[freakydave]

Dec 4 3:20pm	3 Team Parlay - Pending	to win
1. Football - Minnesota Vikings - spread +1½ (+110) for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 1:00pm [pending]
2. Football - St Louis Rams - spread +3½ (-125) for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 1:00pm [pending]
3. Football - Green Bay Packers - spread -6½ (-115) for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 8:30pm [pending]

[Spedizzo]

You could get Vikings at +3 now... Packers also a dangerous one to call if Mathews isn't back

I think it loses

[freakydave]

You could get Vikings at +3 now... Packers also a dangerous one to call if Mathews isn't back

I think it loses

Not at the greek it's +1 +120 I bought the hook in all 3 BTW the GB game is a ? of how much they win by not whether they win or lose.Detroit is not going to win in GB -the Pack is starting to get players back they are only going to get better.

[Slimpickens]

Tough to tell what to expect from Detroit after that pathetic throwing away of last Sunday's game. If they come to play there best game they should put up some serious points. I could never lay a TD with the way this Packer team has been playing lately.

[Pivotpoint]

If I liked the Vikings, I would want the field goal. Why the 1 1/2 ? I see the Bears winning this by 3-6 points. I have a ML play on the Bears already.

Rams struggle to score Offensive td's. 49ers literally handed the Rams the win last week. Still hard to believe they lost to horrible Jets , few weeks back. Bills powerful small number home fav.When everybody and their mother is saying Fisher is gold as a dog, well, it's usually time to get off that. Bills by a Touchdown.

One would think the Pack should roll here. Home, Lions on grass, laying less than a td. I don't know. I want them to lose and hate the Lions, but this could be close. I see this game real tight with the winner winning by 3. Wouldn't be surprised if the Lions win and considering placing a small play on them with the moneyline. Still looking at the games, but quick thoughts. gl

[casinobones]

Dec 4 3:20pm	3 Team Parlay - Pending	to win
1. Football - Minnesota Vikings - spread +1½ (+110) for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 1:00pm [pending]
2. Football - St Louis Rams - spread +3½ (-125) for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 1:00pm [pending]
3. Football - Green Bay Packers - spread -6½ (-115) for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 8:30pm [pending]

It's about time for Green Bay to have a "Break out"game and who better to do it against than your in Division Rival at home and with the possibly of Jennings coming back although Jordy nelson is out,I still like GB in this spot & also love the over,because the GB is gonna score and Detroit gives up alot and seems like they are always playing catch up,and wait until the end to turn it on.So the over should be be considered here as well.Good Luck,also like the Bears & Rams...

[freakydave]

Tough to tell what to expect from Detroit after that pathetic throwing away of last Sunday's game. If they come to play there best game they should put up some serious points. I could never lay a TD with the way this Packer team has been playing lately.

G.Jennings played vs Minny so this will be his 2nd game back--Woodson may return for this game--I figure GB by a TD so I bought the hook---I should have just taken the +1 with Minny(+120)-The bears are now w/o Urlacher & Jennings is hurt.They gave up 400+yds to the seahawks & their D is getting worse by subtraction-furthermore the last time they played the bears embarassed Minny I expect the Vikings to show up at home.
As for STL well I just think either team could win & should be very close.

[freakydave]

If I liked the Vikings, I would want the field goal. Why the 1 1/2 ? I see the Bears winning this by 3-6 points. I have a ML play on the Bears already.

Rams struggle to score Offensive td's. 49ers literally handed the Rams the win last week. Still hard to believe they lost to horrible Jets , few weeks back. Bills powerful small number home fav.When everybody and their mother is saying Fisher is gold as a dog, well, it's usually time to get off that. Bills by a Touchdown.

One would think the Pack should roll here. Home, Lions on grass, laying less than a td. I don't know. I want them to lose and hate the Lions, but this could be close. I see this game real tight with the winner winning by 3. Wouldn't be surprised if the Lions win and considering placing a small play on them with the moneyline. Still looking at the games, but quick thoughts. gl

So basically you dislike all 3 picks---With Urlacher out & Jennings injured the bears D is just not as good as it was vs Seattle where they gave up 400+ yds & now they go on the road to a division rival-bad news for the bears-You say they win by 3-6 & then say you have them on the money hmm.I will taking Minny on the money I don't why the public loves the bears but 24-23 Bears would make us both winners--problem is the bears might not be able to hold minny down.

Rams D should be able to keep this game close & win it late.I'll take Jackson vs the 30th ranked run D & Bradford only has to limit the T.O.'s to minimum for a decent shot at outright victory.
As to the bolded part GB has beaten Det 10 times in a row--until they prove they can beat GB i'll take GB.
this 3 teamer is a buying the hook experiment for me it will be very interesting to see if it matters in any of them.

[freakydave]

It's about time for Green Bay to have a "Break out"game and who better to do it against than your in Division Rival at home and with the possibly of Jennings coming back although Jordy nelson is out,I still like GB in this spot & also love the over,because the GB is gonna score and Detroit gives up alot and seems like they are always playing catch up,and wait until the end to turn it on.So the over should be be considered here as well.Good Luck,also like the Bears & Rams...

It's Jennings second game back so that should help on offence.
I'd be careful betting the bears --Jared Allen should tear the concussion kid a new one & the Bears D is short handed.

[hougigo]

It's about time for Green Bay to have a "Break out"game and who better to do it against than your in Division Rival at home and with the possibly of Jennings coming back although Jordy nelson is out,I still like GB in this spot & also love the over,because the GB is gonna score and Detroit gives up alot and seems like they are always playing catch up,and wait until the end to turn it on.So the over should be be considered here as well.Good Luck,also like the Bears & Rams...

GB and Detroit... a game decided by 5 or less

[freakydave]

Now I like this even better the Bills starting centre is out for the season.Reshuffling the O/line(especially the Centre) =Danger

[freakydave]

GB and Detroit... a game decided by 5 or less

GB 10-0 in the last 10 SU & 7-3 ATS
Last week they were not supposed to cover 7.5 ---I'll take my chances--

[Pivotpoint]

So basically you dislike all 3 picks---With Urlacher out & Jennings injured the bears D is just not as good as it was vs Seattle where they gave up 400+ yds & now they go on the road to a division rival-bad news for the bears-You say they win by 3-6 & then say you have them on the money hmm.I will taking Minny on the money I don't why the public loves the bears but 24-23 Bears would make us both winners--problem is the bears might not be able to hold minny down.

Rams D should be able to keep this game close & win it late.I'll take Jackson vs the 30th ranked run D & Bradford only has to limit the T.O.'s to minimum for a decent shot at outright victory.
As to the bolded part GB has beaten Det 10 times in a row--until they prove they can beat GB i'll take GB.
this 3 teamer is a buying the hook experiment for me it will be very interesting to see if it matters in any of them.

Well, I guess you could say that.

Bears defensive injuries are concerning. Peterson is a beast, but Bears will stack the box and force Ponder to beat them. Ponder is horrible. Heck, last week he faced a wounded Packer defense, results = 12 for 25 , 119 yards and two back breaking INT's. I just can't trust that guy with $'s. I have the Bears on the ML -150 and the number hasn't budged, even after Urlacher announcement. I just see a high probability of the Bears winning this by 3. Minus 2 1/2 was -130, so hell, might as well go with the moneyline. Time will tell.

I have a gut feeling that the Rams is a trap. Public watched them beat the Niners, but still say Kap and horrible play calling late and missed FG gave that game away. Feel Bills are dangerous at home late in the season. Rams coming off lucky win and OT. Rams 1-3 on the road and not sure how many points that O can put on the board. Jackson and Spiller are solid backs.

I'm not sure I can put money on the Lions, yet. I dislike their coach and feel they lack discipline (to many penalties kill them). Over 75% of money coming in on Packers and it drops from 7 to 6 1/2 ? I get the feeling that the books want all the Pack money they can get. Books are aware that last 3 covers by Pack a tiny 3 1/2, 1 and 1/2 pts.

Did you know that the Lions have actually outgained the Packers in their last 5 meetings?

[meader99]

Detroit outgains Green Bay, but Detroit turns the ball over to much.... 3 turnovers for Stafford last time they met. To many turnvers, to many penalties.... Far to undisciplined to put any money on them. I don't believe the Lions have won in Wisconsin since 1991.

[slacker00]

Detroit outgains Green Bay, but Detroit turns the ball over to much.... 3 turnovers for Stafford last time they met. To many turnvers, to many penalties.... Far to undisciplined to put any money on them. I don't believe the Lions have won in Wisconsin since 1991.

Last time, Stafford had 2 turnovers. Stafford also had 5 TDs and 520 yards.

[PAULYPOKER]

Good chance all 3 will lose........

[2daBank]

Rams really stunk it up last time after ot w sf, not sure if that changes here, they own the div and stuggle vs everyone else, I like under in that gm so don't hate taking more than a fg. But don't trust stl at all here...

Understand minny but no harvin and ponder being ponder gm a pass for me,.,,

I'd pass on pack gm cept it Sunday night so I'm sure ill figure out a play of some kind, doubt I can lay the points but not sure...

Basically 3 teams where I could make decent case for both sides so think it be tough to hit all 3 but I hope u do,,,, gl

[meader99]

Last time, Stafford had 2 turnovers. Stafford also had 5 TDs and 520 yards.

I was speaking of the last game they played a couple weeks ago, not last year when half of Green Bay's team sat out.

[freakydave]

I was speaking of the last game they played a couple weeks ago, not last year when half of Green Bay's team sat out.

I was wondering if he was talking about the flynn game?

[freakydave]

Rams really stunk it up last time after ot w sf, not sure if that changes here, they own the div and stuggle vs everyone else, I like under in that gm so don't hate taking more than a fg. But don't trust stl at all here...

Understand minny but no harvin and ponder being ponder gm a pass for me,.,,

I'd pass on pack gm cept it Sunday night so I'm sure ill figure out a play of some kind, doubt I can lay the points but not sure...

Basically 3 teams where I could make decent case for both sides so think it be tough to hit all 3 but I hope u do,,,, gl

Three teamers are not that easy to hit when you can only make a good case for one side on each.I like STL 's chances to hold buffalo's offence down & see it coming down to a FG .The minny game I couldn't get a ML on from the greek & I thought hey GB should win by a TD the line will probably go up -here's a chance to buy the hook & roll them together.
Come sunday I'll be going a little larger on the Vikings ML because I believe betting public just doesn't seem to realise that the bears better days are behind them at least this season anyway.

[freakydave]

Good chance all 3 will lose........

Sure- hey pauly why don't but a few bucks on CHI BUFF & DET & after sunday come back & brag about how well you did fading me.

[freakydave]

Well, I guess you could say that.

Bears defensive injuries are concerning. Peterson is a beast, but Bears will stack the box and force Ponder to beat them. Ponder is horrible. Heck, last week he faced a wounded Packer defense, results = 12 for 25 , 119 yards and two back breaking INT's. I just can't trust that guy with $'s. I have the Bears on the ML -150 and the number hasn't budged, even after Urlacher announcement. I just see a high probability of the Bears winning this by 3. Minus 2 1/2 was -130, so hell, might as well go with the moneyline. Time will tell.

I have a gut feeling that the Rams is a trap. Public watched them beat the Niners, but still say Kap and horrible play calling late and missed FG gave that game away. Feel Bills are dangerous at home late in the season. Rams coming off lucky win and OT. Rams 1-3 on the road and not sure how many points that O can put on the board. Jackson and Spiller are solid backs.

I'm not sure I can put money on the Lions, yet. I dislike their coach and feel they lack discipline (to many penalties kill them). Over 75% of money coming in on Packers and it drops from 7 to 6 1/2 ? I get the feeling that the books want all the Pack money they can get. Books are aware that last 3 covers by Pack a tiny 3 1/2, 1 and 1/2 pts.

Did you know that the Lions have actually outgained the Packers in their last 5 meetings?

1) bolded -it was also a road game for minny-I think ponder will play better at home-minny is 6-6 with 5 road losses
2)bolded--the bills are 5-7 with 2 home losses already-the run D of STL is good enough to force Buff to beat them with the pass & buffalo's passing attack isn't great.I see this as a fg win for either team.
3)bolded-Clearly had I waited I could of gotten a better number but GB is 7-3 ATS vs DET in their last 10 & yardage thing isn't relevant since GB is 5-0 SU in those games.
Goatmilk made a claim about NO covering 7/10 times with similar stats vs ATL off their last heads up meeting & this match up actually proves the point that those kind of extrapolations are BS.
You've made some good points but I am still pretty confident in both games where I took the points & GB at home well I should be able hedge if the morning goes well.

[easyliving]

love the rams and the vikings. the rams a bit more cuz u cover a fg. not sure about GB though lions are desperate and they are pretty much playing for pride at this point and after blowing the lead at home late against GB an upset wouldn't surprise me here.

[freakydave]

love the rams and the vikings. the rams a bit more cuz u cover a fg. not sure about GB though lions are desperate and they are pretty much playing for pride at this point and after blowing the lead at home late against GB an upset wouldn't surprise me here.

It's not if GB wins it's by how many--GB may not cover but the Division title & playoff berth is now completely under their control-10-0 & 7-3 ats vs det in the last 10 isn't a coincidence.If they lose to a division rival it won't be at home.

[PAULYPOKER]

Sure- hey pauly why don't but a few bucks on CHI BUFF & DET & after sunday come back & brag about how well you did fading me.

that would never hit,

and neither will yours,

that in itself should tell ya about the worth of parlays in general......

You wanted an opinion,

I gave you an honest one

You got offended,

I took ya to school.......

[okbyme123]

2 teaser that are better;

3T SUPER TEASER
[101] BRONCOS (DEN) -½-105 (B+10)
[124] BENGALS (CIN) +7-120 (B+10)
[130] SEAHAWKS (SEA) PK-110 (B+10)
OR
[101] BRONCOS (DEN) -½-105 (B+10)
[117] FALCONS (ATL) +6½EV (B+10)
[130] SEAHAWKS (SEA) PK-110 (B+10)

[slacker00]

I was speaking of the last game they played a couple weeks ago, not last year when half of Green Bay's team sat out.

Half of Green Bay's defense will be out on Sunday.

[freakydave]

that would never hit,

and neither will yours,

that in itself should tell ya about the worth of parlays in general......

You wanted an opinion,

I gave you an honest one

You got offended,

I took ya to school.......

I wasn't offended
I wasn't saying you should bet a parlay -bet each game individually if you go 2-1 ats with Buff , Chi & DET come on back in here & say I" TOLD YOU SO" I won't mind one bit.How exactly did you "school me" ?

FYI I faded you tonight & won with a DD road favourite. So thanks for that

[freakydave]

2 teaser that are better;

3T SUPER TEASER
[101] BRONCOS (DEN) -½-105 (B+10)
[124] BENGALS (CIN) +7-120 (B+10)
[130] SEAHAWKS (SEA) PK-110 (B+10)
OR
[101] BRONCOS (DEN) -½-105 (B+10)
[117] FALCONS (ATL) +6½EV (B+10)
[130] SEAHAWKS (SEA) PK-110 (B+10)

I laid ten points with the Broncos tonight but I like those teasers.Of course if the parlay it'll pay alot better than those teasers.I've noticed that when my teasers win the parlay does as well(more often than not).

[2daBank]

I wasn't offended
I wasn't saying you should bet a parlay -bet each game individually if you go 2-1 ats with Buff , Chi & DET come on back in here & say I" TOLD YOU SO" I won't mind one bit.How exactly did you "school me" ?

FYI I faded you tonight & won with a DD road favourite. So thanks for that

lol...pauly good dude but he kinda had that coming.... dave i think i have a few decent totals you should consider mixing up the teams you like with,,couple guys been doing that in my thread and doing pretty well (cept my sides were better than totals last week)..stop by thread and post thoughts on gms..

[PAULYPOKER]

I wasn't offended
I wasn't saying you should bet a parlay -bet each game individually if you go 2-1 ats with Buff , Chi & DET come on back in here & say I" TOLD YOU SO" I won't mind one bit.How exactly did you "school me" ?

FYI I faded you tonight & won with a DD road favourite. So thanks for that

Yay!,

you faded me,

hindsight,

why don't ya start fading me on all my plays pre-game?

As for me, the only thing you'll ever catch me fading is the public................

[2daBank]

Yay!,

you faded me,

hindsight,

why don't ya start fading me on all my plays pre-game?

As for me, the only thing you'll ever catch me fading is the public................

prob wouldnt be real wise..

pauly low scoring gm in pit? they gotta know they can play conservative and beat sd with their defense and run gm, just letting ben make few 3rd down plays (i figure 20 throws max), even if rivers turns it over 3/4 times then i just think it curb stomping like 31-7 or something but more likely seems like a gm id image you would lean sd and the points and that cause it be more like 21-13/ 17/10 or some bs... or am i wrong? would yo lay these points with pit?

[PAULYPOKER]

probably under 41.5

I look for Pitt to possibly score on some points off of Defensive turnovers..........

31-10 type of game......

You are the totals king not me,

I only like to play totals when they have RLM along with making the top 10 play list,

I never saw a loss yet,

but they rarely meet this criteria......

[2daBank]

probably under 41.5

I look for Pitt to possibly score on some points off of Defensive turnovers..........

31-10 type of game......

You are the totals king not me,

I only like to play totals when they have RLM along with making the top 10 play list,

I never saw a loss yet,

but they rarely meet this criteria......

so you like steelers to cover? i agree there real good chance bunch of turnovers leading to points, but not sure there not just as good a chance sd d keeps them around in a low scoring gm where rivers doesnt fukk up till late,,either scenario under seems decent enough to me...i dunno tho, this prob be popular for a under and im already on "squarest" over i could find just cause i knew id beat a key number (possibly 2) with over 46.5 in phi/tb..

[PAULYPOKER]

so you like steelers to cover? .

Yes I hope so but not playing them........

Here is some Totals trends

NFL(111) TENNESSEE @ (112) INDIANAPOLIS | 12/09/2012 - 1:00 PMPlay UNDERINDIANAPOLIS on the total in All games versus division opponents The record is 0 Overs and 9 Unders for the last two seasons (+9.00 units)

NFL(119) PHILADELPHIA @ (120) TAMPA BAY | 12/09/2012 - 1:00 PMPlay OVERTAMPA BAY on the total in All games when playing against a team with a losing record The record is 9 Overs and 0 Unders for the last two seasons (+9.00 units)

NFL(131) DETROIT @ (132) GREEN BAY | 12/09/2012 - 8:25 PMPlay OVERDETROIT on the total in Road games when playing with 6 or less days rest The record is 9 Overs and 0 Unders for the last two seasons (+9.00 units)

NFL(133) HOUSTON @ (134) NEW ENGLAND | 12/10/2012 - 8:35 PMPlay OVERNEW ENGLAND on the total in Home games against conference opponents The record is 16 Overs and 3 Unders for the last three seasons (+12.70 units)

NFL(113) NY JETS @ (114) JACKSONVILLE | 12/09/2012 - 1:00 PMPlay OVERNY JETS on the total in Road games when playing with 6 or less days rest The record is 16 Overs and 3 Unders for the last three seasons (+12.70 units)

NFL(133) HOUSTON @ (134) NEW ENGLAND | 12/10/2012 - 8:35 PMPlay OVERNEW ENGLAND on the total in All games in all games The record is 35 Overs and 13 Unders for the last three seasons (+20.70 units)

NFL(107) KANSAS CITY @ (108) CLEVELAND | 12/09/2012 - 1:00 PMPlay UNDERCLEVELAND on the total in All games in December games The record is 0 Overs and 8 Unders for the last three seasons (+8.00 units)

NFL(125) MIAMI @ (126) SAN FRANCISCO | 12/09/2012 - 4:05 PMPlay UNDERSAN FRANCISCO on the first half total in All games as a favorite of 3.5 to 9.5 points vs. the first half line The record is 2 Overs and 12 Unders for the last two seasons (+9.80 units)

NFL(107) KANSAS CITY @ (108) CLEVELAND | 12/09/2012 - 1:00 PMPlay UNDERCLEVELAND on the total in All games in games played on a grass field The record is 4 Overs and 16 Unders for the last two seasons (+11.60 units)

NFL(121) ST LOUIS @ (122) BUFFALO | 12/09/2012 - 1:00 PMPlay OVERST LOUIS on the first half total in All games after 2 or more consecutive wins The record is 43 Overs and 17 Unders since 1992 (+24.30 units)