1. 02-21-10 12:42 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by williams22 View Post
    It's Hickson's second year, not first.


    hahaha...I meant a rookie to seeing 20+ minutes a game.......
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  2. 02-21-10 12:42 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    I feel worse for Hickson...having a pretty good rook season....now he'll be lucky to get 15-20 minutes a game.
    It can only get worse when Leon Powe get's back.

    Cav's have too many PF's IMO and should have picked up a quality PG (I don't mean Telfair).

    DWest now get's burned man to man on defense. Cleveland's guards can't play defense worth a shit.
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  3. 02-21-10 12:45 PM #38
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    Mo get's abused on defense again. Nelson will totally out play him today. Mo Will with a stupid foul as well.
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  4. 02-21-10 12:46 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    It can only get worse when Leon Powe get's back.

    Cav's have too many PF's IMO and should have picked up a quality PG (I don't mean Telfair).

    DWest now get's burned man to man on defense. Cleveland's guards can't play defense worth a shit.
    Alright man you gotta relax a bit. Saying Delonte can't play defense worth a shit is a drastic overstatement. He went for a ball-fake by one of the purest shooters in the NBA, someone should have been helping on the drive.
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  5. 02-21-10 12:47 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by williams22 View Post
    Alright man you gotta relax a bit. Saying Delonte can't play defense worth a shit is a drastic overstatement. He went for a ball-fake by one of the purest shooters in the NBA, someone should have been helping on the drive.
    thats just what I was thinking when I saw that play
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  6. 02-21-10 12:48 PM #41
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    I think now that Shaq is gonna sit orlando needs to take advantage.
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  7. 02-21-10 12:49 PM #42
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    Alright this reffing is starting to piss me off.
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  8. 02-21-10 12:50 PM #43
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    someone needs to shove an apple in vangundys mouth...

    if cle loses this game, they are gonna drop the hammer on the hornets tue. one of those 105-75 jammies
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  9. 02-21-10 12:52 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexter View Post
    someone needs to shove an apple in vangundys mouth...
    Agreed.

    The reffing is definitely going to Orlando right now. Shaq was getting held on every entry pass and no call, then he gets called on the other end. Lebron gets knocked by Dwight on a drive and a no call because it would have been his third. Absurd.
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  10. 02-21-10 12:54 PM #45
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    this is why van dummy is an idiot. he gets shaq on the bench and there jacking up 3's again. pure chance to put this game out of reach. they have cavs in the penalty and arent going to howard. - this team can be unbeatable with a better coach
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    Quote Originally Posted by williams22 View Post
    Alright man you gotta relax a bit. Saying Delonte can't play defense worth a shit is a drastic overstatement. He went for a ball-fake by one of the purest shooters in the NBA, someone should have been helping on the drive.
    Cleveland's guards are the problem with the team. They are inconsistent as hell and are weak links on defense. Imagine if this team would have gotten Caron Butler instead. Mo is usually sitting in no man's land and look the Magic get a wide open look that they miss. Try watching him on defense.

    When is the last time Mo or Delonte delivered in a big game??? You are blinded by your homerism...
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  12. 02-21-10 12:57 PM #47
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    Look at that last play Williams. Mo is clueless on defense, leaves his man wide open again, he has to run out to his man and Parker has to help which leaves another wide open 3 shot. Cav's were lucky Orlando missed 2 wide open looks.
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  13. 02-21-10 12:59 PM #48
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    Lebron is a one man show right now. He's doing it all. No help.
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  14. 02-21-10 01:00 PM #49
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    Who cares.. neither one of these teams are as good as the Lake-Show.

    Lakers showed their talent superiority, by winning without Kobe.
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  15. 02-21-10 01:03 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Cleveland's guards are the problem with the team. They are inconsistent as hell and are weak links on defense. Imagine if this team would have gotten Caron Butler instead. Mo is usually sitting in no man's land and look the Magic get a wide open look that they miss. Try watching him on defense.

    When is the last time Mo or Delonte delivered in a big game??? You are blinded by your homerism...
    Delonte was the next best player after Lebron in last year's playoffs. Delonte is a hell of a defender. Mo is average. You criticize him for mistakes that aren't always his fault because of the defensive rotations.

    In other news, no one covers as much ground in the final seconds of a quarter as Lebron. It's frightening how fast he really is.
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  16. 02-21-10 01:04 PM #51
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    Orlando +1.5 second half...
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  17. 02-21-10 01:05 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Mo get's abused on defense again. Nelson will totally out play him today. Mo Will with a stupid foul as well.
    Hes not quick enough
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  18. 02-21-10 01:05 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Orlando +1.5 second half...
    agreed
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  19. 02-21-10 01:06 PM #54
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    I like the second half under.
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  20. 02-21-10 01:06 PM #55
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    Get back Big Z ffs.
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  21. 02-21-10 01:10 PM #56
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    2nd half thoughs on cle?
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  22. 02-21-10 01:14 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by genius View Post
    2nd half thoughs on cle?
    Yep, don't bet Cleveland in the 2nd half. Orlando actually missed a lot of wide open looks and really should be up double digits. Lebron and Shaq are the only guys who've shown up for Cleveland. The refs will make sure Shaq is riding the pine or Orlando will force him to make free throws and Lebron can't do it all himself. He wasted a lot of energy in that half.

    Orlando is the play in the 2nd half. I expect them to stretch the lead in the 3rd. I'd lean the Over as well but no play for me.
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  23. 02-21-10 01:17 PM #58
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    Cleveland -1.5
    97.5 OV

    Ride the victory train.
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  24. 02-21-10 01:20 PM #59
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    I took Orlando +1.5 in the 2nd and the Under for the half. 97.5. I also made a small parlay with the two together
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  25. 02-21-10 01:23 PM #60
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    Welcome to the team 'Twon
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  26. 02-21-10 01:24 PM #61
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    Janison on fire to start the 2H
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  27. 02-21-10 01:34 PM #62
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    Van Gundy Is The Worst Coach In The East
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  28. 02-21-10 01:37 PM #63
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    why is there 2 threads?
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  29. 02-21-10 01:37 PM #64
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    Jameer haters rev your engines again lol
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  30. 02-21-10 01:38 PM #65
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    Update: Delonte, Mo and Parker are currently 0-9.
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  31. 02-21-10 01:38 PM #66
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    Wow Howard is getting all the calls.
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  32. 02-21-10 01:40 PM #67
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    Touch foul on Shaq then Delonte takes it at Dwight and no call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genius View Post
    Van Gundy Is The Worst Coach In The East
    Not at all. Mike Brown is worse but I wouldn't call either as the worst. They both are top tiered but with faults.

    Mike Brown just messed up the lineup right there and allowed Orlando to get back in the 3rd quarter and caused Shaq to pick up his 4th foul. Why go small when it's clearly not working and put's too much pressure on Shaq

    West with another missed layup.
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  34. 02-21-10 01:42 PM #69
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    Horrible calls going against Cleveland here. Shot clock goes off before Lebron even touched the ball?

    Mo Will with a miss on an easy bunny...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Not at all. Mike Brown is worse but I wouldn't call either as the worst. They both are top tiered but with faults.

    Mike Brown just messed up the lineup right there and allowed Orlando to get back in the 3rd quarter and caused Shaq to pick up his 4th foul. Why go small when it's clearly not working and put's too much pressure on Shaq

    West with another missed layup.
    Dude, seriously? Hit got hit by two guys, one being Howard. I'll live with that miss.

    Varejao just had a hell of a defensive possession.
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