[dlowilly]

I am not all that informed about the situation with Ezekiel Elliott and the Cowboys, but I believe it's another of the more and more common rookie contract negotiation deals. He wants paid like the other workhorse superstar backs in the league and his current contract isn't doing that.

IMO, he definitely deserves to be one of the highest paid backs in the league. Problem is, teams can't renegotiate contracts when a player is a bust or tears a tendon, that guy still gets paid.

Who's side are you on, Ezekiel Elliott or Jerry Jones and the Cowboys?

[Sam Odom]

Ezekiel will be incarcerated within 10yrs

[Hman]

I will always side with the team and/or owner over a player who is still under contract trying to breach it

[Eddy Munny]

What does a contract even mean anymore if you can holdout before it expires? Just a tentative agreement?

I don't really get involved too much with the business side of individual players because I frankly don't care but I'm siding with the team on principle alone.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Cowboys aren’t winning shit with or without Elliot. Garbage franchise ran by a piece of crap.

I usually side with players in contract negotiations. Owners have more than enough to pay out guaranteed contracts. When teams can cut players without paying them what they signed for, I have zero empathy for ownership.

People who side with owners most likely were snitches as kids.

[seaborneq]

If teams don't want to pay players why don't they trade them to someone who will. This has never made any sense to me. If a team can't or won't pay a player then trade said player and get someone else. The team is always on the wrong side of this. Pay market value or let someone else do it. Just stupid on the Cowboys part. When he comes back he will get hurt or be out of playing shape. Don't let any player hold a team hostage.

[Sam Odom]

sea

Dallas is NOT on the wrong side here... Ezekiel looks bad turning down the last Cowboy's offer

[RudyRuetigger]

nothing to do with sports betting

saloon thread

[Sam Odom]

Rudy

thread is race baiting

[SamsNCharge99]

Im a cowboys fan and im a huge zeke fan and im pissed at zeke

selfish. Hes basically saying fukk you to Dak and Cooper and rest of team. You dont run the team jerry does like it or not. You dont wanna play go to another team

[Sam Odom]

You dont wanna play go to another team

in 2 years

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Ezekiel will be incarcerated within 10yrs

On what charges?

[Sam Odom]

Gun/drugs related

[eidolon]

He is still under rookie contract, where he had his contract negotiated for the guaranteed money. Unless he wants to give back all of the guarantee money he received, I side with the team.

This is different than the Leveon Bell situation, where Pittsburgh were being pieces of shit and franchised him twice.

[KiDBaZkiT]

Zeke one of the ugliest humans alive. Cringe when he smiles. Also running backs a dime a dozen. Jets going to find that out the hard way with Bell. Cowboys are right for not paying him. He is replaceable.

[seaborneq]

Im a cowboys fan and im a huge zeke fan and im pissed at zeke

selfish. Hes basically saying fukk you to Dak and Cooper and rest of team. You dont run the team jerry does like it or not. You dont wanna play go to another team

Eric Dickerson, Jerome Bettis, Leveon Bell, Ricky Watters, Marshall Faulk, etc. A lot of all time great RBs have been traded to another team. The player doesn't care who they play for, as long as they are getting paid as much as is humanly possible. Each of those players except Bettis and Faulk went to a worse team. Trust me. The money means more than the location of the team. If I'm going to be used up by my team I want to be paid like it. Otherwise trade me to a team that will use me up and pay me, not low ball me.

[seaborneq]

Zeke one of the ugliest humans alive. Cringe when he smiles. Also running backs a dime a dozen. Jets going to find that out the hard way with Bell. Cowboys are right for not paying him. He is replaceable.

If Zeke is replaceable then the Cowboys should trade him. Some other team would pay him like or more than Gurley

[Grits n' Gravy]

sea

Dallas is NOT on the wrong side here... Ezekiel looks bad turning down the last Cowboy's offer

Nobody here knows any of the actual offers. Oh wait, you saw a piece in the news about it and take it as truth but everything else is fake news. Sammy is a sheep.

[seaborneq]

sea

Dallas is NOT on the wrong side here... Ezekiel looks bad turning down the last Cowboy's offer

Are the Cowboys going to give Zeke the ball as much as possible?? Then why don't they pay him as much as possible. Do you think another team would pay Zeke Gurley type money? If so, let Zeke be their headache, but for the Cowboys to keep offering after he has turned them down is absolute foolishness.

[Sam Odom]

Grits

dont take it personal

GL today with your bets

[MUHerd37]

Jerry Jones all day

[stevenash]

What does a contract even mean anymore if you can holdout before it expires? Just a tentative agreement?

I don't really get involved too much with the business side of individual players because I frankly don't care but I'm siding with the team on principle alone.

Spot on.
He's playing a game for mega millions for a living, he's not digging ditches in a graveyard for 12 bucks an hour.

[jtoler]

this has been happening since I was a kid, guy holds out and team finally pays him when they could have did that earlier and had him in camp ready for the 1st game jerry knows he aint trying to lose zeke

[dlowilly]

I usually side with players in contract negotiations. Owners have more than enough to pay out guaranteed contracts. When teams can cut players without paying them what they signed for, I have zero empathy for ownership.

But an NFL team is a business. Who is to say extra money should go to the player over the owner? A team being able to cut a player and that player not getting non guaranteed money is no breach of the contract. If a player doesn't like that, get more guaranteed money. A player renegotiating a contract because he wants more money isn't part of the contract. Claiming players should get more money because owners have it is leftist SJW hogwash.

[KiDBaZkiT]

Are the Cowboys going to give Zeke the ball as much as possible?? Then why don't they pay him as much as possible. Do you think another team would pay Zeke Gurley type money? If so, let Zeke be their headache, but for the Cowboys to keep offering after he has turned them down is absolute foolishness.

You keep bringing up Todd unhealthy Girley. How did his team fare in the Superbowl last year? NFL is a PASSING league. That is not a secret. Do you see New England paying backs big $? No. Look at the successful playoff teams. None have a top paid back. Franchises are much smarter to pay multiple players, Philly's Superbowl team is a perfect example.

[dlowilly]

If Zeke is replaceable then the Cowboys should trade him. Some other team would pay him like or more than Gurley

Are the Cowboys going to give Zeke the ball as much as possible?? Then why don't they pay him as much as possible. Do you think another team would pay Zeke Gurley type money? If so, let Zeke be their headache, but for the Cowboys to keep offering after he has turned them down is absolute foolishness.

These posts are all emotion and no logic

Dallas made a good investment that panned out. How would you like it if you bought a stock in a company you saw potential in at $5, 3 years later it was worth $50, and that company called you up and demanded you pay them $45 per share or they will force a buyback at $5 so they can sell to someone else for $50?

[Thrilla]

[TheMoneyShot]

No need for Elliott to be a bitch.

[SBR Tony]

I will always side with the team and/or owner over a player who is still under contract trying to breach it

especially when there's 2 years left on that contract. let's see how he feels about sitting out that long !

[Sam Odom]

Rudy

thread is race baiting

[cincinnatikid513]

he's got 2 years left on his contract plus he gets in trouble i would make him play this year out then talk about an extension

[seaborneq]

These posts are all emotion and no logic

Dallas made a good investment that panned out. How would you like it if you bought a stock in a company you saw potential in at $5, 3 years later it was worth $50, and that company called you up and demanded you pay them $45 per share or they will force a buyback at $5 so they can sell to someone else for $50?

Zeke was the number 4 pick. He wasn't drafted in the 3rd round or lower. They knew he could help them win a super bowl and drafted him accordingly, AND he still has outperformed his contract and draft position. Don't use that penny stock analogy with Zeke. Everyone knew Zeke would be a game changer.

[jtoler]

hardly ever get right answers when dealing with money and athletes because the people answering arnt making the money its an easy equation once you put yourself in the position nobody performing the best wants to not be paid anywhere near the best nobody would just be quiet about that situation

[dlowilly]

Zeke was the number 4 pick. He wasn't drafted in the 3rd round or lower. They knew he could help them win a super bowl and drafted him accordingly, AND he still has outperformed his contract and draft position. Don't use that penny stock analogy with Zeke. Everyone knew Zeke would be a game changer.

Did someone else sign the contract?

[seaborneq]

You keep bringing up Todd unhealthy Girley. How did his team fare in the Superbowl last year? NFL is a PASSING league. That is not a secret. Do you see New England paying backs big $? No. Look at the successful playoff teams. None have a top paid back. Franchises are much smarter to pay multiple players, Philly's Superbowl team is a perfect example.

The team than won the Super Bowl had Tom Brady. If you don't have a Tom Brady type QB you need someone to help the team win in other ways. Last I checked only one team had a Tom Brady, everyone else needs maximum help, and Zeke would help any QB be better, even Brady.