[SBR_John]

How's it going?

[agharah1]

So much roll, so much rake...

[Wrigley]

what is the SBR rake

[spankie]

I cant even win a fuking poker game.

They got me in the loser pool.

Need to switch me to the winning pool today pal.

Then I will be able to accurately assess the rollover.

[saints7011]

I just rolled over 125...

played on the low limit table and didnt take as long as I thought it would...

not to bad I guess...

[Boner_18]

I find it very easy to win tournaments but suck at picking up on ultra loose ring play. That said, I am not a fan of the roll, but c'est la vie, free fun.

It makes the ultimate beneficiaries of the tournaments the people who dominate ring..

[mattmc419]

I find it very easy to win tournaments but suck at picking up on ultra loose ring play. That said, I am not a fan of the roll, but c'est la vie, free fun.

It makes the ultimate beneficiaries of the tournaments the people who dominate ring..

This.

I'm not totally against the rollover, but it takes a lot of time for the larger amounts and possibly leaves you with nothing for winning the tournament.

Maybe make half the prize an instant payout and the other half have to be rolled over?

[Boner_18]

or allow the winners to select full poker points carrying 3x roll or like 1/4 or 1/6 or something forum points. Just a suggestion.

[a4u2fear]

How about no rollover for pros and rollover for non pros, seems like a good idea

[sinmiedo]

How about no rollover for pros and rollover for non pros, seems like a good idea

i support the motion

[SBR_John]

Some good ideas. Keep in mind most of the good tourney players are the regulars in ring play.

Looks like most guys knockout their rollover in a day or two usually one.

Like it or otherwise it does make for some very entertaining play. Keep in mind also that most of the tourneys are limited to 45 man fields and pay the top 9. Kind of makes sense to pass another relatively modest ring of fire on the way to points financial independence.

[4uk4life]

I am more of a tournament first player but I still have a ton of fun at the cash tables.

[opie1988]

"chit-chat".

I dig it....

[sinmiedo]

I am more of a tournament first player but I still have a ton of fun at the cash tables.

we know that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[4uk4life]

we know that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which part?

[Roadtrip635]

Time consuming to keep rolling over points, especially if you have multiple tourney cashes. Instead of having to play/roll over each individual tourney cash it would be much better to be able to combine them so you can sit at higher limit tables and not be at such a disadvantage with a small bankroll. Big disadvantage with some of the smaller tourney prizes (ex. 25 pts) and everyone sitting at the .25/.50 table buying in with 80-100 pts. Players also losing anything less than a full point when leaving a game, ex. you leave game with 20.95, it gets rounded down to 20.0, soft accounting in SBR's favor. There's also been reports that split pots are not being applied towards rollover. I'd like to see more six seat tables at all levels not just one. Some sit and go's would be nice, especially for those lower end cashes from tourneys or leftover points from higher point cashes. It's nice to have poker back, but this rollover system needs tweaking or scraping.

[sinmiedo]

Which part?

both.you are one of the most fun guy to play.and a gentelman at the table

[a4u2fear]

Some good ideas. Keep in mind most of the good tourney players are the regulars in ring play.

Looks like most guys knockout their rollover in a day or two usually one.

Like it or otherwise it does make for some very entertaining play. Keep in mind also that most of the tourneys are limited to 45 man fields and pay the top 9. Kind of makes sense to pass another relatively modest ring of fire on the way to points financial independence.

Don't kid yourself, at night there is one maybe two tables going. Forthose of us with jobs, rollovers suck. The ring games are not popular, not at all

[Roxxyfish]

I cant win a bean at the moment

[Stefan]

I don't like cash games, I only play tournaments. I would prefer the option to pay a fee and cash out the points without fulfilling a turnover.

[big joe 1212]

maybe just the option to roll over in sportsbook or casino instead

[jjgold]

Walker talk to me when you want to go one on one in $40/$80 fukkin games

real money or no money for Corbin

[Bob Loblaw]

Rollover doesn't bother me. Chances are I'm going to be playing after a tourney cash anyway and so far Ive continued to play long after I've completed the rollover. Plus, I tend to get stupid in the sportsbook and it's nice to have points locked up that I can't bet on some stupid parlay that I'll never hit

[pavyracer]

I turned 12 points at the ring tables today to 140 but wasn't rolling it over.

My dreams came true at the SBR poker ring tables today.

[azn624]

Won 700 in a tournament and ended with 200 after rollover. Just seemed to take forever to rollover 2100.

[BeerDog99]

I dont mind the rollover at all. Overall I can see that it is a little cheezy for the non-regular ring players but I REALLY love the additional action it has brought to the tables.

The one major thing that needs to get fixed is the ability to use your regular points and bonus/rollover points to buyin to a table. It would be great if you can top up as I am never a fan in buying in low but the major issue with this limitation is when you are busted at a table and have no more bonus points, you cannot re-buy with regular points. You have to leave the table and hope to rejoin later.

Lastly, if you add some sort of VIP program and/or rakeback for the play at ring tables, that might help out with peoples dislike for the rollover requirement.

Again, I LOVE the additional action that this has brought, thanks a lot SBR!

[azn624]

The bonus/points we have to rollover should be the first option of deposit when people sit down, as I used my regular balance a few times while depositing and not helping my rollover.

[BeerDog99]

The bonus/points we have to rollover should be the first option of deposit when people sit down, as I used my regular balance a few times while depositing and not helping my rollover.

Agreed, that is a bit of a pain.

[chemicalbrother]

It makes the ultimate beneficiaries of the tournaments the people who dominate ring..

in the end, this is what happens.

guy gets lucky binking a tourney? rolling over 3x that means that the cash game regs are getting it. or sbr via rake.

whatever i guess.

[chemicalbrother]

2 TOTALLY separate things, freeroll tourneys vs cash games.

[zam77]

The smartest thing you could do with poker rollover is have some tourneys that cash with a rollover requirement and some tourneys that cash without a rollover requirement... change it up... keep us enticed. All the other "fixes" I assume will come shortly.

[70kgman]

Don't mind the new higher tourney payouts/but require rollover, just dislike how the rollover works. Too many all in or fold pre-flop knuckleheads ruining the ring games because the rollover rules encourage that kind of behavior. Should be based on rake so it is fair for everyone rolling over points, and you will get more people spending time playing ring games for long periods of times if you weed out the all inners who just go all in 5 or 6 times to quickly clear rollover, then leave. And you should readjust the payout scale so the top 10 get paid again, there shouldn't be a bubble boy at the final table.

[bill2266]

Don't mind the new higher tourney payouts/but require rollover, just dislike how the rollover works. Too many all in or fold pre-flop knuckleheads ruining the ring games because the rollover rules encourage that kind of behavior. Should be based on rake so it is fair for everyone rolling over points, and you will get more people spending time playing ring games for long periods of times if you weed out the all inners who just go all in 5 or 6 times to quickly clear rollover, then leave. And you should readjust the payout scale so the top 10 get paid again, there shouldn't be a bubble boy at the final table.

i totally agree

[EmpireMaker]

rollover forces you to play cash game too long

[Nittany Lion]

I just wish sit and goes were brought back, why can't you have S&Gs open 24 hours like the ring tables? Any good reasons John?

The ring tables beat me up tonight, lost both my stacks at the 2 tables I was playing at. One table I got 10-10 and called a raise, flop came like 3-5-6. This guy raised all in and I called and he had A-4 and of course rivered the Ace. A few hands later at another table I got QQ and someone got dealt AA the same hand so I lost my other stack.

I could never buyin for a large amount of chips, I just know the software would screw me somehow and give me KK while it deals somebody else AA or something. That's why I love S&Gs, you can only lose what the buy in is.