1. 11-02-11 02:56 AM #71
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    I will take the charges plus points in this one, Packers have come slow out of the gate numerous times this year, coming off of a bye I expect it to happen again. After getting embarrassed on National TV I expect Rivers to had an understanding game vs. the Packers weak secondary. This is not the packers defense of last year, so don't act like the packers are some invincible team. There were a couple times this year, where if you played a quality team you would of lost. But hey you got your easy games early, and a harder schedule down the stretch. Just better hope you play better then you did against Min.
    San Diego at home, will roar over the packers. And ESPN can finally stop slurping Rodgers and the Packers.
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  2. 11-02-11 05:08 AM #72
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    Of course the public (and all the squares) are going to be on the Pack. Chargers or pass here.
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  3. 11-02-11 05:43 AM #73
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    Where you see this since it open at 5.5 in Vegas and most offshore books
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  4. 11-02-11 05:49 AM #74
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    I love how the SD backers continue to look [and sound] stupid, but more importantly, that'll they will literally pay for it.

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    Chargers are off 2 consecutive SUATS losses as a Road Fav following their own BYE and with this being a Non-Conference road game for Green Bay i'll take SDG + the points.
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  6. 11-02-11 05:55 AM #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopperocker View Post
    Chargers are off 2 consecutive SUATS losses as a Road Fav following their own BYE and with this being a Non-Conference road game for Green Bay i'll take SDG + the points.
    ... and you'll lose.

    Why do people continue to want to bet against the best team in the NFL with the best player in the NFL at the most important position?

    If you like San Diego I've got two words (among many): Stay Away.

    A lot of masochists here, unreal. A fool and his money ...
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    hoping for the upset here so staying away
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  8. 11-02-11 10:44 AM #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    ... and you'll lose.

    Why do people continue to want to bet against the best team in the NFL with the best player in the NFL at the most important position?

    If you like San Diego I've got two words (among many): Stay Away.

    A lot of masochists here, unreal. A fool and his money ...
    Readings posts like this make me like San Diego even more.

    Just like when we had to read all the comedy posted when they were going to play the Vikings.
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  9. 11-02-11 12:04 PM #79
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    [QUOTE=StackinGreen;12167513]... and you'll lose.

    Why do people continue to want to bet against the best team in the NFL with the best player in the NFL at the most important position?

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    Because I don't think the Packers are some indestructible force of nature. The packers have failed a lot this year, the reason why they are still the last purfect team in the NFL is their schedule.

    They have started off slow on more then one occasion this season on the road esp. it seems like. This one they have to go out west after a bye week. If they start off slow to San Diego, San Diego is just not gonna roll-over like Minnesota and Carolina and Atlanta did.
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  10. 11-02-11 12:24 PM #80
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    [quote=neverstoppers23;12170049]
    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Because I don't think the Packers are some indestructible force of nature. The packers have failed a lot this year, the reason why they are still the last purfect team in the NFL is their schedule. They have started off slow on more then one occasion this season on the road esp. it seems like. This one they have to go out west after a bye week. If they start off slow to San Diego, San Diego is just not gonna roll-over like Minnesota and Carolina and Atlanta did.
    That's exactly what they'll do.
    SD is 2-5 ATS 1-2 at home vs the Packers 5-2 ATS 2-2 on the road & the 2 teams they didn't cover against Carolina 5-2-1 ATS Minny 4-3-1 ATS are both better than SD ATS.SD is running on fumes & their D ranking is smoke & mirrors. On any given day any team can cover but the Pack are the play.
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    Watch out for this game guys. The Chargers might win this game straight up. The Chiefs have a much better defense than the Packers and that game was at Arrowhead.

    Now the Chargers will be at home and the Packers have been getting torched this year on defense. How many close games can the Packers possibly when before the finally go down? If the Packers don't lose this week they will definitely lose on Thanksgiving.

    If Joe the public keeps hammering the Packers this line might be at 6 by game time.
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    I don't see the Public as being on this game. It doesn't matter, Packers by double digits anyway.

    Get paid.
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    I'm going to hedge my Packers -1 teaser with SD ML.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Watch out for this game guys. The Chargers might win this game straight up. The Chiefs have a much better defense than the Packers and that game was at Arrowhead. Now the Chargers will be at home and the Packers have been getting torched this year on defense. How many close games can the Packers possibly when before the finally go down? If the Packers don't lose this week they will definitely lose on Thanksgiving. If Joe the public keeps hammering the Packers this line might be at 6 by game time.
    What ? KC 22 vs the run & 20th vs pass is better than GB 10th vs the run & 31st vs the pass? Maybe but not in a definitive sense.Again look at the rankings in the context of who they have played. Seriously didn't SD have the number 1 pass defense last year? did they make the playoffs? NO
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    Almost every RB on the chargers is injured, Rivers has great footwork but isn't the same QB he was in the beginning of the season. If anyone's looking for an upset, this isn't the game you wanna bet on. This happens EVERY year with the chargers, sure they need the win, they always need a win at this point every single season...and they usually don't get it, expect the same this sunday.
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  16. 11-02-11 05:05 PM #86
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    Put it this way, the Squares have been riding the G-Bay choo choo train in kiddie land all year long at the expense of Vegas,but oddsmakers finally got sharp with the line in the Minnesota game and will continue this until the public quits biting............
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  17. 11-02-11 05:15 PM #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post

    ... and you'll lose.

    Why do people continue to want to bet against the best team in the NFL with the best player in the NFL at the most important position?

    If you like San Diego I've got two words (among many): Stay Away.

    A lot of masochists here, unreal. A fool and his money ...
    Thank you for inflating the line this week
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Put it this way, the Squares have been riding the G-Bay choo choo train in kiddie land all year long at the expense of Vegas,but oddsmakers finally got sharp with the line in the Minnesota game and will continue this until the public quits biting............
    Pauly,

    Do recall that that line was less than 10 all week and only got pushed above 10 late when favorite players came in strong.? On top of that, Green Bay could easily have gone up 17 late. Green Bay under 10 points was the right play, no doubt about it.

    They've been backdoored in their only 2 ATS losses.

    Oddsmakers are off again this week. Nothing sharp about this line at all.

    0mar, how is it inflated? I'm almost always locked in early in the week. Why? The books can only manipulate stupid players after they've realized how poor some of their early lines are.
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  19. 11-02-11 05:40 PM #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post

    Oddsmakers are off again this week. Nothing sharp about this line at all.

    0mar, how is it inflated? I'm almost always locked in early in the week. Why? The books can only manipulate stupid players after they've realized how poor some of their early lines are.
    Because two weeks ago this line was a pk'em and a week ago it was -2.5, -3
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  20. 11-02-11 05:54 PM #90
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    Last time Chargers were home dogs, Peyton came to town with his shiny new ring in 2007. Result: Chargers 23 Colts 21.
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    It's possible that the Packers will win SU and lose ATS.

    Prediction:
    Green Bay 27
    San Diego 24
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  22. 11-02-11 06:29 PM #92
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    Niners are -7 vs Giants -14.5 vs Rams, -10.5 vs Arizona, -1.5 vs Steelers

    You guys don't think these lines are inflated?
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    matchup

    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Last time Chargers were home dogs, Peyton came to town with his shiny new ring in 2007. Result: Chargers 23 Colts 21.
    Chargers always matched up well vs. Colts (it happened more than once, slacker)

    That has nothing to do with this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Because two weeks ago this line was a pk'em and a week ago it was -2.5, -3
    According to whom? And where could you actually bet that?

    Seems irrelevant given its lack of availability let alone handle
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Niners are -7 vs Giants -14.5 vs Rams, -10.5 vs Arizona, -1.5 vs Steelers

    You guys don't think these lines are inflated?
    I agree on those ... SF is nowhere near the team GB is. That's what my point is. SF is still one of the most overrated teams in football, GB isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    According to whom? And where could you actually bet that?

    Seems irrelevant given its lack of availability let alone handle
    A few books had these out and you could bet on them. I think a few places in Vegas also.

    Probably the best way to get value and really good lines.
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  27. 11-02-11 06:40 PM #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    I agree on those ... SF is nowhere near the team GB is. That's what my point is. SF is still one of the most overrated teams in football, GB isn't.
    That's the thing, GB is just as overrated. People are ready to throw money on them no matter what line, they are not that great, they don't really blow anyone out on the road. They are nothing special.

    You think books are stupid when they make these lines?

    Green Bay was -3 (+125) vs Lions last time I checked. Are you jumping on that?
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  28. 11-02-11 06:48 PM #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    That's the thing, GB is just as overrated. People are ready to throw money on them no matter what line, they are not that great, they don't really blow anyone out on the road. They are nothing special.

    You think books are stupid when they make these lines?

    Green Bay was -3 (+125) vs Lions last time I checked. Are you jumping on that?
    You look foolish with this post. I'm not a GB homer in any way (other than the fact that they've made me money 11 of the last 12 times I've played them dating to last year). To say they are nothing special just reeks of either too much emotion on your part because they may not be your team, they lost you money or you just can't look at it objectively. Rodgers certainly is special, he may even be better than Favre when all is said and done and he's also on pace for 5400+ yards at his current pace which would just blow up Marino's record (actually Brees could do it too this year). Also, if you've watched some of their road games, you'll notice that they've let off the gas towards the end. Who in the NFL blows out opponents regularly on the road? Oh that's right, nobody. You need to sharpen your pencils or get some new batteries for your calculator. Maybe you should just start betting on GB instead?
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  29. 11-02-11 06:49 PM #99
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    GB isn't really that overrated...I mean they are only the defending Super Bowl champions and are currently undefeated. They've def. covered some lines this year and should against a banged up Chargers team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Dana View Post
    Who in the NFL blows out opponents regularly on the road? Oh that's right, nobody.
    Then why do people keep betting big road faves?

    Why do you want to lay almost a touchdown here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Then why do people keep betting big road faves?

    Why do you want to lay almost a touchdown here?


    Well, if it climbed to 7 I likely wouldn't bet it. I got on it early at 5.5. I'm not saying SD can't win or at least cover, that's why they play, right. Still, if you're into wagering (and who on this board isn't) GB week in and week out is a great play.
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    k13, if you have conditions such as "Rodgers doesnt get injured," etc. I'd give the Lions 3 in a second. At this point if those lines are so good, I'm not worried about it. Even if I have to give more I'll just wait. I don't mind.

    One more thing ... Rodgers is already better than Favre. There is not even a question.

    If 5.5 is "almost a touchdown" or "laying a lot of points on the road" --- what is your fair line, my man? Packers should be at least 6 point favorites.

    San Diego is a mess. They go in swoons. They will lose by double digits.
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    I think the 3.5 was a fair line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    I think the 3.5 was a fair line.
    Ok, no problems here but how big of a difference is there from 3.5 to 5.5?

    Obviously, it's not as meaningless as 7.5-9.5 but I can't recall the last time a team won by 4, and if it did happen recently, it certainly didn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Ok, no problems here but how big of a difference is there from 3.5 to 5.5?

    Obviously, it's not as meaningless as 7.5-9.5 but I can't recall the last time a team won by 4, and if it did happen recently, it certainly didn't matter.
    If Pack hits 7 I put them in a teaser if not I keep my 6.

    5.5 is a dead number but I think one where lot of upsets happen on 5.5/6
    Someone would have to chime in on that.

    I know what you are thinking, you would rather have a 6 then a 7??? Its hard to explain but yes.
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