1. 11-22-11 02:19 PM #1
    SBR_John
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    Breaking News from your Dreams Come True Casino! Craps odds increased

    Pass line odds raised from 2x to 5x!!!

    (Remember, this is a friendly casino. Please exit the game after you win 10,000 points)
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  2. 11-22-11 02:20 PM #2
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    Nice!!

    I have no idea how to play craps though.

    Just bet on "Pass" and I'm good?
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  3. 11-22-11 02:23 PM #3
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    Also, it looks like the software is saying 1:1?
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  4. 11-22-11 02:24 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmc419 View Post
    Nice!!

    I have no idea how to play craps though.

    Just bet on "Pass" and I'm good?
    Yea. Most important part of craps is to back up your bet with as much as the house allows, in this case 5x. The 5x has a zero house advantage, hence it pays true odds. The second most important thing is to not to throw a 7 immediately after placing your true odds bet.
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  5. 11-22-11 02:26 PM #5
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    John what does that mean for a newbie crap player
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  6. 11-22-11 02:27 PM #6
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    oh hmm, so it means I have to bet on something else, then I can put 5X that amount on the pass line?

    haha I need to read the rules I guess
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  7. 11-22-11 02:29 PM #7
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    i tried it , just to test it out , pretty much everytime i layed the passline odds , on good numbers like 6 - 8 , it lost about 8 outta 10 times, not good odds , ill stick with sportsbook , thx for promo john
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  8. 11-22-11 02:31 PM #8
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  9. 11-22-11 02:32 PM #9
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    Someone who plays craps out there:

    Is this +EV, and what's the best bets to make?
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  10. 11-22-11 02:41 PM #10
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    ^
    Don,t pass
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  11. 11-22-11 02:42 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Dogs View Post
    ^
    Don,t pass
    So 1 unit on Don't Pass and 5 on Pass?

    Trying to decide if it's worth having Thad send me points to play with.
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  12. 11-22-11 02:49 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmc419 View Post
    Someone who plays craps out there:

    Is this +EV, and what's the best bets to make?
    Yes this is really good. As John said u should always back your pass bet with max odds.

    Only question now is did SBR rig the casino for more crap outs to be rolled???
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  13. 11-22-11 02:49 PM #13
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    ok ill bite.
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  14. 11-22-11 02:51 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    Yes this is really good. As John said u should always back your pass bet with max odds.

    Only question now is did SBR rig the casino for more crap outs to be rolled???
    But I have to bet something else at the same time, right? (for 1/5th the amount)

    What's the best thing to choose for that bet?
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  15. 11-22-11 02:52 PM #15
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    lost 50 pts pretty fast ... "crapped out" too many times
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  16. 11-22-11 02:53 PM #16
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    If it's truly +EV, then keep playing. Just like blackjack promos, you'll end up positive at the end.

    Need one of the casino experts to run the numbers like they did for BJ.
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  17. 11-22-11 02:56 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    John what does that mean for a newbie crap player
    just means you win 5x more
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  18. 11-22-11 03:05 PM #18
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    Im' pretty sure the bet is zero house advantage regardless of 5x or 2x you just have the opportunity to make a bigger bet.
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  19. 11-22-11 03:08 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Im' pretty sure the bet is zero house advantage regardless of 5x or 2x you just have the opportunity to make a bigger bet.
    Right. Going to 5x gives the player a chance to bet 5x his pass line bet at true odds(zero house advantage). Of course zero house advantage is not +ev...i guess its =ev.
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  20. 11-22-11 03:16 PM #20
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    built 90 to almost 500 in about 15 minutes then started making some huge bets and blew it with a few 5s in a short period of time. ah well. good "promo".

    you can make it so there are very few ways for you to lose.

    that was fun.
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  21. 11-22-11 03:17 PM #21
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    make 500 profit in 10 min thx sbr
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  22. 11-22-11 03:18 PM #22
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    im not getting paid 5X.. mine is still 2X.. please help

    -stash
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  23. 11-22-11 03:19 PM #23
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    so where is the edge?
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  24. 11-22-11 03:20 PM #24
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    From the thread in the Points forum, it appears the game isn't +EV, just less -EV.

    Still a promo for those who like to play craps anyways, but not worth me trying to learn it lol
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  25. 11-22-11 03:22 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    im not getting paid 5X.. mine is still 2X.. please help

    -stash
    looks like it only pays if the actual number hits. not on a natural 7 or 11
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  26. 11-22-11 03:24 PM #26
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    play the pass line and a field bet hoping the number becomes a 6 or an 8 then you have a lotta freedom to leave your pass bet on and keep playing the field with that 6 or 8 possibility as insurance. you can even now put 1/4 of your field bet on 7.

    dont get greedy and go for a huge hit. you'll get a buncha small hits this way but like with everything else- all you need is it to go wrong a few times if youre betting really huge to ruin it.
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  27. 11-22-11 03:39 PM #27
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    16:39:03
    Roll 1 6 1 Seven Natural Pass Line 25.00 25.00
    25.00 25.00
    16:38:58
    Roll 1 1 5 Easy 6 Point is 6
    Roll 2 6 1 Seven Out Pass Line 25.00 -25.00
    Pass Line Odds 125.00 -125.00
    150.00 -150.00
    16:38:56
    Roll 1 5 2 Seven Natural Pass Line 25.00 25.00
    25.00 25.00
    16:38:50
    Roll 1 2 3 Five Point is 5
    Roll 2 2 5 Seven Out Pass Line 25.00 -25.00
    Pass Line Odds 125.00 -125.00
    150.00 -150.00
    16:38:44
    Roll 1 2 3 Five Point is 5
    Roll 2 2 4 Easy 6
    Roll 3 2 3 Five Point made Pass Line 25.00 25.00
    Pass Line Odds 125.00 187.50
    150.00 212.50
    16:38:41
    Roll 1 2 5 Seven Natural Pass Line 25.00 25.00
    25.00 25.00
    16:38:34
    Roll 1 3 2 Five Point is 5
    Roll 2 2 1 Horn 3
    Roll 3 1 4 Five Point made Pass Line 25.00 25.00
    Pass Line Odds 125.00 187.50
    150.00 212.50
    16:38:27
    Roll 1 3 2 Five Point is 5
    Roll 2 3 4 Seven Out Pass Line 25.00 -25.00
    Pass Line Odds 125.00 -125.00
    150.00 -150.00
    16:38:20
    Roll 1 3 5 Easy 8 Point is 8
    Roll 2 2 6 Easy 8 Point made Pass Line 25.00 25.00
    Pass Line Odds 125.00 150.00
    150.00 175.00

    working for me
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  28. 11-22-11 03:39 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    so where is the edge?
    The straight Pass Line wager carries a 1.41% house edge coming out. After point is established, the odds bet is a literal coin flip, when you consider that 4 and 10 pay 2:1, 5 and 9 pay 3:2 while 6 and 8 pay 6:5, your edge comes from the profit paid to you in those payoffs.
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  29. 11-22-11 03:45 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDunlop View Post
    The straight Pass Line wager carries a 1.41% house edge coming out. After point is established, the odds bet is a literal coin flip, when you consider that 4 and 10 pay 2:1, 5 and 9 pay 3:2 while 6 and 8 pay 6:5, your edge comes from the profit paid to you in those payoffs.

    Huh?
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  30. 11-22-11 04:10 PM #30
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    Dont play the game if you nevered played it. You will get murdered.
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  31. 11-22-11 04:21 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    Yes this is really good. As John said u should always back your pass bet with max odds. Only question now is did SBR rig the casino for more crap outs to be rolled???


    ding ding
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  32. 11-22-11 05:02 PM #32
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    John-
    Is this here to stay? I hope so.
    Thanks, another great offering by SBR.
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  33. 11-22-11 05:30 PM #33
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    Needs to be 10x

    I will be watching admin panel and getting people back I do not like here

    Easy to have dice make one more turn from a six to a 7
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  34. 11-22-11 05:36 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillysfinest4 View Post
    John-
    Is this here to stay? I hope so.
    Thanks, another great offering by SBR.
    Yes. Here to stay.
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  35. 11-22-11 07:06 PM #35
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    Why can't I get 5x on my come bets? That should be increased too. I would love to see 20x odds or even 100x odds.
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