[brahmabull117]

i have been doing this for a long time, it doesn't succeed. you might go 2 in a row or 3 in 4 days, but there is always an upset. like your 5 team today, bulls coulda easily gone down. ny scraped past but they were on the verge of losing. you just got lucky. post your plays, start a parlay ml thread and see how many units u come out with.

do me a favor and look at the last 14 days of basketball...there is maybe 1 or 2 legitimate upsets that entire huge time period

you can say the bulls got lucky today, but in reality it was just a good team pulling out a win. Good teams do that ALL the time (you also saw it with the knicks)

[themoneyshot978]

no play for today for me


sixers have won 4 straight at home, portland and orlando is a toss up...dallas is really the only sure thing

76ers beat Cle, NJ, Char, Port all of which have poor road records, and a winning percentage of under .500
Still think celtics is the right pick here

[eddie0vedder]

do me a favor and look at the last 14 days of basketball...there is maybe 1 or 2 legitimate upsets that entire huge time period you can say the bulls got lucky today, but in reality it was just a good team pulling out a win. Good teams do that ALL the time (you also saw it with the knicks)

14 huge days are u serious? you can find shitloads of trends that last 2 weeks that would make mega $, this does not work in the long run. like i said post your plays here, throw in your + unit count for the last 2 days and lets see how u go.

[brahmabull117]

14 huge days are u serious? you can find shitloads of trends that last 2 weeks that would make mega $, this does not work in the long run. like i said post your plays here, throw in your + unit count for the last 2 days and lets see how u go.

I already told you I looked up the road record of bad teams last year...most of them were something like 2-27 against good teams on the road last year

it's pretty much the same thing this year. Let's examine a few of these teams


LA Clippers - 0-10 on the road
Minnesota Timberwolves - 1-10 on the road with the only victory being a close win against Sacramento (another awful team)
Sacramento - 2-6 on the road with the only wins being at minnesota and cleveland
Washington - 0-12 on the road
Nets - 2-12 on the road
philly - 1-10 on the road

that's 5 teams, who between all of them, don't have a single decent road win all season long. Think about all the money you could have made parlaying their road games

[dom75]

If you can find a good system, and put your mind to work, you can make some good money doing this and it isn't just by luck. You have to look at the numbers, and be smart about this I feel. I have been playing around with staragies and numbers this week and I might be on to something myself. My record for this week is:
sunday went 8-0 in nba, won a 8 team parlay ( only betted a buck to win $20 ) since I am still playing around with this system.
monday, went 6-1 ( lost that one as I failed to take into consideration Orlando had been sick all weekend ) so that loss is my own stupidity.
tuesday I went 5 - 2 ....
wednesday, I kinda stayed away from NBA and tried NCAAB and went 10-1

I am still tweeking this ML parlay system, but I feel I am close to getting the bugs worked out to where I can have a few good parlays a week.

[brahmabull117]

monday, went 6-1 ( lost that one as I failed to take into consideration Orlando had been sick all weekend ) so that loss is my own stupidity

you guys gotta stay away from teams with good road records. Atlanta is 8-3 on the road this season and has shown the ability to beat anybody on the road


similar sort of situation with oklahoma city facing boston earlier in the year...yea they were without durant but that team is still like 8-4 on the road and they still beat boston in the game

[dom75]

Actually I guess I shoulda played NBA yesterday as looking over yesterdays results I would have went 8-0.

[macoeric]

Bulls, Hornets, Knicks, Spurs, and Lakers were +260 today.

bulls and lakers could have both lost easily

[themoneyshot978]

Actually I guess I shoulda played NBA yesterday as looking over yesterdays results I would have went 8-0.

where have you been posting your picks?

[brahmabull117]

bulls and lakers could have both lost easily

I actually played the celtics (who won by 17 points), not the lakers. That was a mistake on his part (look at my original post)


but yes I'm shocked at how close the bulls game was, but close games happen and the good teams will win them 80-90% of the time playing these awful teams

[lyc16]

yea. this is something definitely to take into mind...

[eddie0vedder]

I already told you I looked up the road record of bad teams last year...most of them were something like 2-27 against good teams on the road last year

it's pretty much the same thing this year. Let's examine a few of these teams


LA Clippers - 0-10 on the road
Minnesota Timberwolves - 1-10 on the road with the only victory being a close win against Sacramento (another awful team)
Sacramento - 2-6 on the road with the only wins being at minnesota and cleveland
Washington - 0-12 on the road
Nets - 2-12 on the road
philly - 1-10 on the road
that's 5 teams, who between all of them, don't have a single decent road win all season long. Think about all the money you could have made parlaying their road
games

I know how bad these teams records are and I have come up with a pretty good sytem too that is 75% so far. But will it last I doubt it, by the way only on of these teams is involved
in your 5 team parlay

[homerbush]

Personally I would rather take 3 slight underdog ML's and bet a parlay. I only have to be successful 1 out of every 25-35 times to break even and if you do your research it is not hard to find small underdogs capable of winning.

[brahmabull117]

Personally I would rather take 3 slight underdog ML's and bet a parlay. I only have to be successful 1 out of every 25-35 times to break even and if you do your research it is not hard to find small underdogs capable of winning.

easy money>>>>>>>worrying about underdogs winning

[MrShrink]

Brahma and Jive... You guys are DEAD ON with this one.

Anybody who's been losing money overall on the NBA this year, pay attention to the stuff in this thread. There really is no excuse if you keep this theory in practice. I'll prove it to you by showing you how I commonly apply what Brahma and Jive have already explained to the shaping of my sheet for the evening. I put $20 on bodog last Monday (less than 2 weeks ago) and, using this method, my balance is now up to $91.30. I never went more than about $10 below that initial $20 when I had my picks set, so you could consider this about an 8x rollover in about 10 days.

To those of you that feel that you just don't get enough odds on these picks, you may want to consider teasing the spread. It is JUST TOO DIFFICULT to grow a bankroll on purely picking spreads. Totally unreasonable, imo... Let me just show you what I mean. I more than doubled my overall stake last night.

My winning plays last night:


chi-2.5, nyk-1.5, noh -5 $2.00/returned $5.00

mia-1, mem+4, okc/min under217 $1.60/10.25

noh-5, sas-5.5, mem+9 $4.00/10.00

nyk+1, sas-2.5, mem+12 $3.80/7.25

chi-2.5, bos-2, nyk-2, mem+9 $7.50/22.50

mem+4, under 218 $2.55/9.10

nyk-2, noh-5, sas-5.5 $3.00/7.50

chi, nyk, noh $2.45/5.01


My losers:

chi-2.5, nyk-1.5, bos-2, den/bos under208, mia/uta under195 $1.70/(7.65)

nyk-7, uta+2, mem+4 $1.55/(10.40)

chi, bos, nyk, noh, okc, lal, lal/lac over205 $1.00/(8.46)

first-halfers: nyk-4, mia-0.5, mem/pho under 109.5 $1.00/(7.00)



total stake: $32.15

total return: $76.61



Obviously, last night was my biggest night over the past 2 weeks with my balance starting at about $46.00 and ending at $91.30. I've played the nba every single night in a similar fashion since I deposited on Monday of last week. It's true that on the majority of nights i've gained or lost minimally (+/- $0.00-4.00). But I've only had one BAD night, which was this past Friday when i think i lost about the entire $20 i had out that night (think that was when I went heavy on the spurs@lac... had them on too many of my tix).

How many of you had a bad night last night PURELY because the "lock" of chi-7 didn't cover? nyk-7?

Sorry for such a long post, but seriously... what Brahma and Jive are giving you is the gospel on how to grow a roll like a real player... not just hit it big on some 15-pt 4-team parlay. When you have ONE really good night a week and NO bad ones, you're gonna grow. It's just that simple.

[brahmabull117]

Brahma and Jive... You guys are DEAD ON with this one. Anybody who's been losing money overall on the NBA this year, pay attention to the stuff in this thread. There really is no excuse if you keep this theory in practice. I'll prove it to you by showing you how I commonly apply what Brahma and Jive have already explained to the shaping of my sheet for the evening. I put $20 on bodog last Monday (less than 2 weeks ago) and, using this method, my balance is now up to $91.30. I never went more than about $10 below that initial $20 when I had my picks set, so you could consider this about an 8x rollover in about 10 days. To those of you that feel that you just don't get enough odds on these picks, you may want to consider teasing the spread. It is JUST TOO DIFFICULT to grow a bankroll on purely picking spreads. Totally unreasonable, imo... Let me just show you what I mean. I more than doubled my overall stake last night. My winning plays last night: chi-2.5, nyk-1.5, noh -5 $2.00/returned $5.00 mia-1, mem+4, okc/min under217 $1.60/10.25 noh-5, sas-5.5, mem+9 $4.00/10.00 nyk+1, sas-2.5, mem+12 $3.80/7.25 chi-2.5, bos-2, nyk-2, mem+9 $7.50/22.50 mem+4, under 218 $2.55/9.10 nyk-2, noh-5, sas-5.5 $3.00/7.50 chi, nyk, noh $2.45/5.01 My losers: chi-2.5, nyk-1.5, bos-2, den/bos under208, mia/uta under195 $1.70/(7.65) nyk-7, uta+2, mem+4 $1.55/(10.40) chi, bos, nyk, noh, okc, lal, lal/lac over205 $1.00/(8.46) first-halfers: nyk-4, mia-0.5, mem/pho under 109.5 $1.00/(7.00) total stake: $32.15 total return: $76.61 Obviously, last night was my biggest night over the past 2 weeks with my balance starting at about $46.00 and ending at $91.30. I've played the nba every single night in a similar fashion since I deposited on Monday of last week. It's true that on the majority of nights i've gained or lost minimally (+/- $0.00-4.00). But I've only had one BAD night, which was this past Friday when i think i lost about the entire $20 i had out that night (think that was when I went heavy on the spurs@lac... had them on too many of my tix). How many of you had a bad night last night PURELY because the "lock" of chi-7 didn't cover? nyk-7? Sorry for such a long post, but seriously... what Brahma and Jive are giving you is the gospel on how to grow a roll like a real player... not just hit it big on some 15-pt 4-team parlay. When you have ONE really good night a week and NO bad ones, you're gonna grow. It's just that simple.

here is the thing that people don't realize


moneylines are an absolutely phenomenal value most of the time. When you get a really bad road team that is struggling facing a good home team, the real odds of seeing a loss there is about 1 in 10...yet most of the time the moneyline is about -270 or maybe -330. Look at the cleveland vs philly game a few days ago, cleveland had lost 5 straight on the road and philly had won 4 straight at home, the chance of a loss there is maybe 10% and the moneyline was about - 270

the problem is that people want all the money all at one time so they just don't comprehend how great of a value it is to have a -330 line on a team that has about a 90% chance of winning

what you gotta do is find these scenarios where the possibility of a loss is very very very small and parlay 3-5 games together. If you do that, you will win about 70-80% of your parlays, all of which are at fantastic value

the nba is a brutal league to handicap in terms of spreads and totals simply because of the unpredictability of the game...but in terms of just straight up winners, it is by FAR the easiest sport in the world to handicap. I would say about 90% of the games you see, the expected teams wins it

[Baller85]

Thanks for the heads up. Tonight I think Orlando over Portland, Dallas over New Jersey, and Boston over Philly. They will all win.

[Pride]

I like how a thread is started on this when I have been doing it for a while now. I can add to the discussion
This was my card last night.

$129.37 to win $175.57

Win12/8/10 7:05pm NBA Basketball 501 Chicago Bulls -280* vs Cleveland Cavaliers
Win12/8/10 8:05pm NBA Basketball 508 New Orleans Hornets -475* vs Detroit Pistons
Win12/8/10 10:05pm NHL Hockey 60 Vancouver Canucks -230* vs Anaheim Ducks


$130.00 to win $121.70

Win12/8/10 8:05pm NBA Basketball 508 New Orleans Hornets -475* vs Detroit Pistons
Win12/8/10 8:35pm NBA Basketball 513 Golden State Warriors +21 -775* vs San Antonio Spurs
Win12/8/10 7:05pm NHL Hockey 52 Pittsburgh Penguins -240* vs Toronto Maple Leafs

so far I have found that buying say ten points on the spread is also great. you really have to be careful when buying points on totals though because that can easily screw you over.

[brahmabull117]

I like how a thread is started on this when I have been doing it for a while now. I can add to the discussion
This was my card last night.

$129.37 to win $175.57

Win12/8/10 7:05pm NBA Basketball 501 Chicago Bulls -280* vs Cleveland Cavaliers
Win12/8/10 8:05pm NBA Basketball 508 New Orleans Hornets -475* vs Detroit Pistons
Win12/8/10 10:05pm NHL Hockey 60 Vancouver Canucks -230* vs Anaheim Ducks


$130.00 to win $121.70

Win12/8/10 8:05pm NBA Basketball 508 New Orleans Hornets -475* vs Detroit Pistons
Win12/8/10 8:35pm NBA Basketball 513 Golden State Warriors +21 -775* vs San Antonio Spurs
Win12/8/10 7:05pm NHL Hockey 52 Pittsburgh Penguins -240* vs Toronto Maple Leafs

so far I have found that buying say ten points on the spread is also great. you really have to be careful when buying points on totals though because that can easily screw you over.

oh boy, you were really riding on dangerous territory there with that golden state pick

the spurs have blown out golden state by 25-30+ points many a times in the past

[Pride]

i felt confident enough to make the play.

[brahmabull117]

i felt confident enough to make the play.

even when Golden state just lost to the spurs by 20 points in golden state??

[Pride]

if you are asking me why i made the play out of pure curiosity then we can continue but if you are questioning a play that won then we are done talking.

[brahmabull117]

if you are asking me why i made the play out of pure curiosity then we can continue but if you are questioning a play that won then we are done talking.

more about how shocked I am at your balls to take that play

[Pride]

if you don't mind. i will start to post my parlays in here if that is cool.

$123.98 to win $85.36
Pending4 Team Parlay

Win12/9/10 8:20pm NFL Football 102 Tennessee Titans +14½ -735* vs Indianapolis Colts
Win12/9/10 8:35pm NBA Basketball 704 Dallas Mavericks -1 -700* vs New Jersey Nets
Pending12/9/10 10:35pm NBA Basketball 705 Orlando Magic/Portland Trailblazers Over 173½ -700*
Win12/9/10 7:00pm College Basketball 707 Kent State +24 -725* vs Florida



$200.00 to win $217.07


Win12/9/10 8:20pm NFL Football 101 Indianapolis Colts -172* vs Tennessee Titans
Win12/9/10 8:20pm NFL Football 101 Indianapolis Colts/Tennessee Titans Over 33½ -650*
Win12/9/10 8:35pm NBA Basketball 704 Dallas Mavericks -1 -700* vs New Jersey Nets


LOST -100

Win12/9/10 8:35pm NBA Basketball 703 New Jersey Nets +21 -850* vs Dallas Mavericks
Win12/8/10 10:35pm NBA Basketball 521 Los Angeles Lakers 2nd Half -280* vs Los Angeles Clippers
Win12/9/10 7:00pm College Basketball 707 Kent State +23½ -725* vs Florida
Loss12/9/10 7:05pm NHL Hockey 8 Washington Capitals -255* vs Florida Panthers




I decided to give the caps one more shot and I have now moved them to my blacklist for good reason. They **** me every time I go near them. I posted the losing play cause it seems stupid to leave it out since I am posting these after the fact.

[Pride]

i have a chance for a 10 point middle oppurtunity with the u93 at halftime. I parlayed it with the Heat -2 and Michigan - 1.5.

let's see how it goes.

[Pride]

come on, 45 point quarter please!

[Gtawatson]

NBA moneylines for the home teams are definitely the easiest way to make money on this site. Betting on the spread for football and basketball I always turn my 6 to about 20 then lost it. Since I started betting home favorites I am now up to 250....Always take the celtics at home

[Pride]

13 more points plz!

[kostasgr]

By Far the Best Way to Bet,OR by far the best way to ..Loose?

[Pride]

$123.98 to win $85.36
Pending4 Team Parlay

Win12/9/10 8:20pm NFL Football 102 Tennessee Titans +14½ -735* vs Indianapolis Colts
Win12/9/10 8:35pm NBA Basketball 704 Dallas Mavericks -1 -700* vs New Jersey Nets
Pending12/9/10 10:35pm NBA Basketball 705 Orlando Magic/Portland Trailblazers Over 173½ -700*
Win12/9/10 7:00pm College Basketball 707 Kent State +24 -725* vs Florida

Cash it and cash the middle oppurtunity + the first leg of my next parlay.

[edragonl]

its actually worth looking into

[gtboy]

also good is 3 team 8 pt teaser. especially nba. nice winning %tage

[jolmscheid]

Hey Pride...where can you buy so many points and parlay them??

[jolmscheid]

I also think that betting HOME teams for the parlays are much safer than betting the away teams....there's just something about being at home and squeezing out those close wins...

[jolmscheid]

Also, what do you guys think about Round Robin parlays? Worth it or no