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08-09-12 11:07 PM #36
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08-09-12 11:08 PM #37
I'm talking from the "Defensive Power" of Dwight you were speaking of. Same guy that was in Orlando. Lebron and Wade did just fine against him.
Originally Posted by will2survive
Ray Allen's job is going to be more easier with the Heat then with the Celtics. Wash up or not, he will still do his job from the arch, and sink the needed threes. Oh yeah, and close out games at the free throw line.
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08-09-12 11:08 PM #38
Originally Posted by lunchbawks
FUKKIN FINALLY!!
Bynum is a better fit for the lakers than howard
anyone who things howard is leaps and bounds better than bynum isnt paying attention
big winner = sixers
unreal
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08-09-12 11:10 PM #39
Don't get me wrong W2S.
Yes the Lakers are going to be improved over last year, but lets not get ahead of ourselves and think they are going to run through the League.
Things will be interesting, that is for sure.
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08-10-12 12:37 AM #40
LOL...bunch of fukkin expert fukktards in this thread. Most of you obviously don't understand what adding Nash does for Kobe, Pau and now Howard. Also, no longer will Artest be jacking up 3's...........he'll be rebounding and kicking ass on defense. No longer will the offense consist of Kobe dribbling around for ten seconds........pass the ball.............only to get it back with five seconds left to pump fake three times and shoot a fall away jumper. Nash and Pau are a great match (high IQ guys, good pick and roll combo, easy mid-range shots for Pau, etc.). Nash will get Kobe good/easy looks which in turn will keep Kobe fresh. Nash will keep teams honest on defense by hitting three's like no Laker we've seen in years and years. Howards defense is a huge upgrade over Bynum and will help to cover the weekness of Nash as opposing guards get in to the paint only to find Superman waiting to say hello. No more half ass efforts like the Lakers got out of Bynum, no more pussy footin around in the paint with the ball..........instead............Howard will slam that shit with a smile. Sure, when Bynum decides to show up he has a better post up game than Howard, but............again............that's when he decides to show up and play hard.
This Lakers team has also added bench help as well. Lakers haters are either going to bitch about the Lakers getting Howard........or..........come up with some assinine reasoning as to why it's a bad trade. Bottom line............the Lakers just became one of three big favorites to win yet another NBA title.Nomination(s):This post was nominated 2 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: paranoyd androyd, and darkhat
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08-10-12 05:38 AM #41
Solid post right here. Originally Posted by William Walters
How anyone could think this is a bad move for the Lakers doesn't watch basketball. They are demonstratively better on defense, and Howard's offense will be much improved with so many other options on the floor. It will be impossible to double team him.
And there is no way he is going to be here for one year and leave. Superstars don't leave the Lakers. They either retire here or get traded.
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08-10-12 05:47 AM #42
they shud be scoring a lot of points, thats for sure
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08-10-12 06:14 AM #43
I doubt this. 64 wins at least. Originally Posted by will2survive
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08-10-12 06:25 AM #44
Lakers all day bitches!!!!
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08-10-12 06:45 AM #45
I love this trade! Made my day.
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08-10-12 06:52 AM #46You Come at the King You Best Not Miss
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Originally Posted by InTheDrink
FUKKIN FINALLY!!
Bynum is a better fit for the lakers than howard
anyone who things howard is leaps and bounds better than bynum isnt paying attention
big winner = sixers
unreal
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08-10-12 07:27 AM #47
They definitely got better and should come out of the West. The only problem the Lakers have at this point is their coach. Remember, Mike Brown needed an offensive coordinator at Cleveland. I don't know why the love for this guy by the Lakers. There's no way he's going to get the max out of this group offensively. (Where Phil Jackson would have.) Originally Posted by William Walters
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08-10-12 07:38 AM #48
I had to let this simmer to wait for walters to add his lakerade stupidity.
Where have the lakers gotten better with their bench? I would like to see that, especially once the season starts.
Howard, so many questions with him will be more distraction than anything. Once crunch time starts and the play offs begin every laker loss will be "does that lessen Howards chances of signing with them'? And when they get bounced in the plays offs, because they arent going to win it all, it will definitely be a media frenzy. If they dont make the finals then it will be a complete trainwreck. I know they still dont have enough to beat Miami. A team that won it all and got better against a team that is older and got a couple big names to play with them. If Howard leaves which I say is a very very good possibility, probably 75-80%, then this might go down as the biggest disaster Lakers have ever made. Especially if Bynum (out from under Kobes reign of terror) blossoms into a monster big man who dominates games, which is very possible in the east and on that team. Also dont say if lakers win it all Howard will definitely stay, because then he has his ring and wont feel so much pressure and can go where he wants as a champion. Lakers are an old team he knows that, this is the one shot he has, so he knows if they dont win it this year theyre the team he will be with, and they wont be getting better they'll be getting older. Ths is te ultimate rent a guy for a season maneuver.
I will have to listen to the radio today and listen to the myopians out here lose their minds thinking lakers will be kings again in the NBA for the foreseeable future. Because that is what they do and what trades like this are supposed to do to them. get them excited, get them to (over) spend on a mediocre product and make them think they can compete with teams with an actual team, not a couple big names and a bunch of scrubs.
That is even if Howard is going to be as good as he was, which is no guarantee either. Gut was injured more than Bynum was and Bynum missed a lot of games. Howards back got the blame and supposedly the surgery remedied that but when you trade away a guy that should have been the building block for your team for the next 6-8 years for a guy coming off surgery and who isnt likely to stay, it is just bad business.
It will be a great year regardless, fading the lakers will once again be free cash and more than likely this thing completely unravels and at the end of the season kobe is losing his mind, gasol gets traded for dogshit and lakers are left with a bunch of garbage and no draft picks, and Howard signs in Dallas and all these people losing their minds now will be wanting to commit suicide this time next year.
Should be entertaining.
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08-10-12 08:01 AM #49
Theoretically Howard could walk and then they resign Bynum though that would be weird
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08-10-12 08:03 AM #50
I wish the sixers could of kept hark less,
Lakers win 70? Lol, typical overreaction ...
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08-10-12 08:05 AM #51
Yo u off? I got 2 30pks and a bot on deck...RIGHT NOW Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1
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08-10-12 08:32 AM #52
Its gona b interesting to watch and see if a primadonna like d12 will enjoy being second fiddle to old kobe. I dont see how howard would stay past this year on such an old team. Want to see if his back holds up and if nash stays healthy away from the phoenix witch doctors.
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08-10-12 08:41 AM #53
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...tery-team.html Originally Posted by wantitall4moi
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08-10-12 09:22 AM #54
the question is what team do you think the lakers would rather have this team or chris paul kobe bryant and dwight howard like it would of been if the nba didnt reject that paul deal last year?
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08-10-12 09:33 AM #55
they wouldnt have been able to afford that anyway. Originally Posted by Ratpack
Lakers will be good if they can get rid of Kobe and Artest and get some legit young talent in here and surround Howard with that. Short of that this team is mortgaged for the next decade in terms of draft picks and potential young talent. if they lose howard because he doesnt re-sign then lakers are up shits creek. because they traded away the only actual talent they had with any long term viability. So if Howard leaves then what?
What do they have to trade away? Kobe will be 40 and Gasol will be older and still have the reputation so who will they get for them. They have howard but he is not an asset, meaning they cant get anythng for him. So looking atthe laker roster where are they going to get anything?
If howard leaves the lakers are a complete disaster in 2013-2014. If they get a high lottery pick they lose it because they traded it away. Pretty sure that one is unprotected anyway. Then what, Nash probably retires, Kobe ...well who knows with him, and gasol if he is still there will be a free agent as well.
Lakers are falling into that familiar trap, whch for the most part has worked for them because someone has always bailed them out with some ridiculous trade. But I am not so sure that happens anymore not with the way the new CBA is or how teams are able to stockpile all stars all over their rosters. Its a new game and Lakers are really outside looking in despite how the team looks, because while they do have stars and potential hall of famers on their roster, the guys that have are closer to HoF eligibility than they are another golden ball. Big difference between 26-28 year old superstars and 36-38 year old stars.
I cant explain it any better than that to you guys and you still dont get it.
If Howard doesnt stay Lakers are going to go into a post magic Johnson like funk where they werent even relevant for a whole 10-11 year period.
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08-10-12 09:33 AM #56
Sounds like Spoelstra but sometimes raw talent overrides lack of coaching Originally Posted by will2survive
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08-10-12 09:55 AM #57
It's gonna be a loooong season for wantitall. Now all he has to fall back on is "what happens if Howard doesn't resign".....lol
Well, gee, if Howard doesn't resign they just go out & spend his max $$ on somebody else. Then when they trade Gasol for "dogshit" as u call it they go out & spend his max $$ on the next guy. Same when Kobe retires. Something you're too stupid to realize is it's the Lakers we're talking about here. They don't sit on the sidelines & watch.....they reload & break the haters hearts. You should know, they've been breaking your heart for as long as you've been old enough to watch. The sad thing is after all the times they've shit on you you're still incapable of figuring it out
Lakers = $$$$$ = banners
Figure it out dip$hit!!
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08-10-12 11:18 AM #58
As usual, wantitall getting buried on the forum. Guy has no clue. Absolute tard. Originally Posted by upscope
It's gonna be a loooong season for wantitall. Now all he has to fall back on is "what happens if Howard doesn't resign".....lol
Well, gee, if Howard doesn't resign they just go out & spend his max $$ on somebody else. Then when they trade Gasol for "dogshit" as u call it they go out & spend his max $$ on the next guy. Same when Kobe retires. Something you're too stupid to realize is it's the Lakers we're talking about here. They don't sit on the sidelines & watch.....they reload & break the haters hearts. You should know, they've been breaking your heart for as long as you've been old enough to watch. The sad thing is after all the times they've shit on you you're still incapable of figuring it out
Lakers = $$$$$ = banners
Figure it out dip$hit!!
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08-10-12 11:19 AM #59
should be entertaining as lakers are a bit more athletic with howard as opposed to bynum.
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08-10-12 12:37 PM #60
Originally Posted by wantitall4moi
Lakers will be a lottery team...
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08-10-12 12:44 PM #61
The magic had four three point shooters on the court most times Howard was on the floor. He was never double teamed significantly in orl. Any team that can keep him out of the post will shut him down. Anyone ever see him make a 15 footer? Yeah me neither. Originally Posted by The Giant
You can also expect pau to shoot more threes like he did at the end of last year.
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08-10-12 01:03 PM #62
Do you have a source on this or is it just your absolute jealousy of the Lakers organization for being the best the sport has ever seen (yes, this includes the Celtics who can't hold a candle to the Lakers over the past four decades). Originally Posted by InTheDrink
The magic had four three point shooters on the court most times Howard was on the floor. He was never double teamed significantly in orl. Any team that can keep him out of the post will shut him down. Anyone ever see him make a 15 footer? Yeah me neither.
You can also expect pau to shoot more threes like he did at the end of last year.
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08-10-12 01:11 PM #63
Howard and Bynum have similar numbers. Howard just brings a big name, and more intimidation at defense.
Just like Bynum, the Lakers will still get away from feeding the post, and watch Kobe take forced shots. Lakers best ball last year was when they were feeding Bynum and Pau in the post. Maybe Nash can clean that up. But we all know Kobe, he needs his 25+ shots.
Can't wait for the season to start now. I want to see how Mike Brown puts this together.
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08-10-12 01:37 PM #64
onlooker......settle down sport. Will Kobe force some shots? Of course. But, Nash will be handling the ball this season (at least for the 30 or so mpg he's on the court) which will help to solve the problem of Kobe dribbling the clown down and forcing up a shot. Originally Posted by onlooker
Note: I'll take the "under" 25 shots per game average for 1,000 betpoints. Deal? Since "we all know" Kobe "needs his 25+ shots" per game this should be easy money for you.
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08-10-12 01:45 PM #65
Re-read my post. I mentioned that Nash could possibly clean it up. Originally Posted by William Walters
Also didn't say averaging 25+ shots a game, but they will get away from post play from game to game, and that is when Kobe throws up 25+ shots.
Don't read into my post, and create something to defend your boy.
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08-10-12 02:01 PM #66
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08-10-12 02:21 PM #67
They won't play all that hard regular season. Win maybe 55 games for 3rd or 4th and then begin playing their best in the playoffs. Nash will often 24-26 minutes and will just sit out on some b2bs. Kobe won't be getting overly extended minutes on the road. They'll play their typical slow game where it takes Pau 8 seconds after an opposition bucket to drag his feet to the ball, dribble it a few times walking to the out of bounds line, look around for another 3 seconds followed by the slowest bounce pass (often double bouncing) to the PG.
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08-10-12 02:44 PM #68
The only thing less surprising than the Lakers getting Howard is that resident Laker hater wantitall would be in here rationalizing how the trade still doesn't make the team any good.
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08-10-12 02:51 PM #69
So funny seeing these laker fans lose their minds. Just like every other Laker fan they have no clue about how basketball actually works. See a big name no matter how old they are and they think theyre the best, especially when they put in a laker jersey. I remember people saying Kwame Brown would improve with the Lakers LMAO, yeah. Well they did get Gasol for him so he served some purpose.
But I want all you guys to explain what happens when these guys have to rest? Look at the shit they have on their bench. They had the worst bench in the league last year and all they did was add Antwan Jamison, but they lost (or will lose) arguably their best bench guy in matt barnes. So if you ask me their bench might actually be worse than it was. By contrast look at the clippers bench this year. thats why I say if they are all healthy lakers might not even win the Pacific.
Too soon to talk about this now once it all settles in and people REALLY look at who has what and who did what then they will see, then once the season starts and Lakers dont start 20-0 people will destroy this team. If Howard isnt healthy and struggles and shows he obviously inst what he used to be it will really hit the fan.
Enjoy it now. it reminds me of Cubs fans when they actually thought they were going to be good. Hope is a great thing thats for sure. But the odds this ends badly VASTLY outweigh the positives.
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08-10-12 02:58 PM #70
Sounds like a play on words. This "But we all know Kobe, he needs his 25+ shots" certainly comes across as Kobe shoots the ball 25+ times per game on average. Originally Posted by onlooker
Re-read my post. I mentioned that Nash could possibly clean it up.
Also didn't say averaging 25+ shots a game, but they will get away from post play from game to game, and that is when Kobe throws up 25+ shots.
Don't read into my post, and create something to defend your boy.
All teams "get away from" the game plan at times. Lakers & Kobe are no different. With that being said......I'm with you in that the Lakers were a better team last season playing "inside-out".
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