete bs artists or are simply lying. I have been around a long time too my friend and nobody wins in the long run. Book it.

why do books ban people then? or cut limits

[PhillyFlyers]

Philly my friend he is telling you right. People that say otherwise are complete bs artists or are simply lying. I have been around a long time too my friend and nobody wins in the long run. Book it.

Dante

I had so much fun just talking to him. The dude loves Philly. Comes down whenever he gets a chance.

Talked about how fukked up Andy Reid is as a coach. That was some funny shit.

Dude really got me thinking though.

I mean, seriously, why do this shit if you got no chance? We go into it knowing the odds are stacked way against us to begin with.

Yet we still do it.

[RonPaul2008]

Or maybe the people who make big money and the people who a friends of those people don't typically share that type of information on internet forums.

So if nobody personally knows anyone that got wealthy from being a hardcore gambler, what is the lesson to be learned from this?

Is it that nobody gets wealthy from just gambling?

Is it that we are all just basically wasting time?

Is it that we should just give it up because you won't get rich from it?

What is the fukking lesson?

[milwaukee mike]

Dante

I had so much fun just talking to him. The dude loves Philly. Comes down whenever he gets a chance.

Talked about how fukked up Andy Reid is as a coach. That was some funny shit.

Dude really got me thinking though.

I mean, seriously, why do this shit if you got no chance? We go into it knowing the odds are stacked way against us to begin with.

Yet we still do it.

you also have almost no chance of walking out of a movie, play, sporting event with a lot of money

gambling is ENTERTAINMENT to a lot of people. to some it's a way to supplement their income.

and to some of us it's a mix.

[PhillyFlyers]

Or maybe the people who make big money and the people who a friends of those people don't typically share that type of information on internet forums.

If that's the case then they are some selfish fukks.

If I had specific info. regarding a game's outcome and knew it ahead of time, I would start a fukkin thread about it.

Why be a selfish dikk?

For what purpose?

[PhillyFlyers]

you also have almost no chance of walking out of a movie, play, sporting event with a lot of money

gambling is ENTERTAINMENT to a lot of people. to some it's a way to supplement their income.

and to some of us it's a mix.

Mike

Difference between this and going to a movie or a play or a sporting event is that you don't go to those things expecting/hoping to win money from it.

You go just for pure entertainment value.

[hawley]

I think Fishhead

[rm18]

Mike

Difference between this and going to a movie or a play or a sporting event is that you don't go to those things expecting/hoping to win money from it.

You go just for pure entertainment value.

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[dante1]

why do books ban people then? or cut limits

because they are greedy bastards, oh yes a guy or two will go on a streak and may win for a season or even longer and the books don't want one single winner for one single month. If they kept that guy he would lose in the long run. I had guys that would win but not in the long run. Guys go on streaks books like any business don't want that. I even got banned from a bookie once, why. I won two weeks in a row and that is a true story. One week allowed two not. Crazy, yes. Take my word for it nobody wins in the long run, to make that statement absolutely true you must allow for one in a million winning. I have never in my life met that one in a million and I have been involved with hundreds of players. Many hundreds.

[Pete0]

Great thread OP.

But I"m afriad not much useful information here.

Yes ! there ARE people that get rich of off it. but its all relative and subjective. There are guys that might rack up 50gs from a 1000 deposit ( if you consider that rich ), but the element of choice is always invovled. Would you stop there ? or risk losing it all ?

You dont necessarily have to be super sharp to get to 50k from 1k, you can also be mad lucky lol . a lucky run and reckless bankroll management will get u there.

IN the long run favs and dogs hit ROUGHLY 50/ 50. So it is possible to go on a sick stretch of wins.

But if you are asking from a 1k deposit to half million ?? just about the same as a powerball winner.

[PhillyFlyers]

Great thread OP.

But I"m afriad not much useful information here.

Yes ! there ARE people that get rich of off it. but its all relative and subjective. There are guys that might rack up 50gs from a 1000 deposit ( if you consider that rich ), but the element of choice is always invovled. Would you stop there ? or risk losing it all ?

You dont necessarily have to be super sharp to get to 50k from 1k, you can also be mad lucky lol . a lucky run and reckless bankroll management will get u there.

IN the long run favs and dogs hit ROUGHLY 50/ 50. So it is possible to go on a sick stretch of wins.

But if you are asking from a 1k deposit to half million ?? just about the same as a powerball winner.

Well thank you Pete. I really appreciate that.

I try to bring only quality threads to SBR.

I do not consider 50k rich. I do not consider 500k rich. Although if someone I knew made 500k from a 1k deposit I certainly would applaud them.

I'll leave you with this quote:

"I made my living, Mr. Thompson, in large part as a gambler. Some days I make 20 bets. Some days I make none......there are weeks, sometimes months in fact, when I make no bets at all because there simply is no play. So I wait. Plan. Marshal my resources. And when I finally see an opportunity and there is a bet to make, I bet it all."

[dante1]

Nice quote, great program, real guy. Not sure if it really happened. And of course his bet it all plan was on a fixed game. So if you want to use this guy as an example seems to say that he too believed you can't win in the long run unless the game is fixed.

I'm telling you Philly I have been around players a long time, the guy I worked for was around them even longer, much longer. Very few probably nobody wins in the long run. Don't believe the bs. How many guys have you seen in the past years on this forum tell you they can and tried to prove it, nobody even came close and that was just a season. It just isn't done, or it is so rarely done that it is close to never. People that think they will beat this game end up broke or broken or worse. I have witnessed it.

Also remember when this guy was around lots of sporting events were fixed, especially fights. Fights were fixed all the way up to the 60 and part of the 70's.

[PhillyFlyers]

Nice quote, great program, real guy. Not sure if it really happened. And of course his bet it all plan was on a fixed game. So if you want to use this guy as an example seems to say that he too believed you can't win in the long run unless the game is fixed.

I'm telling you Philly I have been around players a long time, the guy I worked for was around them even longer, much longer. Very few probably nobody wins in the long run. Don't believe the bs. How many guys have you seen in the past years on this forum tell you they can and tried to prove it, nobody even came close and that was just a season. It just isn't done, or it is so rarely done that it is close to never. People that think they will beat this game end up broke or broken or worse. I have witnessed it.

Dante

Absolutely.

As I said, the old-timer told me he didn't know a single fukkin guy that did it.

We talked about everything too not just football.

We talked about horses, baseball, golf, nba.

He said the only sport he didn't bet was NHL. Just never got into it he told me.

Told me that the Giants weren't going to make the playoffs this year and that last season, they were the worst team he ever saw win a Super Bowl.

What a great guy.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

im doing good myself im on pace to make 40k the trick is to bet big to win big none of that small time bet shit and bet ML not Point spreads theyll fuk you everytime

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/saloon/190...some-cans.html

[dante1]

Dante

Absolutely.

As I said, the old-timer told me he didn't know a single fukkin guy that did it.

We talked about everything too not just football.

We talked about horses, baseball, golf, nba.

He said the only sport he didn't bet was NHL. Just never got into it he told me.

Told me that the Giants weren't going to make the playoffs this year and that last season, they were the worst team he ever saw win a Super Bowl.

What a great guy.

Old guys that have been around sports are great assets to talk to. The guy I am talking about was considered the biggest bookie in the area, he wasn't. He was also considered to be mobbed up, in fact the Philadelphia Inquirer had him on the front page in the 70's. I will never forget that article. Most of it was bs. He was a friend and employed me. He died a few years ago but he was around gamblers all his life. He was a huge gambler himself and was also a coal operator he owned the business. He told great stories too, he knew nobody won.