[a4u2fear]

This is total bullshit! The same amount of time? I would rather play in a longer 80 man tourney than have to sit for fuk'in hours on different days trying to rollover points already won. This is a bullshit excuse John to justify extra rake at ring tables and force players to lose points by getting fuked on bullshit calls and lucky ass river cards. You've really taken the enjoyment out of winning a tournament and forced people into making it a fuk'in grind to come away with anything. Same amount of time, yeah right, maybe for you, then again I guess you and a few others can pretty much sit around and play poker all fuk'in day if you want to, the rest of us got real lives in the real fuk'in world!

What this guy said. SBR Pro no rollover.

[Roadtrip635]

It goes by bets called. In the testing I rolled over 150 points in 35 minutes and 300 points in an hour. Much easier on the 6 man tables btw....

I agree, prompts much more action. Then why don't we have more 6 man tables? There should be 6 man tables available at all levels, instead of one total. Right now there's only one 6 man table at 1/2 and no other 6 man tables at any other level.

[nosniboR11]

gg road, took it down for ya

[Roadtrip635]

gg road, took it down for ya

Congrats on the hard fought win! Nice comeback to take it down.

[nosniboR11]

Congrats on the hard fought win! Nice comeback to take it down.

thank you partner

[tony_come]

Luck is very much in sbrpoker.

[SBR_John]

I agree, prompts much more action. Then why don't we have more 6 man tables? There should be 6 man tables available at all levels, instead of one total. Right now there's only one 6 man table at 1/2 and no other 6 man tables at any other level.

Ok. We will make it happen.

[a4u2fear]

I hate six player tables. I am more careful and like more players and not playing every hand

[QuantumLeap]

It goes by bets called. In the testing I rolled over 150 points in 35 minutes and 300 points in an hour. Much easier on the 6 man tables btw.

Keep in mind we made it easier to win by cutting the number of players nearly in half from last year. So those 80 man tourneys took almost twice as long as the current 45 player format but there was no rollover. It actually takes about the same amount of time if you add it all up.

Thanks for the explanation John.

I'll keep a tally to see why I'm not getting more points toward rollover.

[nosniboR11]

[Slainte]

Lost all my 600 points won for the Tuesdays first place, it lasted just 30 minutes, amazing bad beat, SBR poker my dreams came true

[mikejamm]

Lost all my 600 points won for the Tuesdays first place, it lasted just 30 minutes, amazing bad beat, SBR poker my dreams came true

....dreams came true huh? More like .....sbr, up the ass with no lube! I guess John's right about the timing thing after all, what took you oh about an hour and a half to supposedly win in a tourney, only took about 30 minutes to screw you out of! This whole rigged poker software is a fuk'in joke! Why do you think they went to all the trouble to start a rollover and track all your points. Pretty easy to hand out 600 fake points, if you know some poor sap has to roll 1800 to ever fuk'in see any of it! Oh yeah and lets not forget the extra ass ream'in rake you're also paying!

Have fun newbies, welcome to the black hole cesspool of bad beat poker. I'll stick to pick'in games, where at least I have a fuk'in chance of wining base on my handicapping skills and not some joke ass software program tweaked to suck you in like a fuk'in crackhead!

Sbr Casino = Sbr Poker! Same fuk'in ripoff as that bullshit rigged casino!

[Dabeergod]

This is total bullshit! The same amount of time? I would rather play in a longer 80 man tourney than have to sit for fuk'in hours on different days trying to rollover points already won. This is a bullshit excuse John to justify extra rake at ring tables and force players to lose points by getting fuked on bullshit calls and lucky ass river cards. You've really taken the enjoyment out of winning a tournament and forced people into making it a fuk'in grind to come away with anything. Same amount of time, yeah right, maybe for you, then again I guess you and a few others can pretty much sit around and play poker all fuk'in day if you want to, the rest of us got real lives in the real fuk'in world!

Damn straight

[zam77]

....dreams came true huh? More like .....sbr, up the ass with no lube! I guess John's right about the timing thing after all, what took you oh about an hour and a half to supposedly win in a tourney, only took about 30 minutes to screw you out of! This whole rigged poker software is a fuk'in joke! Why do you think they went to all the trouble to start a rollover and track all your points. Pretty easy to hand out 600 fake points, if you know some poor sap has to roll 1800 to ever fuk'in see any of it! Oh yeah and lets not forget the extra ass ream'in rake you're also paying! Have fun newbies, welcome to the black hole cesspool of bad beat poker. I'll stick to pick'in games, where at least I have a fuk'in chance of wining base on my handicapping skills and not some joke ass software program tweaked to suck you in like a fuk'in crackhead! Sbr Casino = Sbr Poker! Same fuk'in ripoff as that bullshit rigged casino!

jammer... I am all for opinions and actually enjoy reading your rants, but you have to see both sides here. Your argument simply isn't justified enough to speak with such angst and vulgarity. Yes, poker is a game of skill, but it is also a game of chance and luck as we all know, which translates into bad beats, lucky draws, etc., etc.. The law of averages ultimately takes effect for the low average to upper average poker player. Those that are better than "above average" win over time, those that are worse than "below average" lose over time, while most are flirting with a breaking even over time... I'm pretty sure this holds true here at SBR for the most part. SBR Poker is not full of poker pros (although there are a handful of very solid players) and players are playing for points and not real money. So in all fairness, you can't overlook there are valid reasons why the hands your dealt don't relate to real life poker (games played with real money and majority of "above average" players).

Like I said, I'm all for opinions... but I'd like to try and make you see it from a different point of view so you can enjoy what SBR poker is really offering... A free game for its customers, and whether you play it well or it's just dumb luck, if you win... you get free stuff.

Now don't go yelling at me jammer... I know you have a soft side too.

[pavyracer]

Playing SBR Poker is not a game of skill zammer. When someone goes all in with 96 offsuite and gets called with high pairs and the flop produces two 6's you can throw the skill in the trash can. And it happens way too often to be a statistical anomaly.

[zam77]

Playing SBR Poker is not a game of skill zammer. When someone goes all in with 96 offsuite and gets called with high pairs and the flop produces two 6's you can throw the skill in the trash can. And it happens way too often to be a statistical anomaly.

Yeah... I thought that was the point I was making.

[gliblet]

Hey John, how about some SNGs that count towards the rollover? I'm sure there's lots of players who would prefer to do the rollover in SNGs rather than ring games so they should be busier than the last ones were. Plus you could adjust the rake on them so that SBR collects the same amount in rake whether a player rolls over x number of points in ring games or in SNGs.

I hate getting shafted in the ring games

[SBR_John]

Hey John, how about some SNGs that count towards the rollover? I'm sure there's lots of players who would prefer to do the rollover in SNGs rather than ring games so they should be busier than the last ones were. Plus you could adjust the rake on them so that SBR collects the same amount in rake whether a player rolls over x number of points in ring games or in SNGs.

I hate getting shafted in the ring games

Yes we are planning on adding those in once we get football kicked off.

[mikejamm]

jammer... I am all for opinions and actually enjoy reading your rants, but you have to see both sides here. Your argument simply isn't justified enough to speak with such angst and vulgarity. Yes, poker is a game of skill, but it is also a game of chance and luck as we all know, which translates into bad beats, lucky draws, etc., etc.. The law of averages ultimately takes effect for the low average to upper average poker player. Those that are better than "above average" win over time, those that are worse than "below average" lose over time, while most are flirting with a breaking even over time... I'm pretty sure this holds true here at SBR for the most part. SBR Poker is not full of poker pros (although there are a handful of very solid players) and players are playing for points and not real money. So in all fairness, you can't overlook there are valid reasons why the hands your dealt don't relate to real life poker (games played with real money and majority of "above average" players). Like I said, I'm all for opinions... but I'd like to try and make you see it from a different point of view so you can enjoy what SBR poker is really offering... A free game for its customers, and whether you play it well or it's just dumb luck, if you win... you get free stuff. Now don't go yelling at me jammer... I know you have a soft side too.

Playing SBR Poker is not a game of skill zammer. When someone goes all in with 96 offsuite and gets called with high pairs and the flop produces two 6's you can throw the skill in the trash can. And it happens way too often to be a statistical anomaly.

Wouldn't dream of it zammer, I like you bro,you're cool. Still in all respect, not disagreeing with you, but this version of poker sbr uses is akin to some rigged carnival game! No fuk'in poker software program I've ever played on any site and believe man, I've played them all, works the way this bullshit joke of a poker client does! Again, I'm well aware that bad beats happen and some luck is nice to have when you need a good card to hit a straight or a flush on the river. But far too often and way beyond the laws of averages, this sbr poker software has demonstrated time and time again by the way it's been programed, short stacks are never favored when you are down, no matter what type of hole cards you are holding. You never have an opportunity to "come back" or challenge anyone whose chip stack out numbers yours. I'm sure sbr did it this way due to time restraints and wanting to get tourneys over quickly. Still, it's bullshit and makes for lousy game play. Plus adding a rollover when you're already faced with these kind of ridiculous scenarios, just adds to the frustration. Like our pal Pavy said, happens way too often to be a statistical anomaly. If you're gonna run a respectable poker operation, at least have the balls to do it right and not fuk players over because you're worried you may actually have to award a real prize.

[wquine]

Just change the rollover to 2x, should hopefully stop the whining. 2x is not that bad peeps.

[nosniboR11]

just finished off another rollover

[downsouth]

Suggestion for Rollover Points.

Make them combinable. If I win 25 rollpoints or some lower denominations from a few tourneys allow them to be combined into one larger buying for a ring game.

[nosniboR11]

Suggestion for Rollover Points. Make them combinable. If I win 25 rollpoints or some lower denominations from a few tourneys allow them to be combined into one larger buying for a ring game.

yes because right now I am stuck with 5 points that i can not use, not enough to buy in at a table.

[hhsilver]

Suggestion for Rollover Points.

Make them combinable. If I win 25 rollpoints or some lower denominations from a few tourneys allow them to be combined into one larger buying for a ring game.

but please make this optional.
I'd rather not combine (x+y) and have 3x +3y rollover. If I'd lose x before rolling 3x , I'd rather just go to y:3y than have my y left with a rollover of 3y + whatever remains from the unfulfilled 3x. hope that's clear.

[beanbag]

this rollover is bullshit.. can't believe sbr is doing this..


make it at least 2x for the pros.. c'mon man

[downsouth]

but please make this optional.
I'd rather not combine (x+y) and have 3x +3y rollover. If I'd lose x before rolling 3x , I'd rather just go to y:3y than have my y left with a rollover of 3y + whatever remains from the unfulfilled 3x. hope that's clear.

I agree, have it release in 25 point increments or something similar

[mikejamm]

Before this rollover crap, people were begg'in for more sit and go's and didn't mind pay'in the rake. The ring games were just starting to pick up before the institutionalized nazi rollover became a requirement. How about just offering the option too, of taking half the posted prize amount instead of a rollover.

[QuantumLeap]

I don't know of any other tournament that makes you rollover points once you have won, whether it is poker or any other contest. SBR is getting cheap with their points.

I understand that not as many people are signing up with the sportsbooks and that's where you guys are not making as much money. But don't penalize the winners.

What's more, I'm not getting credited rollover points nor am I getting credited when I win. Please look into the SBR Poker to make sure it is counting rollover points and crediting people when they win.

A person shouldn't have to be an accountant to be sure they are getting what they win. It's work. If someone can show that they are getting robbed of points they should be rewarded extra points for having to do extra work.

It's not that difficult to get a product that works. We shouldn't have to download a new version every 2 weeks. If I did that with the software I dealt with at work I would be shown the door.

[BarkingToad]

Before this rollover crap, people were begg'in for more sit and go's and didn't mind pay'in the rake. The ring games were just starting to pick up before the institutionalized nazi rollover came a requirement. How about just offering the option too, of taking half the posted prize amount instead of a rollover.

I like this idea. I made mention earlier that some points entrepreneur ought to set up shop at a poker table where for every 100 bonus points we lose/give to them, they return 80 points of regular non rollover.

[SBR_John]

Thanks for all the feedback. We have sit n go's planned for the 2nd week of NFL.

QL said no one makes you rollover contest winnings. Actually ALL contests at every site require a rollover. All the capping contests do.

We want to have free contests but we are basically trading free for some participation.

[downsouth]

I don't mind the rollover but any word on possibly being able to combine smaller amounts

[mikejamm]

How about you greedy bastards just give us one tourney a week with no fuk'in buy in, rollover, or rake? Do it for the "Pros" who signed up and bought all this bullshit about how "great" sbr poker was gonna be! One or two people hit a jackpot in the rigged casino and you cut the limits or hit the fuk'in "rob everybody" switch. Now you expect us to grind through ring poker games for points that probably aren't being credited properly any way! Fuk'in total waste of time! And plus there's already collusion going on because of this rollover bullshit! So way to go sbr, way to create a great atmosphere among your faithful pro members. You guys really fuk'in blew it!

[SBR_John]

So far those that do well in straight poker games like it and those who don't do not. As has been said it takes the same amount of time to win the 88 man format that we had previously as this format. It takes the same amount of time its just now its half tourney time and half ring game time.

Of course I understand it would be easier if we just mailed you a check and have the mailman bring into your house and place it in your wallet. I can appreciate that. But in SBR poker you need to play well in both tourneys and straight games before the mailman brings the check.

[Bob Loblaw]

John, I like that 5x rollover idea. Let's make it happen

[BeerDog99]

I have not seen a response yet, but my feedback is here in this post.