[milwaukee mike]

Illinois actually had a great comeback in that game. When you're evaluating a win after the fact, it is prudent to know that the team was down big and made a frantic rally to win. Shows they woke up from their poor play.

We can put a wager on what the line will be though. I guarantee it'll be Wisconsin -10 or less. Giving you a point and a half leeway.

pm me if you really want to wager on this.
i'll take that the line will be wisconsin -10 1/2 or higher and you take -10 or lower for the illinois game at 5dimes at midnight the night before the game (or at a sportsbook/time of your choosing).
100 pt minimum 500 pt maximum any amount you choose

[Vin_vermillion]

Uh, they've won every game theyve played impressively. And they don't play TCU....do you watch college football?

BTW - that was called SARCASM due to their impressive performance in the Rose Bowl last season

[Sunde91]

I'm a UW Alum...I follow quite closely...I have to say, they may be the best team in the Big 10...but this is a stupid play. Firstly, you're going to tie up your money for a solid 2 months... Secondly, anything could happen in the season...Russell Wilson could get injured, Monte Ball...I mean, anything could happen. Thirdly, they still have the bulk of their road schedule to play obviously. Still have to play: @Michigan State @Ohio State @Illinois @Neutral Field in Indianapolis to win Big 10 Champ Game... I mean honestly, if you wanted to do that, just put your money on the the Badgers on the ML in every game they play the rest of the way...guarantee those odds will equate to much higher than the +165...besides, you can't even find that line anymore... Point being, Michigan State, Ohio State, Illinois, Neutral field vs. Michigan or Nebraska again...anything could happen there...and +165 is a long time to tie up your money for. Even if you like it, like I said, just put that money on them to win out, ML each week...this would stop you from winning if they did lose a game in regular season and still went on to win Big 10 Championship game, but you guys talking about this like it's a given, so you shouldn't worry about that then....ML rest of way each week, and you can still use your money when you want...plus get better odds overall....

haha what a completely hopeless short-sighted simpleton

So you're not going to take +165 where the odds should be -150 or more (and ended up moving to -125 hours later) because you have to wait LESS than 2 months? Hopeless

Taking ML on them from here on out every game is laying -400 to -500 @MSU, @OSU, @Illinois, and then about -2000 and beyond for all the other cream puffs. One loss wipes out your genius plan while the future is intact. They can win the division with 1-2 losses easily and then in the Title game.

[DrStale]

BTW - that was called SARCASM due to their impressive performance in the Rose Bowl last season

You're right, they lost by 2 points to the #3 team in the country. They were horrible.

[milwaukee mike]

priskilla, please ignore my last post.
i didn't see you weren't a pro and therefore couldn't transfer me more than 2 pts/day

if any pros want that offer just send me a pm but here's a warning
sagarin predictor rating
wisc 93.64
illinois 76.45
home field advantage = 3.08

for those of you that can't do math, that means the point spread "should be" wisc -14.11

[milwaukee mike]

haha what a completely hopeless short-sighted simpleton

So you're not going to take +165 where the odds should be -150 or more (and ended up moving to -125 hours later) because you have to wait LESS than 2 months? Hopeless

Taking ML on them from here on out every game is laying -400 to -500 @MSU, @OSU, @Illinois, and then about -2000 and beyond for all the other cream puffs. One loss wipes out your genius plan while the future is intact. They can win the division with 1-2 losses easily and then in the Title game.

[Vin_vermillion]

You're right, they lost by 2 points to the #3 team in the country. They were horrible.

once again - says a bunch of moron sportswriters...GMAFB at least ten teams were better than TCU last year....including Wisconsin if they could have gotten their foot out of their asses

[DrStale]

once again - says a bunch of moron sportswriters...GMAFB at least ten teams were better than TCU last year....including Wisconsin if they could have gotten their foot out of their asses

The BCS is not a "bunch of moron sportswriters"

Maybe you should be in charge of ranking the teams.

[Vin_vermillion]

lol - you mean that isnt what it stands for....?

I dont need to be in charge of ranking the teams....

what they need is 4 16 team divisions, with 8 teams going to divisional playoff (championship games) and then 4 teams playing for a spot in the BCS title game.

Hopefully they are on the right track - and when that happens - I guarantee you we wont see Boise or TCU in any NCAA Football championship games....

[ngates815]

lol - you mean that isnt what it stands for....? I dont need to be in charge of ranking the teams.... what they need is 4 16 team divisions, with 8 teams going to divisional playoff (championship games) and then 4 teams playing for a spot in the BCS title game. Hopefully they are on the right track - and when that happens - I guarantee you we wont see Boise or TCU in any NCAA Football championship games....

While I agree.

TCU defense was pretty "stout" last year.
Boise offense was pretty damn good too, bunch of weapons.

But neither of the teams should ever bitch and moan about not being "recognized" or not getting in the championship game.

[priskilla22]

pm me if you really want to wager on this.
i'll take that the line will be wisconsin -10 1/2 or higher and you take -10 or lower for the illinois game at 5dimes at midnight the night before the game (or at a sportsbook/time of your choosing).
100 pt minimum 500 pt maximum any amount you choose

I'll do the bet but as you know, I'm not an SBR pro, and why would it cap at midnight? Should cap before the game starts.

[ngates815]

[DrStale]

I've been in that crowd about 20 times. Pretty awesome.

[ngates815]

Been there twice, only remember that part once.

very awesome. Especially when you're with someone that doesn't know that's about to happen.

[infamousbacardi]

haha what a completely hopeless short-sighted simpleton So you're not going to take +165 where the odds should be -150 or more (and ended up moving to -125 hours later) because you have to wait LESS than 2 months? Hopeless Taking ML on them from here on out every game is laying -400 to -500 @MSU, @OSU, @Illinois, and then about -2000 and beyond for all the other cream puffs. One loss wipes out your genius plan while the future is intact. They can win the division with 1-2 losses easily and then in the Title game.

Since you're such a know it all...I'll bet you everything you want Wisconsin isn't -400 or more in every game the rest of the way on the ML....you call it pal.

You can't even get +165 anymore, in fact, it was probably a bad line if it was recently offered anything post-Nebraska beat down.

And my point about taking the ML was that everyone that had mentioned they loved the prop was SOOOOO confident they'd win out and maybe even play in BCS Nat'l CHamp game...if you're so confident, which is what my point was, then just lay the juice on every game the rest of the way out, you'd make more money...yes, you would lose if they lost...but you win more money as well, that's called winning more for same bet...it's more risky, odds are better. Pretty straight-forward math.

I'm from Wisconsin, graduated from Wisconsin, I've watched every game they've played for the last 15 years...they have yet to play anyone...Nebraska is extremely overrated, especially to play in that kind of game (from behind, on the road w/ T. Martinez at QB) and they were playing at Camp Randall in Nat'l TV game...yeah, good luck w/ that NU. Wisconsin is overrated...and so is Nebraska.

It was a bad line to begin w/ at +165, and my point was to all the people screaming how amazing this prop was, that if you think Wisconsin is going to the Nat'l Champ, you will get better odds by taking them on the ML rest of the way out. It's simple mathematical fact.

Again, I'll bet you anything you want, because you wanted to run your mouth like a know it all, that the Badgers are NOT at least -400 favs rest of the way out. And you know it, so stop running your mouth.

[Vin_vermillion]

Am i the only one who thinks the regular season bets have nothing to do with betting wisconsin to win the big 10 championship as far as betting is concerned?

[Sunde91]

lol "probably a bad line" no shit clown that's why I posted it yet you think laying an average of -1000 ML every game is better because you don't want to wait less than 2 months like a short sighted dope

No one is talking about the Nat Champ or winning every game

You couldn't even begin to prove how it's mathematical fact that ML rest of the way is better odds than +165

lol @ you for thinking the point of contention is if they will be -400 in every game. Oh yeah what a big bet to make. Clown. What, you're going to bet your 46 points on that?
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/feeds/ads/...nfamousbacardi

-400 minimum as their shortest odds remaining is an estimation based on their smallest spread left on GOY lines at sportsbook.com is -10 @MSU. Spread/ML converter = -427 ML

[HR Paperstacks]

Wisconsin with Russell Wilson at QB takes this team to a whole other level. Big ass oline that mashes people, solid receivers, and a great running game. Lately Wisc QB's have been the type that are smart but not so talented passers so they do just enough to keep defense's somewhat honest and just try not to make mistakes that will cost them the game. Now they have an actual playmaker that can just kill you thru the air. Almost every ball he threw was on the money last week against Nebraska and even if they had good coverage there was nothing they could do about it. Dude is legit and as long as the defense holds up a little this offense is going to be a juggernaut.

[infamousbacardi]

lol "probably a bad line" no shit clown that's why I posted it yet you think laying an average of -1000 ML every game is better because you don't want to wait less than 2 months like a short sighted dope No one is talking about the Nat Champ or winning every game You couldn't even begin to prove how it's mathematical fact that ML rest of the way is better odds than +165 lol @ you for thinking the point of contention is if they will be -400 in every game. Oh yeah what a big bet to make. Clown. What, you're going to bet your 46 points on that? http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/feeds/ads/...nfamousbacardi -400 minimum as their shortest odds remaining is an estimation based on their smallest spread left on GOY lines at sportsbook.com is -10 @MSU. Spread/ML converter = -427 ML

46 points...haha, yeah, that's what I was talking about...46 betpoints...that's the measure of what I bet w/. Tool...I wasn't referring to betpoints, this fictional world you apparently live in where betpoints are supreme. You're so cool.

Yeah ok buddy...line goes from +165 to -125 in the middle of the week?? Yeah, must have been a great line.

It is quite easily mathematical able to be proven. Bet $100 on the ML on every game the rest of the way (for those who are confident they will win out)...and I guarantee you'd have more than $165 in total profit at the end of season. Pretty straight forward.

If you're not confident, then just bet your measly -125, as that's the line currently, and STFU.

[Vin_vermillion]

bottom line. Wisconsin is over rated.

[infamousbacardi]

Sunde -

Bottom line is, I'm not trying to measure roosters here...+165 isn't a bad price to take this prop...

As a Badger fan, I think they are over rated...and NC State fans not very fond of his ability in tight games, either. Haven't seen that yet, and the Badgers haven't had a real test yet. Nebraska didn't have a chance when they got down by more than 7 and got away from running the ball. They should win the Big 10...but stranger things have happened. I definitely wouldn't take this at -125...but at +165, definitely some value there for those of you who got it.

Good luck w/ your plays this weekend.

[ngates815]

bottom line. Wisconsin is over rated.

Rated at the #4 If they were rated ahead of Bama/Oklahoma/LSU, then they would be overrated. What spot do you suggest they be at? After Boise st? After Stanford? They are ranked where they should be. The 3 teams ahead of them should easily be ahead of them, no question about that.

They may not be able to hang with Bama/LSU/OKLA, but they should definitely be in the talks of a good team.

[priskilla22]

Wisconsin has a really easy schedule. No road games out of conference and they avoid going on the road to most top tier Big 10 teams.

They should go 12-0, and then 13-0, honestly. But Russell Wilson is a choke artist in close games. If it is close and late, they'll probably lose.

[Sunde91]

lol tool is someone who randomly wants to bet on something as obscure as what the ML will be for 7-8 games because they got butt hurt after being told off. Yeah I'm going to bet real money with a nobody on the internet over the prediction of a ML

Yeah ok buddy...line goes from +165 to -125 in the middle of the week?? Yeah, must have been a great line.

I have no idea what you're talking about and can only conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about. Not going to explain how it's a good bet to get +165 for a line that closes -125 or higher

I never said anything about them winning out, making your ML theories useless here. Of course finishing 8-0 is > +165. Thread is about winning the Big Ten. They could win the Big Ten with 2 losses and cash the +165, while the ML would be massively -units