[brooks85]

let me guess, you voted for bush twice.

over al gore and john kerry?

you better fuking believe it. LOL are you serious, are you admitting you voted for 1 or both of them?

[King Mayan]

Obama is a good story teller.
Obama is a good campaigner.
Obama is good at fundraising.
Obama is good in debates.

Obama has no ideas on jobs.
Obama has no ideas on how to close Gitmo.
Obama has no ideas on debt.
Obama has no ideas on a 'balanced' approach to anything.

Obama gives a speech almost every week and says nothing.
Obama wants to be the great compromise-er, but when it comes down to it he passes decisions on to congress.
Obama believes in income redistribution.
Obama does not understand how business works.
Obama took his shot and it failed.

Obama is out of bullets, dying for a 2nd stimulus and losing popular support by the day. Hes also up against high unemployment, gas prices and minute GDP growth. If this were any other president we would be changing the name plate on the oval office already. The reality is that hes a minority, can orate well, charismatic, can raise lots of money and almost impossible to beat.

On his 1st term merits it is very obvious he is not a good president. But, hey at least we can look forward to more vague well written speeches if hes re-elected.

Keep telling yourself that, maybe it will become true. Reagen had a higher unemployment and a lower approval rating than Obama during this time of the presidency.

[crustyme]

over al gore and john kerry?

you better fuking believe it. LOL are you serious, are you admitting you voted for 1 or both of them?

and you have the nerve to call obama voters names?



bush's "accomplishments":

1. ignored 9/11 intelligence which specifically warned him of hijackings and flying commercial airliners in to buildings.

2. invaded iraq on fabricated lies - cost 5000 us soldiers their lives & $4 trillion to tax payers

3. passed the 'american dream downpayment act of 2003' which practically gave away homes to the poor with awful credit.

4. deregulated banking which caused the housing market to crash.

5. manipulated gas prices which resulted in $5/gas. avg american driver paid $3000 more per year on gas alone.

6. lost 4 million jobs in one year (2007-8)

7. created 2 recessions.

8. americans lost $19 trillion in personal wealth thanks to his horrible policies.


obama's accomplishments:

1. created 2 million jobs in a horrible economy.

2. pulled combat troops out of iraq.

3. saved the stock market from crashing (dow was 6000 in march 2009).

4. saved the auto industry from collapse with 'cash 4 clunkers' program (2008 sales were the lowest since 1992)

5. gave healthcare to 50 million unisured americans.

6. killed the worst terrorist in history: bin laden (something bush couldn't do in 7 years)


but voting for bush (twice) was the smart move?

[brooks85]

and you have the nerve to call obama voters names?



bush's "accomplishments":

1. ignored 9/11 intelligence which specifically warned him of hijackings and flying commercial airliners in to buildings.

2. invaded iraq on fabricated lies - cost 5000 us soldiers their lives & $4 trillion to tax payers

3. passed the 'american dream downpayment act of 2003' which practically gave away homes to the poor with awful credit.

4. deregulated banking which caused the housing market to crash.

5. manipulated gas prices which resulted in $5/gas. avg american driver paid $3000 more per year on gas alone.

6. lost 4 million jobs in one year (2007-8)

7. created 2 recessions.

8. americans lost $19 trillion in personal wealth thanks to his horrible policies.


obama's accomplishments:

1. created 2 million jobs in a horrible economy.

2. pulled combat troops out of iraq.

3. saved the stock market from crashing (dow was 6000 in march 2009).

4. saved the auto industry from collapse with 'cash 4 clunkers' program (2008 sales were the lowest since 1992)

5. gave healthcare to 50 million unisured americans.

6. killed the worst terrorist in history: bin laden (something bush couldn't do in 7 years)


but voting for bush (twice) was the smart move?

wow im honestly speechless you believe that bullshit, you are a lost cause. There is no argument to be had with someone like you, when you are that brainwashed it is a waste of time.


I found 4 and 5 especially hilarious tho because you apparently think those were good moves and "accomplishments."

Also "gave healthcare to 50million unisured" haha wow, i can only imagine where you read that "fact"


Shows how dumb you are and that is now a fact.

[Emily_Haines]

obama's accomplishments:

1. created 2 million jobs in a horrible economy.

2. pulled combat troops out of iraq.

3. saved the stock market from crashing (dow was 6000 in march 2009).

4. saved the auto industry from collapse with 'cash 4 clunkers' program (2008 sales were the lowest since 1992)

5. gave healthcare to 50 million unisured americans.

6. killed the worst terrorist in history: bin laden (something bush couldn't do in 7 years)

1] No he didn't unemployment is much higher and rising. The few jobs he did create were IRS scum or other government workers.

2] No he didn't just renamed them to something else fooling our dumbed down population

3] Funny how it was -200 before his speech to instill some confidence in the market and it immediately tanked to -400 during his 30 minute speech. Interest rates are at 0% and there are no magic tricks left. Nothing but steady declines for the last three weeks.

4] Added more to the national debt to save an industry that is not cost competitive and will need more bailouts down the road.

5] At the expense of everyone else. The welfare class gets more free stuff and insurance companies make out like bandits. Also more lies about how it would save money and you could keep your same health care provider.

6] If he killed the worst terrorist, how come we get no proof? No body, no pictures, no nothing, just more lies. Another staged event by this incompetent stooge to get his approval ratings slightly above 0.

[rsnnh12]

wow im honestly speechless you believe that bullshit, you are a lost cause. There is no argument to be had with someone like you, when you are that brainwashed it is a waste of time.


I found 4 and 5 especially hilarious tho because you apparently think those were good moves and "accomplishments."

Also "gave healthcare to 50million unisured" haha wow, i can only imagine where you read that "fact"


Shows how dumb you are and that is now a fact.

Debating crustyme is like debating a 5 year old. He forgets or ignores when you prove him wrong, and then continues to post his disproved "facts".

He thinks the dot com boom and bust had no effect on the economy, that Clinton raising taxes caused the great economy of the 90s (even though the most famous liberal economist, Paul Krugman, says Clinton did next to nothing to cause it), and thinks Bush stopped receiving daily presidential briefs from the CIA, despite them having happened daily by every president since JFK, just because George Tenet didn't personally deliver every single one. He's a moron.

First person ever on my ignore list on this site. Feels good.

[crustyme]

wow im honestly speechless you believe that bullshit, you are a lost cause. There is no argument to be had with someone like you, when you are that brainwashed it is a waste of time.


I found 4 and 5 especially hilarious tho because you apparently think those were good moves and "accomplishments."

Also "gave healthcare to 50million unisured" haha wow, i can only imagine where you read that "fact"


Shows how dumb you are and that is now a fact.

wow, look at all the facts you posted.

[jarvol]

obama's accomplishments:

1. created 2 million jobs in a horrible economy. - learn about business cycles and why a president has little to do with job creation/loss

2. pulled combat troops out of iraq.

3. saved the stock market from crashing (dow was 6000 in march 2009). - how exactly did Obama do this? Again learn about business cycles.

4. saved the auto industry from collapse with 'cash 4 clunkers' program (2008 sales were the lowest since 1992) - robbed taxpayers of even more money to prop up failed corporations who, like every other highly unionized industry, is a failure.

5. gave healthcare to 50 million unisured americans. -Gave? Once again robbed taxpayers in order to provide even more welfare to those who make poor choices in life and refuse to accept responsibility for their actions and should be supported by their family, friends, and tax-exempt churches and charites NOT taxpayers.

6. killed the worst terrorist in history: bin laden (something bush couldn't do in 7 years) - you also gonna give Obama credit for killing thousands of American soldiers fighting in needless wars of aggression against countries who neither attacked nor threatened America? Does the commander in chief also get credit for putting 30 highly trained special forces assets in the same helicopter?

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[DwightShrute]

Emily's right. At least he/she has the guts to call it like it is after being an Obama supporter early on. Why some of you still enthusiastically support this moron is beyond me.

we can only hope ...

[warriorfan707]

stop making threads retard

[eidolon]

Keep telling yourself that, maybe it will become true. Reagen had a higher unemployment and a lower approval rating than Obama during this time of the presidency.

You really think the unemployment rate when be back down to 7.5% by next November? Because for Reagen it dropped back down his 3rd and 4th year; back to where it had started.

[eidolon]

Debating crustyme is like debating a 5 year old. He forgets or ignores when you prove him wrong, and then continues to post his disproved "facts".

He thinks the dot com boom and bust had no effect on the economy, that Clinton raising taxes caused the great economy of the 90s (even though the most famous liberal economist, Paul Krugman, says Clinton did next to nothing to cause it), and thinks Bush stopped receiving daily presidential briefs from the CIA, despite them having happened daily by every president since JFK, just because George Tenet didn't personally deliver every single one. He's a moron.

First person ever on my ignore list on this site. Feels good.

Same here

[ByeShea]

obama's accomplishments:

1. created-

You've been downgraded.

[ronibrown]

not a chance.

[crustyme]

1] No he didn't unemployment is much higher and rising. The few jobs he did create were IRS scum or other government workers.

2] No he didn't just renamed them to something else fooling our dumbed down population

3] Funny how it was -200 before his speech to instill some confidence in the market and it immediately tanked to -400 during his 30 minute speech. Interest rates are at 0% and there are no magic tricks left. Nothing but steady declines for the last three weeks.

4] Added more to the national debt to save an industry that is not cost competitive and will need more bailouts down the road.

5] At the expense of everyone else. The welfare class gets more free stuff and insurance companies make out like bandits. Also more lies about how it would save money and you could keep your same health care provider.

6] If he killed the worst terrorist, how come we get no proof? No body, no pictures, no nothing, just more lies. Another staged event by this incompetent stooge to get his approval ratings slightly above 0.

1. so bureau of labor statistics is a liar? (graph only shows private sector jobs)




2. so pulling over 100,000 us troops out of iraq already and the rest by dec 31, 2011 is just a "name change"?



3. dow march 2009: 6500
dow today: 10,900

change: +68%

4. huh? gm & chrysler were bankrupt and ford headed towards bankruptcy. millions of jobs were about to be lost. now ford is raking in record profits, gm & chrysler are now profitable also. auto sales has gone up every year since cash clunkers. down this year due to the earthquake in japan which slowed production of japanese cars. but the industry is healthy and do not need any more bailouts.

5. obamacare would not only give 50 million uninsured americans much needed healthcare but will decrease national deficit by $143 billion over 10 years, according to the congressional budget office. repealing obamacare will increase the deficit by $230 billion over 10 years, also according to the congressional budget office.

6. so all these congressmen/women who viewed the photos (including many who aren't fans of obama) are liars and co-conspirators when they say they are convinced he is dead after viewing them?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...69-503544.html

[crustyme]

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so bush had little to do with losing 4 million jobs between 2007-8, which was due to the housing market crash, which he caused with his idiotic housing policies?

[rsnnh12]

the dot com boom/bust had no significance to the economy whatsoever.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...l#post10753988

[jjgold]

Obama worst Pres in us history and of course the dumbest

What a jackass

He ruined world..why ..because he gives everything to minorities that do not want to work

[DwightShrute]

so bush had little to do with losing 4 million jobs between 2007-8, which was due to the housing market crash, which he caused with his idiotic housing policies?

why do you keep blaming Bush? It's ridiculous. The facts are very clear ... Obama has made things much much worse. It's not even close. Yes Bush over-spent and if you want to keep bringing that up while giving a free pass to Obama who spent much more in only 2 years and made things much worse then you are a hypocrite. This is Change? Give your head a shake.

[jarvol]

so bush had little to do with losing 4 million jobs between 2007-8, which was due to the housing market crash, which he caused with his idiotic housing policies?

Please enlighten on what housing policies Bush himself solely enacted.....

[King Mayan]

Emily's right. At least he/she has the guts to call it like it is after being an Obama supporter early on. Why some of you still enthusiastically support this moron is beyond me.

we can only hope ...

Unreal. We have one Canadian that hates the USA(foreskin) and we have another one that hates Obama(even though he can't vote)

[RubberKettle]

Keep telling yourself that, maybe it will become true. Reagen had a higher unemployment and a lower approval rating than Obama during this time of the presidency.

Another comparison to Reagan*. You must be listening to the White House rhetoric. Obama does not even have the faintest idea of how Reagan turned the economy around. And if he found similar solutions he wouldn't dare implement them.

[The Bet Master]

over al gore and john kerry?

you better fuking believe it. LOL are you serious, are you admitting you voted for 1 or both of them?

Are you retarded? If you voted for him twice you obviously aren't even worth talking to because there is something seriously wrong with you.

[DwightShrute]

Unreal. We have one Canadian that hates the USA(foreskin) and we have another one that hates Obama(even though he can't vote)

typical Liberal using ad hominem when can't contribute anything constructive.

[crustyme]

Debating crustyme is like debating a 5 year old. He forgets or ignores when you prove him wrong, and then continues to post his disproved "facts".

He thinks the dot com boom and bust had no effect on the economy, that Clinton raising taxes caused the great economy of the 90s (even though the most famous liberal economist, Paul Krugman, says Clinton did next to nothing to cause it), and thinks Bush stopped receiving daily presidential briefs from the CIA, despite them having happened daily by every president since JFK, just because George Tenet didn't personally deliver every single one. He's a moron.

First person ever on my ignore list on this site. Feels good.

idiot couldn't handle the facts pummeling him and his lies.



possibly the dumbest neocon i've ever met. has no facts, just spins lies and more lies. lost every debate he had against me.

highlights:

1. this dumb neocon claimed cheney had no connections or loyalty to haliburton as vp of the united states. even though he continued to receive a paycheck from them as vp and owned large stock options. cheney ensured haliburton was awarded the $7 billion iraqi contract by blocking other companies from bidding and working in conjunction with the chief negotiator of the contract, as confirmed in an email by the negotiator. but cheney had no loyalty.

2. this dumb neocon claims bush didn't know hijackings would happen. even though when he was handed the pdb titled "bin laden determined to strike within the us" it contained intelligence about bin laden supporters being inside the us, activities consistent with hijackings, and surveillance of buildings in nyc. he was also told about terrorist extremists taking flying lessons on 747s and also knew about cia warnings of al qaeda flying commercial airliners in to buildings. but bush was too lazy vacationing for a month to return to the white house to try and prevent it.

3. this dumb neocon claims ford was profitable without obama's 'cash 4 clunkers' program. ford lost $14.6 billion in 2008 and $4 billion in 1st 2 quarters of 2009... headed for bankruptcy. then miraculously turned a profit in 3rd quarter for the first time in years. what happened in the 3rd quarter? 'cash 4 clunkers' was introduced!!!!!

4. this dumb neocon claims bush didn't cause the housing crash even tho he passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to poor with awful credit. bush also allowed the sec in 2004 to exempt the largest investment banks from net capital rule which allowed top 5 us investment banks to take on $4 trillion in bad subprime debt which caused them to go belly up. this rule is cited by many experts as the primary cause of the mortgage meltodwn. but he had nothing to do with it.


there are more but you get the idea.

[King Mayan]

typical Liberal using ad hominem when can't contribute anything constructive.

Yeah, yeah.. Non-USA citizen, stick to your socialist country. And you really contribute with your Photoshop pics and YouTube vids.

[JW Cash]

we need trump as pres

[RubberKettle]

^

Everyone who isn't Chris Matthews is a neocon too.

[King Mayan]

Another comparison to Reagan*. You must be listening to the White House rhetoric. Obama does not even have the faintest idea of how Reagan turned the economy around. And if he found similar solutions he wouldn't dare implement them.

Yes rubberman knows all.

[DwightShrute]

Yeah, yeah.. Non-USA citizen, stick to your socialism country.

and the over educated American strikes again Good one bud!

[King Mayan]

and the over educated American strikes again Good one bud!

You're the one with the hard-on for obama and our political process.

[rsnnh12]

This message is hidden because crustyme is on your ignore list.



I'm sure he just posted more lies and manipulations, what a surprise

Hey crusty, please tell everyone again how the dot com boom/bust had no significance on the economy

Don't worry, I already linked your quote, so don't bother denying you said it like you did before

[RubberKettle]

Yes rubberman knows all.

No, I know very little.

[DwightShrute]

You're the one with the hard-on for obama and our political process.

you either are delusional or purposely distorting the truth. I suspect the latter.

[Emily_Haines]

You call it Dwight and were 100% right.

You called this guy a bum right out of the gate on day 1