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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Four7 View Post
    Why can't I get 5x on my come bets? That should be increased too. I would love to see 20x odds or even 100x odds.
    Yea you're right. I'll ask that be changed as well. Give it until tomorrow.

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    SBR casino is always a winner. I love that place. But I pick my spots!

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    Nice promo/rules change for craps players. How about a blackjack promo for black Friday. I suggest 2:1 (or even 7:4) blackjack all day (with low limit) so losers like me can waste their time chasing a 1% EV game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmc419 View Post
    Someone who plays craps out there:

    Is this +EV, and what's the best bets to make?

    No, it isn't +EV... Basically since the odds bet is a break even bet the house increasing the odds just allows you to flip a fair coin with the house for a larger portion of your total bets but since you still have to place the original pass/no pass bet (which is a losing bet) you still going to lose money over the long run...

    Look at it like paying a cover to flip a coin... If you going to pay the admission price regardless it clearly better to be able to get as much of your money on the flip as possible rather then entrance fee...
    Last edited by LVHerbie; 11-22-11 at 08:22 PM.

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    Although increasing the pass line/no pass or odds payouts might be a nice alternative to the Blackjack promotions...

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    nice, but

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    Never liked crap

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    let's make it 1000x

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaddeusB View Post
    Nice promo/rules change for craps players. How about a blackjack promo for black Friday. I suggest 2:1 (or even 7:4) blackjack all day (with low limit) so losers like me can waste their time chasing a 1% EV game.
    Every time we do this I swear its the last. But yea, a 2 to 1 is possible sometime. Let's let the last one heal up a little more.

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    Great work SBR

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Needs to be 10x

    I will be watching admin panel and getting people back I do not like here

    Easy to have dice make one more turn from a six to a 7

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    Come odds changed from 2x to 5x. Hopefully we did it right and its not paying 5x for the straight come bet.

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    Do any online casinos over 50 or 100x on pass lines???

    If you can confirm Walker might change if again down the road.

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    it says 6:5 for me. is that what it should be?
    Last edited by robzilla; 11-23-11 at 01:47 PM. Reason: nm i thought it was 5x comebets

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    Quote Originally Posted by robzilla View Post
    it says 6:5 for me. is that what it should be?
    Ok a Come bet is exactly like a pass line bet. At anytime you can place a come bet. If the next roll after you place a come bet is a 6 or an 8 then that is your point. If you roll a 6 or 8 before a seven you would be paid evrn money on your original come bet and 6 for every 5 you had backing up your original come bet. Hope that helps.

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    my next roll was a 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Every time we do this I swear its the last. But yea, a 2 to 1 is possible sometime. Let's let the last one heal up a little more.
    OK, sounds good.

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    This is a trap

    'free odds' have no affect on bottomline

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Do any online casinos over 50 or 100x on pass lines???

    If you can confirm Walker might change if again down the road.

    not online, but wild west in AC has 100x

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    It's not a trap

    Lots of time casino admin panel is unattended and you can win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Do any online casinos over 50 or 100x on pass lines???

    If you can confirm Walker might change if again down the road.
    5dimes has 100x odds once a week in their bonus casino...

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    <TABLE class=body border=1 width="100%"><COLGROUP><COL width=60><COL><COL width=60><COL width=60><THEAD><TR><TH>Time</TH><TH>Description</TH><TH>Bet</TH><TH>Result</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:02:49.950>01:02:49</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD>Point is 5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 11</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 8</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 6</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 8</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 8 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=100.00>100.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-90.00>-90.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:01:57.070>01:01:57</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 10</TD><TD>Point is 10</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 11</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come 6</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=30.00>30.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Nine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 6</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 8</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 7</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=125.00>125.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-50.00>-50.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:01:46.193>01:01:46</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Hard 4</TD><TD>Point is 4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=35.00>35.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:01:42.540>01:01:42</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Natural</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:01:32.277>01:01:32</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD>Point is 5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=35.00>35.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:01:21.907>01:01:21</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Hard 8</TD><TD>Point is 8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=35.00>35.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:00:52.143>01:00:52</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD>Point is 5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD>Point made</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=37.50>37.50</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Nine</TD><TD>Point is 9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Come 5</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 5 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=100.00>100.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-17.50>-17.50</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:00:43.843>01:00:43</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 11</TD><TD>Natural</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Natural</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=10.00>10.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=10.00>10.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:00:40.117>01:00:40</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Natural</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:00:11.143>01:00:11</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 4</TD><TD>Point is 4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Nine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 11</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 6</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=80.00>80.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-60.00>-60.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    Sometimes we should be able to make a point

  23. #58
    SBR_John
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    TimeDescriptionBetResult
    01:02:49
    Roll 114FivePoint is 5
    Roll 251Easy 6
    Roll 312Horn 3Come5.00-5.00
    Roll 465Horn 11Come5.005.00
    Roll 553Easy 8
    Roll 634SevenOutPass Line5.00-5.00
    Come 65.00-5.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    Come 6 Odds25.00-25.00
    Come 85.00-5.00
    Come 8 Odds25.00-25.00
    100.00 -90.00
    01:01:57
    Roll 146Easy 10Point is 10
    Roll 256Horn 11Come5.005.00
    Roll 315Easy 6
    Roll 451Easy 6Come 65.005.00
    Come 6 Odds25.0030.00
    Roll 554Nine
    Roll 662Easy 8
    Roll 716SevenOutPass Line5.00-5.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    Come 65.00-5.00
    Come 95.00-5.00
    Come 6 Odds25.00-25.00
    Come 9 Odds25.00-25.00
    125.00 -50.00
    01:01:46
    Roll 122Hard 4Point is 4
    Roll 243SevenOutPass Line5.00-5.00
    Come5.005.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    35.00 -25.00
    01:01:42
    Roll 134SevenNaturalPass Line5.005.00
    5.00 5.00
    01:01:32
    Roll 141FivePoint is 5
    Roll 216SevenOutPass Line5.00-5.00
    Come5.005.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    35.00 -25.00
    01:01:21
    Roll 144Hard 8Point is 8
    Roll 234SevenOutPass Line5.00-5.00
    Come5.005.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    35.00 -25.00
    01:00:52
    Roll 132FivePoint is 5
    Roll 211Horn 2Come5.00-5.00
    Roll 332FivePoint madePass Line5.005.00
    Pass Line Odds25.0037.50
    Roll 445NinePoint is 9
    Roll 525SevenOutCome 55.00-5.00
    Pass Line5.00-5.00
    Come5.005.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    Come 5 Odds25.00-25.00
    100.00 -17.50
    01:00:43
    Roll 165Horn 11NaturalPass Line5.005.00
    Roll 261SevenNaturalPass Line5.005.00
    10.00 10.00
    01:00:40
    Roll 125SevenNaturalPass Line5.005.00
    5.00 5.00
    01:00:11
    Roll 131Easy 4Point is 4
    Roll 236Nine
    Roll 356Horn 11Come5.005.00
    Roll 411Horn 2Come5.00-5.00
    Roll 521Horn 3Come5.00-5.00
    Roll 661SevenOutPass Line5.00-5.00
    Come 95.00-5.00
    Pass Line Odds25.00-25.00
    Come 9 Odds25.00-25.00
    Come5.005.00
    80.00 -60.00

    Sometimes we should be able to make a point
    Show em whos boss and whack the Dont Pass line.

  24. #59
    Glitch
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    its hard to make 4s and 5s. lots more dice combinations generate 6,7,8s

    on a side note- ive gotten way too many 5s lately.

  25. #60
    TheCentaur
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    <TABLE class=body border=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:17:28.843>17:28</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 8</TD><TD>Point is 8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Nine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 10</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 6</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Hard 4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 7</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 6 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=90.00>90.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-90.00>-90.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:17:18.173>01:17:18</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 6</TD><TD>Point is 6</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=35.00>35.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:16:57.393>01:16:57</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 12</TD><TD>Craps</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 8</TD><TD>Point is 8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>5</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 11</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=50.00>50.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-30.00>-30.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:16:22.850>01:16:22</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 6</TD><TD>Point is 6</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>6</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 5</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 5 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=65.00>65.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-55.00>-55.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:16:03.690>01:16:03</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Five</TD><TD>Point is 5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 4</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 4 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=65.00>65.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-55.00>-55.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:15:46.523>01:15:46</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 8</TD><TD>Point is 8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 4</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 4 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=65.00>65.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-55.00>-55.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:15:24.670>01:15:24</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>1</TD><TD class=die>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 3</TD><TD>Craps</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 3</TD><TD>Craps</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Horn 11</TD><TD>Natural</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 4</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Hard 8</TD><TD>Point is 8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 5</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=50.00>50.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-30.00>-30.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:15:06.983>01:15:06</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 10</TD><TD>Point is 10</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>5</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Nine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 3</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>3</TD><TD class=die>4</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come 9 Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=65.00>65.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-55.00>-55.00</NOBR> </TD></TR><TR><TD><NOBR title=2011-11-24T01:14:56.333>01:14:56</NOBR> </TD><TD class=desc><TABLE xmlns:CP="urn:CP"><COLGROUP><COL width=35><COL width=8><COL width=8><COL width=5><COL width=60><COL width=80><COL width=110><COL align=right width=40><COL align=right width=40><TBODY><TR><TD>Roll 1</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>2</TD><TD class=die>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>Easy 8</TD><TD>Point is 8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Roll 2</TD><TD class=die vAlign=top>4</TD><TD class=die>3</TD><TD></TD><TD>Seven</TD><TD>Out</TD><TD>Pass Line</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-5.00>-5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Come</TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR title=5.00>5.00</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=6></TD><TD>Pass Line Odds</TD><TD><NOBR title=25.00>25.00</NOBR></TD><TD><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR title=35.00>35.00</NOBR> </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right><NOBR class=red title=-25.00>-25.00</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    Congrats John, good luck with the craps in the casino. I'm down 1600 in a couple hours of play betting 5 w/25 odds on the point and 2 come bets. You got all you're getting from me. See you in the poker room

  26. #61
    SBR_John
    Wisky
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    Join Date: 07-12-05
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    You would of won every roll if you would of played the DONT PASS line and DONT COME.

  27. #62
    rkelly110
    rkelly110's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-05-09
    Posts: 39,172
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    I play pass line and don't pass with more success than not.

    I start with a play on both, what ever wins, I'll play that. Lose, go the opposite and increase
    my bet.

    Be careful with large bets, the software see's that and will make you lose no matter what game you play.

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    FlipK11
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    6 points to 110 in 2 minutes, think i'll stop while im ahead :P.

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