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    "Public records show that Gore’s Nashville Mansion used in one month more than twice the electricity the typical American household uses in a year: His average monthly electric bill was more than $1,359."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    rsnnh12 is a punk

    He liked getting raped by Republicans

    Tax cuts for the rich, 2 wars, Medicare and Medicaid cuts, on and on he likes it
    Lol. The middle and lower classes also got big tax cuts under Bush (bigger than the rich). Medicare and Medicaid are unsustainable, and quite frankly, I would rather not let our government be in charge of that stuff. They suck at running any type of business, why trust them with your health care?

    Not really a fan of the wars, we should've let our military go in, kick ass, and leave. Simple as that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You guys remember the days when our country was debt free, no US troops were dying daily, everyone owned a house and had money in the bank, everyone loved us in the world and the only "problem" was our president getting a BJ from his intern?
    And was the only reason Gore narrowly lost. The Republican during that year were run on a campaign call "Restoring Moral and Decency to the oval office" and all them dumb religions fuks bought it. Everyone 10 years ago knew Bush wasn't ready to become President because his only political experience was being a six year governor. The guy didn't know to how to run a country, while Cheney was doing all the work. Had he never been elected, it's without certainty that this country's would had been off economically right now. It's wasn't like Gore was a dumb@ss either, it would of knew how to properly run the country back then.

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    Col. Oliver North warned a senate investigative counsel in 1987 (14 years before 9/11) let's revisit that dialogue you comment about that snafu.

    It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of
    Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan
    Administration.

    There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the
    third degree, but what he said was stunning!

    He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security
    system?'

    Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

    The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little
    excessive?'

    'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

    'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

    'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

    'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

    'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

    'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

    'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

    At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

    'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.


    'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

    'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to
    eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth..'

    The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.



    By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

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    Right, because Al Gore would never lie or embellish the truth for personal profit or gain. Oh wait that is all he has done is be an effin hypocrite when it comes to being an environmentalist. He is nothing but a profiteer and he has duped liberals and guilted them into living a lifestyle Al was not willing to live himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    Lol. The middle and lower classes also got big tax cuts under Bush (bigger than the rich). Medicare and Medicaid are unsustainable, and quite frankly, I would rather not let our government be in charge of that stuff. They suck at running any type of business, why trust them with your health care?

    Not really a fan of the wars, we should've let our military go in, kick ass, and leave. Simple as that.

    The rich should not have got tax cuts plain and simple. As for health care how would like it if someone close to you was seriously sick and denied health care because of a pre-existing health condition? Obamacare will change that. As for the wars, that's still on bush, if Obama pulls everyone out now who knows what the fukk would happen over there and everyone would blame it on Obama for pulling out early. Its a fukkin mess when you have to inherit the debt of bush

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    Media Ignore Al Gore’s Financial Ties to Global Warming

    March 3, 2007 — budsimmons Media Ignore Al Gore’s Financial Ties to Global Warming

    Posted by Noel Sheppard on March 2, 2007 – 09:58.
    As NewsBusters reported here, here, and here, there are huge dollars to be made from global warming alarmism. However, conceivably no one is better positioned to financially benefit from this scam than Dr. Global Warming himself, former Vice President Al Gore, a fact that the media will surely not share with Americans any time soon.
    Yet, if America’s press would take some time out of their busy schedules covering the earth-shattering details surrounding Anna Nicole Smith’s demise, they might find a deliciously inconvenient truth about the soon-to-be-Dr. Gore that is significantly more fascinating and diabolical than anything likely to emerge from that courtroom in Broward County, Florida.
    As reported by Dan Riehl (emphasis mine throughout):
    Former Vice President Al Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can’t afford to play on Gore’s terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years.
    Think Katie, Charlie, or Brian will be all over this tonight? Regardless, that was just the tip of the questionably melting iceberg as reported by Bill Hobbs in Nashville, Tennessee:
    [H]ow Gore buys his “carbon offsets,” as revealed by The Tennessean raises serious questions. According to the newspaper’s report, Gore buys his carbon offsets through Generation Investment Management:
    Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe…
    Gore is chairman of the firm and, presumably, draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he “buys” his “carbon offsets” from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself. To be blunt, Gore doesn’t buy “carbon offsets” through Generation Investment Management – he buys stocks.
    Fascinating. So, as Dr. Global Warming travels the world in his private jet while spending 20 times the average American on energy for his home, all the time telling us its okay because he’s buying carbon offsets, he’s actually purchasing these investments from himself.
    Furthermore, and maybe more important, Gore stands to benefit financially in a potentially huge way if more and more people buy into this junk science.
    Isn’t that special?
    Yet, it is not clear that Gore’s money is going to purchase carbon offsets at all. Riehl reported:
    Here’s a list indicating what it takes to make money along with Al. Funds associated with these companies have placed millions of dollars under Al Gore’s control. And, as you’ll see below, Gore’s selection for the US President of GIM might raise a few eyebrows as well.
    AFLAC INC – AQUANTIVE INC – AUTODESK INC – BECTON DICKINSON & CO BLACKBAUD INC – GENERAL ELECTRIC CO – GREENHILL & CO INC – JOHNSON CTLS INC – LABORATORY CORP AMER HLDGS – METABOLIX INC – NORTHERN TR CORP – NUVEEN INVTS INC -STAPLES INC – SYSCO CORP – TECHNE CORP – UBS AG – VCA ANTECH INC – WATERS CORP – WHOLE FOODS MKT INC
    According to their own documents, GIM intends to invest in, or buy companies poised to cash in on Global Warming concerns.
    Putting this in perspective, for years the left and their media minions have posited that George W. Bush started war with Iraq to benefit the company Vice President Dick Cheney used to run, Halliburton, as well as Bush’s oil tycoon friends. In fact, there have been times when you couldn’t swing a dead cat in any pressroom in this nation without hitting a reporter working on such a story.
    Yet, as the former Vice President continues to plug global warming as a coming crisis in need of immediate attention, the same media completely ignore his obvious financial conflicts of interest.
    No liberal media bias there.
    However, as Riehl pointed out, this story is even juicier:
    To add insult to injury, Gore chose Peter S. Knight, an old friend and colleague some are sure to recall, as the US President of GIM.
    Peter S. Knight, formerly Managing Director Met West Financial, lawyer, Chief of Staff for Senator Al Gore (D-TN) from 1977-1989, and Campaign Manager for President Clinton’s successful re-election in 1996, is President of Generation U.S.
    This would be him: Reno Rejects Inquiry Into a Clinton Aide
    Atty Gen Janet Reno decides against any further investigation of Peter Knight, Pres Clinton’s 1996 campaign manager in connection with office building development in nation’s capital; such an investigation could have led to naming independent counsel to look further into activities of Knight, who is also former top assistant to Vice Pres Al Gore.
    Yes, thanks to Janet Reno, no one ever found out how $20,000 in stock turned up in an account for Knight’s then 13 year old child.
    Dispute over Democratic Party campaign-financing shifts to Zachary Knight, 13-year-old son of Peter S Knight, Clinton-Gore campaign chairman in 1996, who was given $20,000 in stock by William Haney 3d, chairman of Molten Metal Technology Inc; Republicans believe gift, which came after father was named chairman of campaign, was really payment to Knight, who had worked as $7,000-per-month lobbyist for company; Knight denies involvement in any impropriety; photo
    Riehl accurately asked:
    If Gore’s motivation in pushing Global Warming is so altruistic, was it really necessarily for the already wealthy Gore to establish a multi-million dollar corporation in England to cash in? And given the history of Gore and Knight, are these people we should trust to drive a re-vamping of the world economy at the same time they’re lining their pockets because of our much smaller carbon footprints?
    Riehl marvelously concluded:
    If Al Gore is successful with this latest scheme, Gore and his cronies are going to be much more $green$ than most of the earth. And the only green in this for you and me is the kind that accompanies envy as Gore trucks around on private jets putting dollars to offset his extravagance into a cash machine generating profits on the backs of the middle class with misrepresented science that doesn’t deserve to be called science at all.
    Meanwhile, a complacent media, rather than hounding Gore over his financial conflicts of interest, continue to shill for this conman’s junk science.
    When you add it all up, this is a flimflam of epic proportions:

    • First, Gore sets up a company that will invest in other companies that will benefit from global warming alarmism
    • Second, Gore gets some Hollywood types to fund and produce a movie designed to scare the c-c-carbon out of the population
    • Third, Gore travels the world promoting this movie, while pushing the view that a cataclysm is imminent if the world doesn’t immediately act
    • Fourth, an adoring media falls for the con hook, line, and sinker. Rather than debunking the flaws in the theories, the media promote every word of it while advancing the concept that Gore’s views represent those of an overwhelming majority of scientists
    • Fifth, scared governments and citizens across the globe invest in alternative energy programs driving up the shares of companies Gore’s group has already invested in
    • Sixth, Gore and his cronies make billions as they laugh all the way to the bank at the stupidity of their fellow citizens

    America — what a country!

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    Al Gore is an idiot. Go take a real look at Al Gore's energy usage and get back to me smart guy.

    Oh by the way, the really, really smart people talking about the "rich" paying their "fair share" which is a joke because who can define fair anyway (no one) is completely subjective (go ahead and look that word up)...take a gander.

    In 2008 the highest marginal tax rate of 35% applied to all AGI above $357,700.00. In that year the total amount of AGI subject to the highest rate was $622.8 Billion. The government collected in taxes $218.0 Billion (35%).

    In 2011 the annual budget deficit will be nearly $1,665.0 Billion and in 2012: $1,100.0 Billion. If the Democrats succeed in raising the highest marginal rate, how much more would Washington D.C. receive, assuming no change in behavior and a general eagerness to pay more?

    If the highest rate of 35% were raised by a factor of 20% to 42%, then the additional tax revenue would be $43.5 Billion, not much of a dent in $1,665.0 Billion. So, let's raise the rate by a factor of 50% to 52.5%; the additional revenue would be $108.9 Billion. Still nowhere near enough, so let's just tax it at a rate of 100%, bringing in an additional $404.8 Billion. Unfortunately the country is still $1,260.0 Billion in the hole for the year.

    Obviously by confiscating at 100% of all the income of the so-called rich above a predetermined level, there would never again be an incentive to earn above the highest tax rate threshold. So where will the Left have to turn next: where the money is, the middle class.

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    For all you Republican fukks, go take on jjgolds 50k gambling debt. Lets see what you can do

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    If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle...get outta here with that nonsense

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    A lot of people here have never graduated high school, and it is really, really obvious.

    They can't formulate an opinion, much less an argument.

    In the next 30 years, those with social skills will be looked at like freaks.

    The real world will be almost exactly like the movie "Idiocracy"

    So basically talking to those have no idea what they are talking about is A LOT like this clip:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar Bait View Post
    A lot of people here have never graduated high school, and it is really, really obvious.

    They can't formulate an opinion, much less an argument.

    In the next 30 years, those with social skills will be looked at like freaks.

    The real world will be almost exactly like the movie "Idiocracy"

    So basically talking to those have no idea what they are talking about is A LOT like this clip:

    Cougar, I know you have me on the ignore list like the lil bitch you are. But if you don't like it, go back to the e-reach-around forum.

    You ain't shit but a snotty lil female that thinks SBR owes you something because you were poster of the month/year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Cougar, I know you have me on the ignore list like the lil bitch you are. But if you don't like it, go back to the e-reach-around forum. You ain't shit but a snotty lil female that thinks SBR owes you something because you were poster of the month/year.
    gilfbait buried

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    i voted for Gore, he won my state

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    Never happened huh? Interesting. Not factual but interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    i voted for Gore, he won my state
    figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    The rich should not have got tax cuts plain and simple. As for health care how would like it if someone close to you was seriously sick and denied health care because of a pre-existing health condition? Obamacare will change that. As for the wars, that's still on bush, if Obama pulls everyone out now who knows what the fukk would happen over there and everyone would blame it on Obama for pulling out early. Its a fukkin mess when you have to inherit the debt of bush
    Why shouldn't the rich have gotten tax cuts like everyone else? They already pay more than their fair share of taxes, so why should they pay more of the burden?

    I never said our current system is perfect. Obamacare WILL fail... look at how Romneycare ruined Massachusetts, and that was with a population that really supported it. Now imagine that on a national scale...

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    well, he did claim to invent the internet....LOL

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    na, this nation was heading into disaster well before bush. the financial community has its hold on both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    i voted for Gore, he won my state
    Dummies always win our state. How are our roads, public schools, and taxes?? Some of the worst in the nation. Believe me, that's not an accident.

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    lol imagine the billions gore would have wasted on global warming and all you supporters would have loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You guys remember the days when our country was debt free, no US troops were dying daily, everyone owned a house and had money in the bank, everyone loved us in the world and the only "problem" was our president getting a BJ from his intern?
    The country wasn't debt free back in the 90's when Clinton was President but at least the budget was balanced by the Republican majority in Congress despite Clinton trying to veto it.

    The only "problem" about that President wasn't just getting a BJ from his intern. It was a pattern of sexual harassment of women along with perjury.

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    ya everyone owned a house because they didn't put a dollar down on it because that president getting a bj said its every american's right to own a home haha

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    without al gore, we wouldnt be talking on thisforum.....bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaa

    dude invented the internet!
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    I tend to agree, but it's so speculative that there's no way to prove anything. It's like an alternate reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    lol imagine the billions gore would have wasted on global warming and all you supporters would have loved it.
    Maybe we'd be energy independent and not reliant on foreign oil. Heaven forbid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    This country would of been in great hands financially today. Sept 11 probably had even happen.
    Best post I've read in a long long long time.

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    Ross Perot could of done a better job that Bush Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumLeap View Post
    The country wasn't debt free back in the 90's when Clinton was President but at least the budget was balanced by the Republican majority in Congress despite Clinton trying to veto it.

    The only "problem" about that President wasn't just getting a BJ from his intern. It was a pattern of sexual harassment of women along with perjury.
    I would rather have the president of my country getting BJ's and lying about it than having 10,000 US troops dead, unbalanced budgets and trillion dollars in debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I would rather have the president of my country getting BJ's and lying about it than having 10,000 US troops dead, unbalanced budgets and trillion dollars in debt.
    You're ok with the President lying under oath?

    Its a little ridiculous that it got to that point, but he fukking lied under oath. People hate Bush and claim he lied because he (along with everyone else) got bad intel about WMDs, but Clinton lying under oath is ok?

    We were trillions in debt when Clinton was Pres too, although he didn't add much to it. The tech boom saved him, but he did do a great job managing the economy once it took off

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    This country would of been in great hands financially today. Sept 11 probably had even happen.

    true.

    9/11 happened because dumbya refused to do his f'n job and instead took a month long vacation just prior to 9/11 (longest vacation since fdr). and to people who claim it was a "working vacation," he never once discussed the terrorist threats with anyone.

    gore had a great relationship with the anti-terrorism czar who had been sending presidential memos marked 'urgent - bin laden planning to attack inside the us' to bush. gore would 100% have met him face to face and discussed these threats, unlike bush who refused a face to face meeting for 8 months. only met him after 9/11 to demand he find a link to iraq.

    invasion of iraq would never have happened under gore. it was no secret bush wanted to invade iraq as he told his biographer years before he became president that he would "invade iraq if he had the same resources" his father had.

    gas prices would not have risen to $5. they only went up because bush and cheney manipulated the oil market by purchasing 50 million barrels of oil in preparation for invasion of iraq. and of course the invasion took iraqi oil offline in the tune of 1.3 million barrels of oil per day which caused prices to soar.

    the housing market would not have collapsed. i doubt gore would have passed the republican backed 'american dream downpayment act of 2003' which essentially gave free homes to the poor with bad credit. bush passed it because his largest donor just happened to own the largest subprime lending business at the time. bush also reversed the anti-predatory lending laws so his donor wouldn't be prosecuted for all the predatory lending he was involved in.

    but i do have to say gore lost the election due to his own stupidity. first he selected a jew as his running mate. second he distanced himself from clinton and tried to take credit for everything.

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    Crusty- have you actually read the 'bin laden attacking US' memo? Serious question, no more petty bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    Crusty- have you actually read the 'bin laden attacking US' memo? Serious question, no more petty bullshit

    did bush?


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    Any fool that believes that this nation would be better off had Al Gore won the election in 2000 is just showing his complete and total ignorance.

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