[BrickJames]

i dont understand y everyone is playing no limit. no limit sucks people, its boring and everyone who plays takes way to long to act from watching to much tv. **** NO LIMIT!

[Darkside Magick]

this thread get funnier and funnier..now we got 5 dollars comps on 1/2NL ...we got wsop bracelet winners in the thread......we got i make a living on .01/.02 micro limits on the internet

[sq764]

When a 36 pot becomes a 30 pot it is nearly impossible to win in the long-run bc 1/3 of your winnings are going to the guy shuffling the cards.

you still dont get it do you... there is no casino in the country that rakes 20%... get a clue man

[YouMama]

you only actually pay Rake in pots u win...

if u play 5 40$ pots heads up SB v BB a hour and win 3 ... u win 120$ - 60$ that was your own money - 15$ rake = 45$ a hour - the 40$ you lose from the 2 lost pots = +5$ a hour + the 1$ a hour in comps = 6$ a hour

As long as you win the same amount as you lose in hands that dont go to showdown, and win more showdowns than u lose... u finish up 6$ a hr

and this is extreme, it doesnt take into consideration money put into the pot by blinds that fold, 3-4-5-6 way pots etc... where your invested amount would be less than half the pot

seems to me that beating the game for ATLEAST 6$ a hr is not unreasonable at all

... since the money won is mostly tax free (if u dont claim it) thats the same standard of living as someone who make 15k a yr, and in my opinion this would be a better than avergae decent player, not a good player with some luck on their side

... Around here its a 4$ cap on rake, so take the 6$ a hr total to 9$ a hr, thats equivalent to someone who grosses 22k a yr ... and again this being in my opinion a decent better than average player, not a really good player w a small amount of luck on their side

in order to match the standard of living as someone making the top of the 15% tax bracket, you would need to average 13-14$ a hr

all this is assuming you play 40hrs a wk

anyone see anything wrong with this BreakDown ???

[bettilimbroke999]

So if I win 3 out of 5 hands I play heads up I'll make a buck or 2 less than minimum wage, whoop te fukin do, sounds like a gold mine

[YouMama]

... Ya but if u played 5 hands, won 3, and one of the hands was 3-way 40$ pot w 10$ being contributed by the 3rd player that folded on the flop, you are now up 11$ a hr

if the BB was not involved and folded pre-flop, u are up 12$ a hr

[boeing power]

... Ya but if u played 5 hands, won 3, and one of the hands you won was 3-way 40$ pot w 10$ being contributed by the 3rd player that folded on the flop, you are now up 11$ a hr

if the BB was not involved and folded pre-flop, u are up 12$ a hr

Don't waste your time

You're talking to the guy that you want to sit at your table

[YouMama]

lol, Im just trying to help the guy understand ... I started there at one time

[bettilimbroke999]

Don't waste your time

You're talking to the guy that you want to sit at your table

If I could get you and the other bozo "semi-pros" in this thread at my table I might change my mind about making a living at 1/2 NL

[sq764]

So if I win 3 out of 5 hands I play heads up I'll make a buck or 2 less than minimum wage, whoop te fukin do, sounds like a gold mine

here's the problem.. you're an awful, losing poker player... the rake has nothing to do with you losing son

[ad1260]

On a lighter note, does anyone know any good card rooms in North Carolina? Just moved here from Texas and basically know no one. Thanks.

[daneblazer]

On a lighter note, does anyone know any good card rooms in North Carolina? Just moved here from Texas and basically know no one. Thanks.

There's a Harrah's in Cherokee, that's about it.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Tell em at Grand Casino Tunica to give everybody a refund then bc when that pot hits the 30s theres always a fiver goin to the house, I watched em rape the pots for an hour that's just the way it goes, 10% is a fuckin myth, first off nobody could do 10% since that would involve cents and they only play with dollars, 2ndly the dealer just makes a random instant assessment of the pot and if its anywhere close to 40 bucks they just assume the pots over 40 and 5 bucks into the houses pocket

I know how the rake works pal do you?

LOL. A myth? It's $1 rake for every $10 in the pot EVERYWHERE in Vegas. And if you're playing in a $5+1 rake 1/2 NL game, you're probably a moron anyway.

If they are taking out extra rake, then SAY SOMETHING, STUPID.

Why any dealer would purposely rake extra is beyond me... THEY WORK FOR TIPS, STUPID.

Words like "myth" don't apply to rake. It's pretty apparent that you have absolutely no clue.

Why not try to ask the fukkin casino how their rake works? It's not top secret, "bozo."

[ballahollic2]

this is honestly the most ignorant uneducated argument I have ever seen someone try to make. I could name numerous reasons why YOU can't beat the rake at 1/2 and it isn't because the game isn't beatable.

[HauntingTheHoly]

LOL. A myth? It's $1 rake for every $10 in the pot EVERYWHERE in Vegas. And if you're playing in a $5+1 rake 1/2 NL game, you're probably a moron anyway.

If they are taking out extra rake, then SAY SOMETHING, STUPID.

Why any dealer would purposely rake extra is beyond me... THEY WORK FOR TIPS, STUPID.

Words like "myth" don't apply to rake. It's pretty apparent that you have absolutely no clue.

Why not try to ask the fukkin casino how their rake works? It's not top secret, "bozo."

With "over 9000" posts, this guy has damn near had it with forum clowns.

[HauntingTheHoly]

this thread get funnier and funnier..now we got 5 dollars comps on 1/2NL ...we got wsop bracelet winners in the thread......we got i make a living on .01/.02 micro limits on the internet

http://www.seminolehardrocktampa.com/tampa-casino/poker

click on "January gas card giveaway" on the calendar. Play 20 hours a week at ANY stakes (even the 2/4 limit game) and you get a $150 gas card every week for the month. Comes out to $7.50 an hour if you play exactly 20, and of course decreases as you go over. They also comp one dollar an hour on top of this. That's $8.50 an hour.

How many laughing smileys will you post now, clown?

[ad1260]

Thanks daneblazer....I am closer to Virginia lol. Know of anything up in Virginia?

[daneblazer]

Thanks daneblazer....I am closer to Virginia lol. Know of anything up in Virginia?

If you live in Raleigh or Greensboro not really. If you want to play live cash games, the best thing to network through Raleigh poker meetup or World Tavern into some home games. If you're just looking for something social to do and have fun, look at World Tavern. I lived there for about 3 years and you have to work to find a good game. There's a lot of sharp people in that area.

[H1Cypher]

You can probably grind out 30-40k a year playing 1/2 at casinos with horrible players if you grind like a mother fuker 12 hours a day and are good.

That is hell on earth. You're better off getting a real job.

I live in California 1/2 is unplayable here. If you are trying to play 1/2 live for profit you are a serious masochist.

[wtt0315]

Here in florida its 5 dollar max or 10 percent of pot plus 1 dollar for bad beat so thats basically 6 bucks rake per hand because even at a 1-2 here in palm beach 60 percent of the pots are around that range. Not only thatm we pay 2 dollars on the button to increase rake and guess what even if there is no flop there is a drop for rake. So if you were playing 2-5 and the small folds you only get 1 buck because of the rake. if you play 5 hands in a hour and lets say all those pots are 50 bucks you would be raked 5x6 dollars per take equals 30 bucks rake that one hour. even if you just played 10 hands and they were 20 dollar pots you would be out 3 dollars per hand which is 30 bucks for that hour.

[daneblazer]

Live games with digital tables is where it's at. Most of the time there's less rake, because there are more hands played per hour. No dealer tipping. Still the same bad play. Completely possible to "make a living" at 1/2 on them. Though "a living" is what you make of it.

[ad1260]

If you live in Raleigh or Greensboro not really. If you want to play live cash games, the best thing to network through Raleigh poker meetup or World Tavern into some home games. If you're just looking for something social to do and have fun, look at World Tavern. I lived there for about 3 years and you have to work to find a good game. There's a lot of sharp people in that area.

If you live in Raleigh or Greensboro not really. If you want to play live cash games, the best thing to network through Raleigh poker meetup or World Tavern into some home games. If you're just looking for something social to do and have fun, look at World Tavern. I lived there for about 3 years and you have to work to find a good game. There's a lot of sharp people in that area.

Interesting. I live in the Winston Salem area (not far from Greensboro). Is "Raleigh poker meet up" and "World Tavern" a specific place or club? Lol sorry for my ignorance but like I said, I am brand new to this area and barely know my way around Winston...I am looking for something fun/social so anything along the lines of 1/2 or 1/3 would suit me nicely and hopefully be able to put a little extra coin in my pocket. Any more in depth info you can give me on this matter would be awesome. Thanks man.

[daneblazer]

I think World Tavern has games in Winston Salem. http://www.worldtavernpoker.com/ They are just bar league games, but good places to meet people and find other games. The poker meetup site is a group that sends out blasts every now and then. They may not be specific to the triangle area, but there is probably one for the triad area. Will probably have to do some googling for it :-) Good luck!

[wantitall4moi]

Game at this little casino has a pot limit in their 1/2 game. If the pot isnt 19 bux or more they dont rake anything. They let you chop, even let you chop straddles. 5 dollar rake is only with a full table. 5 or less people no rake regardless, 6 people 1 buck, 7 people 2 bucks, 8 people 3 buck, 9 people 4, and 10 people 5. Always with the pot limit.

Its a newer place but they have still been open a year. So I doubt they change it. They dont have nay bad beat jackpots that I know of.

They spread a 2/3 and a 5/10 game too. The 1/2 is a 100 buck max buy in. So it is basically for the old guys who dont have much to do, but if you sit down and build a stack you can make a lot of money just buying pots after awhile. 2/3 is a 300 max buy in but they usually have 2 tables. 5/10 is no limit buy in and generally has 8 or 9 players and around 25-30K on a normal day on the table. over 100K if someone is stacked and people load up. That table just takes time no rake. It was 7 bucks an hour when they first opened I think it is 8 or 9 now as they have a lot more money floating around on it than they thought they would have. i haven played in awhile. But theyre still better than the Indian casino and LA that is over 50 miles away.

[ad1260]

Thanks daneblazer. There are evidently a few games here in Winston at bars, but I am not really sure how the whole "poker in a bar" works...I have only played in casinos and home games down in Texas/Oklahoma. So I really have no idea how it would work in bars...isnt it illegal to gamble/play poker in a bar like that??? Most of these bar games look like they are tourneys, where I definitely prefer a cash game over a tourney. Any insight on these "bar games"?

[ad1260]

I just read about this World Tavern Poker league...sounds pretty cool but sounds like you gotta put in a lot of tourney time to even have a remote chance at getting to the bigger and better tourneys/championships/even the regionals...also, playing basically just for the heck of it (with no possibility of winning $$$) is kinda disheartening if you know what I mean?

[bettilimbroke999]

That is hell on earth. You're better off getting a real job.

I live in California 1/2 is unplayable here. If you are trying to play 1/2 live for profit you are a serious masochist.

Be careful!

Honesty + the Internet = Prepare to hear your stupid from a bunch of clowns living in their mom's basement...oh yea they all make 60k a year while watchin 20% of their 30 dollar 1/2 NL pots go to the house

[bettilimbroke999]

Game at this little casino has a pot limit in their 1/2 game. If the pot isnt 19 bux or more they dont rake anything. They let you chop, even let you chop straddles. 5 dollar rake is only with a full table. 5 or less people no rake regardless, 6 people 1 buck, 7 people 2 bucks, 8 people 3 buck, 9 people 4, and 10 people 5. Always with the pot limit.

Its a newer place but they have still been open a year. So I doubt they change it. They dont have nay bad beat jackpots that I know of.

They spread a 2/3 and a 5/10 game too. The 1/2 is a 100 buck max buy in. So it is basically for the old guys who dont have much to do, but if you sit down and build a stack you can make a lot of money just buying pots after awhile. 2/3 is a 300 max buy in but they usually have 2 tables. 5/10 is no limit buy in and generally has 8 or 9 players and around 25-30K on a normal day on the table. over 100K if someone is stacked and people load up. That table just takes time no rake. It was 7 bucks an hour when they first opened I think it is 8 or 9 now as they have a lot more money floating around on it than they thought they would have. i haven played in awhile. But theyre still better than the Indian casino and LA that is over 50 miles away.

Absolutely correct, that is how it should be, I will respond to your post bc unlike MonkeyFocker and some others you appear to have a brain

When you take 6 bucks from a 40 dollar pot you have taken nearly 17% of the pot, when you consider that that also INCLUDES the money the winner put in that you automatically taxed 17% this makes the game nearly unwinnable long-term unless you're playing absolute fish on Fri/Sat night, in reality 1/2 NL at the casino 90% of the time is just an unbelievable nit game that will put u to sleep while the dealer rakes away your wallet.

When you take 6 bucks out off a 150 avg pot of 5/10 you have taken 4% rake RATHER THAN 17%, that is completely ridiculous, for stakes as small as nitty ass 1/2 NL the rake should reflect the amount in the pot, 10% of the pot up to 5 dollars is ridiculous for 40 dollar avg poker, for 150 avg pot its perfectly fine, 1/2 fact is needs to be raked far less, I have played in California casinos like Commerce and the 1/2 rake % is fuckin equivalent to outright theft (even by casino standards)

[MonkeyF0cker]

Absolutely correct, that is how it should be, I will respond to your post bc unlike MonkeyFocker and some others you appear to have a brain

When you take 6 bucks from a 40 dollar pot you have taken nearly 17% of the pot, when you consider that that also INCLUDES the money the winner put in that you automatically taxed 17% this makes the game nearly unwinnable long-term unless you're playing absolute fish on Fri/Sat night, in reality 1/2 NL at the casino 90% of the time is just an unbelievable nit game that will put u to sleep while the dealer rakes away your wallet.

When you take 6 bucks out off a 150 avg pot of 5/10 you have taken 4% rake RATHER THAN 17%, that is completely ridiculous, for stakes as small as nitty ass 1/2 NL the rake should reflect the amount in the pot, 10% of the pot up to 5 dollars is ridiculous for 40 dollar avg poker, for 150 avg pot its perfectly fine, 1/2 fact is needs to be raked far less, I have played in California casinos like Commerce and the 1/2 rake % is fuckin equivalent to outright theft (even by casino standards)

LMAO. You have no fukking clue how rake works. How is it that you just keep making yourself look like even more of an ignoramous with every additional post? It's incredible.

I only played professionally for 7 years, but YOU tell ME how rake works (i.e. myths), genius.

[YouMama]

Where do casinos rakes 6$ from a 40$ pot?

[bettilimbroke999]

LMAO. You have no fukking clue how rake works. How is it that you just keep making yourself look like even more of an ignoramous with every additional post? It's incredible.

I only played professionally for 7 years, but YOU tell ME how rake works (i.e. myths), genius.

Congrats clown, go back to winning millions at 1/2 then and get out of ur mom's basement posting to me what a poker pro u used to be like every other brokedik moron in this thread sayin at 1/2 a 6 buck/hand rake is no prob, ******* clueless

I know I know ur the king of 1/2 and drive a new lamborghini with last weeks winnings u don't have to remind me, now go upstairs ur ma made peanut butter and jelly

[MonkeyF0cker]

There are other games/stakes aside from $1/$2 NL, genius. Most professionals tend to build bankrolls and move up in stakes - a foreign concept for someone of your pedigree assuredly. I started playing $1/$2 NL in 2003 when making $1200 in a $1/$2 NL game wasn't unusual and didn't start playing professionally until the summer of 2004. I'm certain that I would have been looking for players like you (marks) at the table back then.

Seriously, every post makes you look like an even bigger idiot. That's seemingly impossible, but somehow you manage to defy the odds.

[wtt0315]

Where do casinos rakes 6$ from a 40$ pot?

Palm beach is 10 percent plus 2 for bad beat so it would be 6

[bettilimbroke999]

Im not talkin about 2003 when donks flooded poker tryin to be the next moneymaker you ignoraymoose I'm talkin bout the present, unless u got doc brown and a fukin delorean how bout u look at current nitbag 1/2 nl at the casinos that u got felted at and had to give it up GENIUS

[MonkeyF0cker]

First of all, the only time that I play $1/$2 NL is when I'm too drunk to stand up without falling over. Second, you still don't know how rake works yet continue to ignorantly whine about it. Third, if you can't beat a bunch of nits, you're a shithouse poker player.