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Stop Blaming LBJ For the Loss!!!
I personally would rather see Boston win but the Heat lack depth, their head coach is awful (do you see them during time outs-no command of the team), and uh...D Wade has been playing some lousy 1st halfs.
How is this Lebron's fault or a reflection on his legacy---BS
1-7 in the 3rd quarter last night
He fukked up in the 4th quarter too
fukking choker
According to espn Because he didnt body up pierce and let him drain that 3 on him.
he deserved way more blame last year, but when youre the best player on your team and you are on the brink in a series you should win easy, then you get blamed.
The Heat should win easily? The Celtics are better than you are giving them credit for.Originally Posted by thetrinity
will...i agree lebron gets a little too much hate for things going the way they areI personally would rather see Boston win but the Heat lack depth, their head coach is awful (do you see them during time outs-no command of the team), and uh...D Wade has been playing some lousy 1st halfs.
How is this Lebron's fault or a reflection on his legacy
but.....to say the heat lack depth as a reason for losing is a bit much imo....they have some solid guys around the three they wanted to build around...it just doesnt flow quite right....and as was pointed out several times last night...they are a bit hollywood and people dont hustle back
the celts are running 3 guys out there 34 and over....who are supposed to be done.....they are down 3 guys who were pretty valuable to them(j green, wilcox, bradley).....losing those guys was a serious blow to their "depth"...and they just keep coming....guys like dooling, m daniels, stiemsma, were all supposed to be end of the bench guys who regularly prob wouldnt be seeing any minutes this time of year.......i dont know how you add much more depth to the heat team...im sure there are some things/moves that could be made to tinker...but i dont think that much more can reasonably be done
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Legacy...Are you serious???
The guy is KING of choking.. Nothing else.
well said..couldn't have said it any better
Last edited by oldscho0led; 06-06-12 at 10:05 AM.
There is no 'legacy' here...nor was
But yeah, his hyped up fame and all is def. on the line Thursday. As much as I wanna say Celtics have won this series...if there's one player in the league CAPABLE of carrying the team on his shoulder and completely taking over, its LeBron. Not gonna be easy, and I don't think he has it in him, but I wouldn't put it passed him to bail out his team....its literally his last shot.
Great post. Not only do they not work as a team in the huddle, they're too Hollywood and lack hustling after scoring a basket. The announcers pointed it out and it was a major reason for the loss
"His last shot" ????? are you kidding? Do you remember when Jordan won his first title. Get Pat Riley to coach again and this team will win. Bank on it. (I would say Phil Jackson but this is Riley's territory) Also, what about Lebron's 3 MVP (and more to come)? Do they count for nothing?There is no 'legacy' here...nor was
But yeah, his hyped up fame and all is def. on the line Thursday. As much as I wanna say Celtics have won this series...if there's one player in the league CAPABLE of carrying the team on his shoulder and completely taking over, its LeBron. Not gonna be easy, and I don't think he has it in him, but I wouldn't put it passed him to bail out his team....its literally his last shot.
it keeps getting brought up today by analysts....cause its so obvious...but when rondo, ray, and pp shoot combined 25 percent on 40+ shots...and the heat cant win at home...something is wrong
the heat big 3 are the guys you wanna be seen with at the club....these guys are always loungin at some fab party in south beach or at some poolside cabana
rondo, pp, and kg are the guys you want on your side in a back alley brawl...doin dirt in the streets...rondo wont say shit...hell just out hustle or embarrass you
lebron is a marvel....a great player...maybe the well harnessed desperation and intelligent tenacity wont fully hit him until he starts to realize his own basketball mortality
Wilbon said it best last year. He wrote this June 15 2011:"LeBron and his team look an awful lot like front-runners, guys who will throw it down on your head and look nearly invincible when things are going well, but confused and reticent when things are not."
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Plain and simple, as you put, KG, Pierce, and Rondo are warriors. Coach Doc Rivers is another warrior and know's how to get his team to be one unit and not individuals. The coach doesn't play but in this case, you have the best head coach in Rivers vs. the worst head coach in Spoelstra. That's a huge advantage for Boston.
its just one of those things
you know KG lays into dudes in the locker room.....you know hes beefed with rondo.....you know these guys get heated at each other...at the same time...none of these guys want to let the other guy down.....they police themselves and know whats expected......
you just dont get anything close to that kind of vibe from the heat
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thanks pal
1. Please don't compare LeBron to Jordan...atleast not until James has proven himself.
2. Yeah those MVP's don't count for much at all....does anyone ever remember how many MVP's Kobe/Jordan had? No. Because its all about championships if you wanna go down in history as the best.
3. I said its his last shot because if he wants to win those '7 rings'...he needs to get the first one this year. He clearly can't win a championship himself, and unlike him, his supporting cast won't be any better next year. Sure he may still win a ring or two down the road sometime if they get a better coach and possibly some effort from other players, but if he wants to go on that 5-6-7 win streak it has to be done now.
i dont think effort from other guys is a problem....chalmers is out there playing hard.....norris cole was out there chasing rondo down from behind....im sure guys like battier and haslem are giving as much as theyve got.....it just doesnt come together.....
How can you not put most blame on him...With the players they have, they should be able to get John Doe as a coach and win. Bottomline is that there are too many egos and the dude does choke. This is far from Spoelstras fault. Everyone just blames him because its the easy thing to do. Last time I check he didnt play on the court. Half of the offensive sets Wade or Lebron call themselves.
Spot on.
As far as Spoelstra, you get the credit when the team rolls through the regular season, you get the blame when they can't close in the playoffs. Fair or not, it's the life of a coach. I don't think LeBron wants a championship. I think he has everything he's ever wanted as evidenced by his I'm LeBron James and they have to go back to their shitty lives tomorrow, comment from a while back. Sure he would like a championship, but he doesn't need it. Not when he's paid like a champion from the time he came into the league. He plays basketball in Miami with his friends, the city loves him and will blame somebody else if the team fails, Spoelstra/Bosh's injury/ whatever, has more money than he can spend, his childhood friends, his mother, his girlfriend all tell him he's the greatest and he doesn't need that championship to validate it. Losing doesn't seem to bother him as he always finds someone else to blame.
I'm not comparing Lebron to Jordan as a player, I'm comparing timelines. Jordan is in a league of his own.
Heat will hire stan van in the off season anyways or phil jackson. Guarantee Spoelstra is not done coaching though and wherever he goes, I believe he makes an impact.
how many times does Jabron have to choke or disappear late in a game before we stop calling him great....he has all the talent in the world (including teammates) but ZERO heart. He will continue to choke and should get blamed for the losses
fukk him
lebron doesnt want a championship? why did he take a paycut to go to miami and play with bosh and wade?
hes there to try and win a title, duhhhh
why would he not want to win it? thats prolly the dumbest things i have seen in a thread.
the dude may not have it in him to win a title, but he 10000000000% wants to win an nba title
no1 needs a championship, nobody. whos on life support because they dont have an NBA title?
paid like a champion? wat does that even mean?? hes paid a lot of cash because of his popularity
He should have went to the bulls.
How is this Lebron's fault or a reflection on his legacy
Who is blaming Lebron??
He is playing much better this year in playoffs vs last year
jsmith - why do you have such a hard on for Ledick? You make excuses for him every chance you can get.
It appears that he doesn't want a championship. The night that he quit on the Cavs in game 5 when the Celtics punked him, he said that he slept like a baby??? Who the fuk could sleep after that beating? That told me that he was not obsessed to win. Jordan or Kobe wouldn't have slept all night after that debacle but James was perfectly fine with that loss. This is the fatal flaw of the frozen one. Winning is not as important to him as clowning, dancing and taking his talents to south beach when he should be practicing 24/7 in American Airlines arena.
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