[crustyme]

some of the largest losses for vegas has occured in football.

lost $2.6 million here.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=3232876

[brooks85]

funny LB made this thread but I guess you learned your lesson from last year's nfl season.

I look forward to all your prediction's again haha

[ttrace35]

Lakerboy is right

Unless your Billy fukkin Walters you ain't making money on the NFL.

Lines are too sharp. NFL is a fukkin cash cow for sportsbook. Think about it

Everybody must be different. I am +money every year betting nfl.

[spankie]

Everybody must be different. I am +money every year betting nfl.

Football is where the money is made.

[vyomguy]

Everybody must be different. I am +money every year betting nfl.

Do that over 5 year period and come back.

You can have 1 or 2 profitable seasons, but tough to beat NFL every year. But you can beat MLB easily every year.

[ngates815]

I also seem to look forward to NFL. I may make money some weeks, lose the next......But I'm pretty sure last year I was up a few grand.

This also coming from a guy who doesn't like to bet MLB. So yes I'm excited, and yes I may lose the first week, but 1-2 weeks losing doesn't mean I go bust.

[ngates815]

Do that over 5 year period and come back.

You can have 1 or 2 profitable seasons, but tough to beat NFL every year. But you can beat MLB easily every year.

So you make 25-30K in MLB every year?

Why haven't you gone tout? I'd pay for someone to make my picks that guarantee to make money.

[spankie]

Do that over 5 year period and come back.

You can have 1 or 2 profitable seasons, but tough to beat NFL every year. But you can beat MLB easily every year.

Ok i'm back.

[sneakerhead]

Football is exciting, baseball is not

[ttrace35]

Do that over 5 year period and come back.

You can have 1 or 2 profitable seasons, but tough to beat NFL every year. But you can beat MLB easily every year.

I can honestly only think of 1 bad season, inthe past 7 or 8. Never kept stats.

[ngates815]

I can honestly only think of 1 bad season, inthe past 7 or 8. Never kept stats.

Pay no mind to Vyomguy....Guy should have won 74K betting yesterday, but only won 24K. And the other day he lost a potential 100K.

He's an idiot.

About as cool as fightingwarrior with his fibs.

[wantitall4moi]

So you make 25-30K in MLB every year?

Why haven't you gone tout? I'd pay for someone to make my picks that guarantee to make money.

Baseball is easy I dont even bet for a living anymore and made almost 20K already this season.

Going tout would be OK, but you know what people dont want advise or even winners, they want you to agree with them.

You go tout the first hurdle you have to cross is rewiring all the brain dead degenerate ***** out there who grew up on ESPN and think they know everything about all sports because they see a few highlights or listen to a bunch of washed up has beens who really dont know shit about the sports theyre talking about.

Then you have to give them games they want to bet, not what ones are going to make them money but games theylike with teams they like. Then you give them a game, they dont like your side they either dont bet it or bet the other side. if they win theyre smarter than you are, if they dont bet and it does win that is another game they pissed away.

The the other thing is if they follow you to the letter and you do somehow make them money, they just piss it away on games you didnt give them or games they like.

So it isnt about money with most people it is about the action. that is why football is a suckers game. It gets all the suckers in because a lot of guys watch it, it is hyped to the moon and it is a degenerates best friend.

Here is a test for everyone who 'loves' football. Go a Sunday or two without betting any of the games, then tally up how many minutes you watch. Unless you have a home team that is. But even if you have a home team and they start out 0-3 or 1-4 then tell me how much you watch.

Football is about hope and optimism. Shit teasms start out every season thinking they have a chance, everyone starts 0-0. But after 4 or 5 weeks the dream is shattered and that is it.

Same as with betting it. Most peope lose their asses, but there is always the hope and dream you will win someday. and when you do it is exactly what books like because then you win you think you can win more.

thats why football is a suckers game. The season is short, the vig is unreal, the spread is more than an equalizer and the scoring system makes it a very difficult game to overcome mistakes. Has nothing to do with 'sharp' lines or that stupidity. The ball takes funny bounces and some teams capitalize and some dont. it isnt like hoops where fouls shots at the end can get you in the money or over a total that had no prayer of coming in. Sure it is fun to do, but definitely not the sport to rely on to make money. If you do great. But more often than not you tread water. Especially if you dont bet MLs or a parlay or two along the way.

Basically the best formula for betting football is look for dogs and bet the ML. If you like a small fav then take the spread. But anything over 6 isnt worth betting. So that means a very small amount of chances to bet, and you have to be both good and lucky to show a profit. if you bet 40 games a season that isnt a lot of room for error, unless you get a few big dogs to cash for you, and even then if youre betting with a straightforward amount it isnt going to get you rich. Not like baseball can where you have 2500 games to bet. Football has 256 so a tenth. Now of course guys have started betting halves, and quarters and a lot of other gimmick bets, but usually those carry even more juice and a bad bounce or some other unforeseen thing can make a huge difference. Of course those things go both ways, the thing is I dont want to spend -130 or more on a chance they dont happen to me.

[ttrace35]

I think some guys are just better at some sports than others. I have such a fukkin confidence with nfl. I feel like I'm gonna win $1000+ every sunday.

[Tech N9ne]

Everybody must be different. I am +money every year betting nfl.

I'm not doubting you tracer but how about starting a season long NFL thread w/ your picks so we can see?

[linedrivr]

The majority can't make money betting on the NFL because they have no discipline. If a game is on tv, most need money on it because they are watching it. Not because it was a advantageous line.

Most have no bankroll management skills either. They hit a losing streak and start chasing because they are due until the balance is zero. A sportsbooks dream player and sadly, it's 95% of their clientele.

[vyomguy]

So you make 25-30K in MLB every year? Why haven't you gone tout? I'd pay for someone to make my picks that guarantee to make money.

I make more than 30k per year...why would i go tout if i am making money?...touts are losers who scam people for money. People who pay for touts are the biggest idiots.

Pay no mind to Vyomguy....Guy should have won 74K betting yesterday, but only won 24K. And the other day he lost a potential 100K. He's an idiot. About as cool as fightingwarrior with his fibs.

You have no idea about me...I can post screen shots to prove all my bets. SBR Lou can verify my bets if you want at bookmaker . You are idiot who has no clue. All you do is troll in each thread. Werent you the idiot who had sent me a pm long time back asking for my picks .

Why do I even bother helping some of the idiots here...go on boys..bet NFL please...bet all of your money on NFL...good luck

[MoneyLineDawg]

I don't get the fact that some people can go "bust" or "lose their roll" and not be able to bet for the rest of the season.....unless they are unemployed.....

I bet throughout the year through a local and we pay up either way every couple weeks......The amount is never more than my weekly income paying out and might only be bigger for me if I get extremely hot and/or hit a big longshot parlay......Do people simply bet way too much and "lose their roll". I really don't understand it......

[ngates815]

I make more than 30k per year...why would i go tout if i making money?...touts are losers who scam people for money. People who pay for touts are the biggest idiots. You have no idea about me...I can post screen shots to prove all my bets. SBR Lou can verify my bets if you want at Bookmaker . You are idiot who has no clue. All you do is troll in each thread. Werent you the idiot who had sent me a pm long time back asking for my picks . Why do I even bother helping some of the idiots here...go on boys..bet NFL please...bet all of your money on NFL...good luck

LOL...Never seen you post before, let alone post picks.

Just seen you running your mouth in here, and then saw a couple posts from yesterday.

You said in 2 different threads that you went 5-1.
Yet admitted to losing on Yanks RL and Cubs -1.5. So you claim 5-1 in 2 different threads, but you posted losing both the Cubs/Yanks RL. If my math is correct that is 2 losses.

You also said you were on the Yanks RL and Cubs RL...yes, you won 24K betting huge on the Yankees ML @ -190....ok boss.

still laughing about me Pm'ing you for picks....I'd love for you to pm me the Phillies and Texas today. Thanks for the picks. Idiot.

[vyomguy]

LOL...Never seen you post before, let alone post picks. Just seen you running your mouth in here, and then saw a couple posts from yesterday. You said in 2 different threads that you went 5-1. Yet admitted to losing on Yanks RL and Cubs -1.5. So you claim 5-1 in 2 different threads, but you posted losing both the Cubs/Yanks RL. If my math is correct that is 2 losses. You also said you were on the Yanks RL and Cubs RL...yes, you won 24K betting huge on the Yankees ML @ -190....ok boss. still laughing about me Pm'ing you for picks....I'd love for you to pm me the Phillies and Texas today. Thanks for the picks. Idiot.

First of all thanks for stalking me...you seem to enjoy stalking.

Second of all, yankees rl and cubs rl were part of a win-reverse bet including several other bets....if you had done your stalking correctly you would have known.

I posted 5-1 coz they were the straight bets...If I had to include all my bets in parlays, win-reverse, there would be around 20 picks. I just post the record of straight bets only.

Also, I never said i won 24k off of yankees ml idiot..again you stalking skills are weak like you. I said all my other bets in win-reverse won which gave me 24k payout....yankees rl and cubs rl were the ones which lost...go read it again you dumb ass.

And no, I dont take chalk all the time idiot...70% of my bets are underdogs. Infact most of the picks I have posted here at sbr have been underdogs...again your stalking skills are poor like you.

[ngates815]

First of all thanks for stalking me...you seem to enjoy stalking. Second of all, yankees rl and cubs rl were part of a win-reverse bet including several other bets....if you had done your stalking correctly you would have known. I posted 5-1 coz they were the straight bets...If I had to include all my bets in parlays, win-reverse, there would be around 20 picks. I just post the record of straight bets only. Also, I never said i won 24k off of yankees ml idiot..again you stalking skills are weak like you. I said all my other bets in win-reverse won which gave me 24k payout....yankees rl and cubs rl were the ones which lost...go read it again you dumb ass. And no, I dont take chalk all the time idiot...70% of my bets are underdogs. Infact most of the picks I have posted here at sbr have been underdogs...again your stalking skills are poor like you.

lol stalking.

Good one vyomguy.

A guy telling the truth wouldn't be so defensive.

Vyomguy, do you remember when I sent you a PM asking for your picks? Vyomguy, how are my stalking skills? Pretty accurate? How long do you think I stalked you for? 1 minute (to click vew posts by you and read 2 of yesterdys posts) 20 minutes 2 hours or 8 hours?

you're too funny.

Most of your picks are underdogs...Cards(-130) Yanks(-190) Cubs(+120) were your posted picks. I like to bet -190 just like you.

[vyomguy]

Cards(-130) Yanks(-190) Cubs(+120) were your posted picks. I like to bet -190 just like you.

LOL...you look at my 3 recent bets and call it chalk...well atleast I was hoping you would get even that right considering I posted cubs -1.5 +165, baltimore +130, jays +150....again your reading comprehension is terrible as well. You choose to focus on something particular without getting all of your facts right.

I will bury you anytime you decide to talk to me as all your points have flaws in them.

Talking about posting picks...how about you start posting picks instead of criticizing others by trolling in all threads. How about that for an idea?

[ngates815]

Like I said, I looked at a few posts from yesterday and only saw Cards Yanks and Cubs.

And I obviously already mentioned the Cubs/Yanks RL's.


Talking about posting picks, I just read a few threads on peoples thoughts...I don't troll peoples Picks threads. I normally don't look in them. So again.....LOL

Funny funny guy.

You remember when I asked you for your picks? LOL

[ngates815]

LOL...you look at my 3 recent bets and call it chalk...well atleast I was hoping you would get even that right considering I posted cubs -1.5 +165, baltimore +130, jays +150....again your reading comprehension is terrible as well. You choose to focus on something particular without getting all of your facts right. I will bury you anytime you decide to talk to me as all your points have flaws in them. Talking about posting picks...how about you start posting picks instead of criticizing others by trolling in all threads. How about that for an idea?

Just stalked for 2 more minutes....Where were those plays posted, because you only had about 10 posts yesterday which takes a minute to look at, and I already had mentioned the ones I saw, which included 2 losers. Now you post up 2 other plays which you were on and those both lost as well....So you said you were 5-1, but now you've admitted to 4 losers, which only 1 of them counted for some reason?


My stalking skills aren't that great....please lead the way to show me those picks on Toronto(+150? impressive line you got there) and Baltimore.

[ttrace35]

I'm not doubting you tracer but how about starting a season long NFL thread w/ your picks so we can see?

I deff will this year.

[wantitall4moi]

not to get in the middle of an e tough guy fight but how does one make 40K off book maker betting baseball with 5K limits?

Unless it is one of those 'special' customer perks where you can phone in and make any size wager you want.

[FindTheLock]

u can have your limits raised on bookmaker. It depends on how much you send over to them. They have guys betting big money over there.

[vyomguy]

Just stalked for 2 more minutes....Where were those plays posted, because you only had about 10 posts yesterday which takes a minute to look at, and I already had mentioned the ones I saw, which included 2 losers. Now you post up 2 other plays which you were on and those both lost as well....So you said you were 5-1, but now you've admitted to 4 losers, which only 1 of them counted for some reason? My stalking skills aren't that great....please lead the way to show me those picks on Toronto(+150? impressive line you got there) and Baltimore.

Again your reading comprehension is bad and you forget what I mentioned in my previous comment. Baltimore and jays picks were posted before yesterday to show I dont pick just big favs. If your stalking skills are as good as you think, you should be able to find them

Look I am done arguing with you...there are better things to do than arguing with a stalker online in the morning. Some people like me actually have jobs...I am not interested in the popularity contest here. Thats why I keep low key here. The books know how much money I have made...I dont have to prove to anybody here..as its a waste of my time. I have to realize I am speaking to people who almost never cash out..so obviously they are skeptical of other people's big wins.

I just came to this thread to advice people on betting on NFL. If people are so interested in going broke, then I cant help them. You can force the donkey to the river...but you cant force it to drink the water .

Less than 5% of the people make money in NFL consistently over long term. tracer and moneylinedawg seems to be few of them. Good luck either way.

[ngates815]

Again your reading comprehension is bad and you forget what I mentioned in my previous comment. Baltimore and jays picks were posted before yesterday to show I dont pick just big favs. If your stalking skills are as good as you think, you should be able to find them Look I am done arguing with you...there are better things to do than arguing with a stalker online in the morning. Some people like me actually have jobs...I am not interested in the popularity contest here. Thats why I keep low key here. The books know how much money I have made...I dont have to prove to anybody here..as its a waste of my time. I have to realize I am speaking to people who almost never cash out..so obviously they are skeptical of other people's big wins. I just came to this thread to advice people on betting on NFL. If people are so interested in going broke, then I cant help them. You can force the donkey to the river...but you cant force it to drink the water . Less than 5% of the people make money in NFL consistently over long term. tracer and moneylinedawg seems to be few of them. Good luck either way.

[Inkwell77]

Baseball is about as brutal of a sport as you can get.

No rhyme or reason. The books put out a dime line and still make some money. Would not happen in NHL/NFL/NBA/Soccer.

Way too inconsistent for any sane gambler to love. Ever wonder Dr. Bob and many of the other most respected cappers don't bet MLB?

[Vegas_bond]

Because the majority of people who bet, do not depend on gambling as an income. The entertainment value of a sport can reel in bettors also.

Have fun when you are betting fellas. If you want to rake in a true income get an education, and venture into a professional career where you can gqain job security, insurance planws, and pention funds.

The majority of gamblers think this way. And I thank God for that.

[JR007]

nfl is the toughest to beat, just do some research.... 47% of the books profits last 2 years in vegas came from NFL,

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

I've been making money in the NFL year in and year out. You guys are making it seem like its impossible to win money betting NFL whats up with that? No confidence in yourself.

[7secondsOrLess]

just because you lose a lot and have to try to make it back with 10000+ units of air on the jets doesnt mean everyone else does. i like how this idiot tries to act like hes cool and better than everyone else with posts like these when he doesnt even win

[twelvejewelz]

NFL is by far the most profitable sport that i bet and i do pretty damn good in basketball. MLB im not so good, to each is own i guess.

[MoneyLineDawg]

NFL is easier to win for me (and I suspect others on here) because it is the sport I follow and research the most BY FAR.....I rewatch games on NFL Network throughout the week and watch as many games as possible, as well as browse all different team message boards, etc

It is the sharpest by Vegas, but there are always games that you should stay away from, and games that have a lot of value......Like any other sport, you need to be disciplined and pick out the valuable plays each week

I feel that a large amount of casual and "square" bettors are the guys betting on NFL each week.....This is how Vegas makes all the money they do. Not EVERYONE loses each year, just the majority do.....For example, most of my friends that aren't really bettors will usually throw a few bets each week on NFL games but not any other sport......and almost all of them are season losers