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    Jmd system
    record: 68-59-2
    Profit: +37.26
    Plays:
    Lac (-7) 4.12u
    nyk (+3.5) 1.22u
    hou (+3.5) 1.22u
    okc (+2.5) 1.00u
    Lac/den (201.5) 2.22u

    Road system
    record: 2-0
    Profit: +4.00
    Plays
    nyk (+3.5) 2.00u
    bos (+3.5) 2.00u
    hou (+4.5) 2.00u

    stiff
    record: 1-2
    Profit: -3.16
    Plays: Boston (+3.5) 3.60units


    *combined my over / under record to make it simpler. The road system are all A bets. GAMES START EARLY!!

    *Any plays that overlap in stiff's system i will play the bigger of the two or if they are both A i will play neither.

    merry Christmas!!!
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    Hi. Do you happen to have a w/l record for Jmd system by ~unit size ??

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    Merry Christmas!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete0 View Post
    Hi. Do you happen to have a w/l record for Jmd system by ~unit size ??
    size of the play via unit size does not always indicate best play. For instance clippers are my biggest play today but they are only biggest play cause top play has been on a bad run as of late. i do not have a complete break down. just overall record and unit count.

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    JMD System
    RECORD: 70-61-2
    PROFIT: +42.38

    NYK (-2) 4.12 units
    ORL (-3) 1.48 units
    ATL (-8) 1.24 units
    HOU (+5.5) 1.22 units
    GSW/uta (o203.5) 2.22 units
    SAS/TOR (O199.5) 2.22 UNITS
    MIA / CHA (U201.5) 2.22 UNITS


    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 2-2
    PROFIT: +.44 UNITS

    ATL (-8) 1.66 UNITS
    TOR (+13) 1.66 UNITS
    PHX (+2) 1.66 UNITS
    INDY: PENDING LINE 1.66 UNITS

    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD: 4-1
    PROFIT: +5.80 UNITS

    TOR (+13) 2.10 UNITS
    MIA (-9.5) 2.10 UNITS

    To much work trying to run the labby lines in the forum so I will just post like this for now on. All Lines are taking from 5dimes. I use reduced section for lower juice so end of the season if you have -110 profit will be a little off. When ever my labby line gets down to 3 #s and I have two plays I add an additional unit and divide by 4 to make it more balanced. On a side note I know exactly how to run a proper labby. It has not got out of hand all season and we are sitting well into the black. Largest bet so far has been 7 units. Lets keep all bets below 10 units and keep this money train rolling.

    If you have any questions about road system or stiff's system I am sure you can go to their thread. I just run a labby with their plays.

    Happy holidays.

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    JMD System
    RECORD: 72-65-3
    PROFIT: +38.23
    Plays:
    BOS (+8.5) 4.12 units
    OKC (-10) 1.72 units
    OKC/Bos (O189) 2.96 units

    Current Labby Lines:
    A) 2.06 x 3
    B) .86 x 7
    C) .73 x 6
    D) .61 x 1
    E) 1.48 x 7

    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 2-4-1
    PROFIT: -2.98

    Labby: 1.00 x 10

    NO PLAY

    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD:5-2
    PROFIT: +5.69

    Labby: 1.44 x 3
    NO PLAY

    In a while I'll submit personal parlay just cause I want a little more action.
    Happy Holidays

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    Personal parlay.

    First six min LAC ML & OKC ML (1.00 units to win 1.51 units)

    Just to make it a little more exciting. I couldn't find a really good parlay with a nice payout with out getting out of the conservative range. Good Luck

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    JMD System
    RECORD: 72-68-3
    PROFIT: +28.81
    Plays:
    NYK (-3) 5.32units
    Mia (-6) 1.98 units
    LAC (-3) 1.46 units
    GSW (-6) 1.22 units
    LAC/Uta (o192.5) 3.38 units
    BRK/CHA (U195) 3.38 UNITS

    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 2-4-1
    PROFIT: -2.98

    Labby: 1.17 X 12
    Plays:
    MIA (-6) 2.34 UNITS
    HOU (+8) 2.34 UNITS
    SAC (+3) 2.34 UNITS
    IND (-8) 2.34 UNITS
    ORL (-1.5) 2.34 UNITS
    DEN (-3) 2.34 UNITS

    *I REMOVED ANY GAMES THAT OVERLAPPED ON A-WAGERS; IF AN A&D WAGER OVERLAPPED I PLAYED THE BIGGER OF THE TWO. FOR EXAMPLE TODAY DET (A) OVERLAPS WITH MIA (D)

    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD:5-2
    PROFIT: +5.69

    Labby: 1.33 X 4
    Plays:
    (A) PHX (+8) 2.66 UNITS
    (B) TOR (+3) 2.66 UNITS

    Note*If you are wondering how my labby lines changed; its because for the new A-wagers starting today for stifflier's system and the road system I added units to the labby lines to make up for the new wagers starting. For example, road system has one new A bet today, so since there were only three (3) numbers on the line I added 1 unit to the line as well as an additional number to make it a traditional labby approach.

    Action packed day with the systems overlapping, but instead of making it confusing with the math later on I placed wagers on each game listed above. I noticed when I was only doing my system I missed out on a lot of profit because I was avoiding the games that overlapped. If I would of just placed wagers on each game even though they overlapped I would have been up well over 100 units at this point instead of only 30-40 units. Lesson learned, so now just looking forward to the future.

    *I will be back testing the john morrison nba system this weekend with detailed excel file, given no wifi problems. I will be sure to post graphs and numbers for tradtional (3 point bought), 1-3-5 (-110), and 7/5 on Monday. Hopefully can get it all done on one excel file.

    Have a great weekend!

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    JMD System
    RECORD: 75-71-3
    PROFIT: +27.51
    Plays:
    MIa (-4) 6.50 units
    ATL (-3.5) 2.24 units
    okc (-4.5) 1.70 units
    por (-3) 1.00 units
    CHA/NOH (u190) 3.38 units
    DEN/MEM (o195) 3.38 units

    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 5-7-1
    PROFIT: -3.50
    Labby: 1.62 x 9
    Plays:
    IND: (+3.5) 6.48 units

    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD:7-2
    PROFIT: +11.01
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:
    No plays


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    JMD System
    RECORD: 78-74-3
    PROFIT: +18.26
    Plays:

    My Labby lines are starting to get a little heavy and do not want to risk any ones bankroll overall. I am sure the lines will recover, but at what risk I do not know. We are above 50% on the season, but we started off hot and are now cooling off. Its better to call it quits while I am still up with the system than chase for heavy risk. Surrending this system until I have more than my current 3 years of data. In the past during my research there were a couple of bets that were 15 units and I do not see that being worth the risk this season with the other two systems doing so well this year. Overall there are about 49 units in play on my labby lines over 26 numbers. A winning streak of 13 wins could easily make us around +70 units, but that streak does not seem like its going to happen any time soon. Learned my lesson on when to Quit from following "Atari" in the past and his marketing scheme. I'll just post the JM road system and Stiff's in here with my labby for now on.

    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 5-8-1
    PROFIT: -10.43
    Labby: 2.15 x 10
    Plays:


    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD:7-2
    PROFIT: +11.01
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:


    Will post the plays tomorrow morning or late tonight.

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    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 5-8-1
    PROFIT: -10.43
    Labby: 2.15 x 10
    Plays:
    Hou (-5) 4.64 u to win 4.30 u

    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD:7-2
    PROFIT: +11.01
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:


    1. Atlanta Hawks (+5) -102 vs Houston Rockets
      2.04 u to win 2.00u
    2. Brooklyn Nets (+9) -108 vs San Antonio Spurs
      2.16 u to win 2.00 u

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    thanks apreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    JMD System
    Learned my lesson on when to Quit from following "Atari" in the past and his marketing scheme. I'll just post the JM road system and Stiff's in here with my labby for now on.
    What do you mean his marketing scheme? can you elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 5-8-1
    PROFIT: -10.43
    Labby: 2.15 x 10
    Plays:
    Hou (-5) 4.64 u to win 4.30 u

    JM ROAD SYSTEM
    RECORD:7-2
    PROFIT: +11.01
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:


    1. Atlanta Hawks (+5) -102 vs Houston Rockets
      2.04 u to win 2.00u
    2. Brooklyn Nets (+9) -108 vs San Antonio Spurs
      2.16 u to win 2.00 u
    did these win ?

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    Stiff
    no plays

    road system.
    Labby: 1.37 x 6
    Por 2.74u
    sac 2.74u
    atl 2.74u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamprofit101 View Post
    What do you mean his marketing scheme? can you elaborate?
    He had a really bad baseball season which he claims to profit on. He say his unit size is 1% and constantly adjust your unit size as the season goes on. During the baseball season he surpassed the 100 unit mark by a few units in the red like -105u or some thing which means people would have busted their bankroll following him. At the end of the season he won a few games for around 15 units each clearing his labby lines and said he was in the black. I wish I kept all his emails, but I no longer affiliate with him. His one year of experience on a heater before going tout led to a few people following his picks when he made his website.

    If you had a 200 unit bankroll you could of profited if you kept a stagnant unit size the entire time. His record at the end of the season was some where around 49-50%. If you did an extensive search through SBR I am sure you will find my post with full record, juice, and labby lines laid out where he went over 100 units into the red. Than towards end of the season claimed he was in the black. Pissed a lot of people off that way. Nothing more than a 50% capper and using the labby strategy.

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    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 6-8-1
    PROFIT: -6.13
    Labby: 2.15 x 8
    Plays:


    1. Portland Trailblazers +4 (-105) vs Toronto Raptors
      [4.51 to win 4.30u]
    2. Dallas Mavericks +10½ (-105) vs Miami Heat
      [4.51 to win 4.30u]
    3. Milwaukee Bucks* +5½ (-105) vs San Antonio Spurs
      [4.51 to win 4.30u]



    JM ROAD SYSTEM

    RECORD:
    10-4
    PROFIT:
    +15.03u
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:

    BRK (+9.5) 2u

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    1. 1/2/2013 7:05 PM NBA Basketball 701 Sacramento Kings* +3½ -110 vs Cleveland Cavaliers
    2. 1/2/2013 7:05 PM NBA Basketball 704 Indiana Pacers* -750 vs Washington Wizards
    3. 1/2/2013 7:05 PM NBA Basketball 705 Portland Trailblazers* +4 -110 vs Toronto Raptors
    4. 1/2/2013 7:35 PM NBA Basketball 709 Dallas Mavericks* +10½ -110 vs Miami Heat
    5. 1/2/2013 8:05 PM NBA Basketball 716 Oklahoma City Thunder* -550 vs Brooklyn Nets
    6. 1/2/2013 8:05 PM NBA Basketball 718 Houston Rockets* -575 vs New Orleans Hornets
    7. 1/2/2013 9:05 PM NBA Basketball 719 Philadelphia 76ers/Phoenix Suns* Over 195 -110
    8. 1/2/2013 9:05 PM NBA Basketball 721 Minnesota Timberwolves/Utah Jazz* Under 196 -110
    9. 1/2/2013 10:35 PM NBA Basketball 723 Los Angeles Clippers* -2 -110 vs Golden State Warriors

    Throwing a $5 parlay out there for fun see what you all think. $5 to win $375.

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    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 7-10-1
    PROFIT: -10.85
    Labby: 2.74 x 8
    Plays:


    San Antonio Spurs -1 (-101) vs New York Knicks
    [5.53u to win 5.48u]

    JM ROAD SYSTEM

    RECORD:
    11-4
    PROFIT:
    +17.03u
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:

    no plays

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    this is mud

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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz View Post
    this is mud
    ???

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    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 7-11-1
    PROFIT: -16.38
    Labby: 3.05 x 9
    Plays:


    1. Sacramento Kings +7 (-105) vs Toronto Raptors
      6.41u To Win 6.10u
    2. Cleveland Cavaliers +1½ (-109) vs Charlotte Bobcats
      6.65u To Win 6.10u
    3. Chicago Bulls +7 (-103) vs Miami Heat
      6.28u To Win 6.10u
    4. Milwaukee Bucks -1 (-107) vs Houston Rockets
      6.53u To Win 6.10u


    JM ROAD SYSTEM

    RECORD:
    11-4
    PROFIT:
    +17.03u
    Labby: 1.00 x 4
    Plays:

    no plays

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    Stiif's system
    record: 10-12-1
    Profit: -4.61
    Labby: 1.96 x 8

    mil (+4.5) 3.92u
    sas (-13.5) 3.92u
    atl(-5) 3.92u
    noh (+5.5) 3.92u

    Road system
    no plays

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    Stiff
    record: 12-14-1
    Profit: -5.12
    Labby: 2.70 x 6

    Miami (-13.5) 5.40units

    Jm
    record: 11-4
    Profit:+17.03
    Labby: 1.0 x 4

    Mem (-4.5). 2.0 u

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    Stiff
    record: 13-14-1
    Profit: +.28
    Labby: 1.80 x 6

    ORL 3.60 units each
    NYK
    UTA

    Jm
    record: 12-4
    Profit:+19.03
    Labby: 1.0 x 4

    DAL 2.0u
    ORL 2.0u

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    STIFF SYSTEM
    RECORD: 15-15-1
    PROFIT: +3.63
    Labby:
    2.49 x 3
    Plays:

    Milwaukee Bucks* -6½ (-102) vs Phoenix Suns
    5.08u To Win 4.98u


    JM ROAD SYSTEM

    RECORD:
    13-5
    PROFIT:
    +18.85
    Labby: 1.04 x 4
    Plays:


    1. Miami Heat* -2 (-103) vs Indiana Pacers
      Risking 2.14u To Win 2.08u
    2. Phoenix Suns* +6½ (-108) vs Milwaukee Bucks
      Risking 2.25u To Win 2.08u

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    Stiff
    16-15-1
    Profit:+8.61
    Labby: 1.13 x 4
    Bos (2.26units)
    Tor (2.26units)

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    Jm road system
    min 2.14u
    pho 2.14u
    hou 2.14u
    Utah 2.14u

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    Disciple. I like what you are doing and have been following JM and wallco for a couple years now. Keep up the work. Something I thought that might be worth looking into is betting ATS halfs. I see that some of Stiflers plays where the teams go to a C and even D bet, those same teams won ATS 1st or 2nd half on the very first A bet. A lot of these teams that lose the game ATS win the 1st or second half ATS. Might be some kind of Half chase system to come up with on all these systems you are playing as well.
    EX: Milwaukee was a Stifler A bet on the 2nd of January. They lost the game ATS +6 but won the 2nd half ATS at -2.5. They also won the 1st half ATS PK on the 4th but lost the game ATS. Milwaukee finally won the Stifler D bet on the 8th which are scary to play but if there were some kind of half system in play Milwaukee could have been over on the A bet.
    EX: Wallco Philadelphia B lost on the 9th but the 1st Half won. Now Wallco goes to a C bet
    EX: Wallco Lakers A bet on the 8th lost ATS but won the 1st Half ATS. Could avoid going to a B bet.
    I understand there is a posibility of more bets having to be made on halfs but maybe a half system backtested never gets further than a B bet.
    Something to look into if you have time. Keep posting the JM labby I think you are onto something. Thanks

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    halfs are a reasonable bet to make however that makes it a 8 game chase. If you find solaman's thread he has halves as a system for a 6 game chase. When betting to win 1 unit in a six game chase it takes a huge hit to your bankroll when ever you lose. I don't think the system has ever had a losing year, but takes some balls to make that 6th bet. A lot of people in that thread are labbying it currently.

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    1. Charlotte Bobcats* +8 -105 vs Toronto Raptors
    2. Houston Rockets* +3 -105 vs Boston Celtics
    3. Minnesota Timberwolves* +2½ -105 vs New Orleans Hornets
    4. Cleveland Cavaliers* +11½ -101 vs Denver Nuggets
    5. Oklahoma City Thunder* -6 -107 vs Los Angeles Lakers

    Hou and MIN are both B bets today, the other three are (A) bets. I am betting to win 3.8 units on each line. Based on my post in the JM thread I am starting to use 10% on my line of a bankroll and keep it going until it clears. For more info on this check out the JM thread and you will see why. Biggest bet this season with 2% starting on your labby line only results in little over a 2 unit wager. So start with 10 units on your line will onl y result in 10 units at risk this current season. I have to do more back testing on it, but from my personal opinion I think its pretty safe. Probably better to use stagnant 10 units 2.5 - 2.5 - 2.5 - 2.5 over the season instead of 10%. I have smaller bankroll and unit size, so willing to take the risk. Little harder to follow multiple systems that way though.

    Through this season a 2 unit labby line resulted in 21% profit or 21 units. So roughly 10% each month of the season, which is why I want to try 10 units a line to make 5x the profit and make it the most profitable labby / jm system ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    1. Charlotte Bobcats* +8 -105 vs Toronto Raptors
    2. Houston Rockets* +3 -105 vs Boston Celtics
    3. Minnesota Timberwolves* +2½ -105 vs New Orleans Hornets
    4. Cleveland Cavaliers* +11½ -101 vs Denver Nuggets
    5. Oklahoma City Thunder* -6 -107 vs Los Angeles Lakers

    Hou and MIN are both B bets today, the other three are (A) bets. I am betting to win 3.8 units on each line. Based on my post in the JM thread I am starting to use 10% on my line of a bankroll and keep it going until it clears. For more info on this check out the JM thread and you will see why. Biggest bet this season with 2% starting on your labby line only results in little over a 2 unit wager. So start with 10 units on your line will onl y result in 10 units at risk this current season. I have to do more back testing on it, but from my personal opinion I think its pretty safe. Probably better to use stagnant 10 units 2.5 - 2.5 - 2.5 - 2.5 over the season instead of 10%. I have smaller bankroll and unit size, so willing to take the risk. Little harder to follow multiple systems that way though.

    Through this season a 2 unit labby line resulted in 21% profit or 21 units. So roughly 10% each month of the season, which is why I want to try 10 units a line to make 5x the profit and make it the most profitable labby / jm system ever!

    Isn't Houston a B and Charlotte an A? Not that it matters that much. Also, Boston should be a B for Stifler, correct?

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    JMD, As of last night, I went to labby, being that I got killed the last few days on some of the systems that I follow. I have some questions, if you don't mind answering.
    First is do you line up all your bets on the lines and keep them there. Example: you have say 3 lines going, one each for wallcos, stiflers, and JM. Say stiflers keeps losing but JM and wallcos wins. Do you put bets from JM on the stifler line to bring it down or is stiflers line bets from his system ONLY.
    I had 9 lines going before last nights games to recover my losses from the week (that many to ease the recovery/size of wager). I won all my games last night at 2x my standard unit. I had listed them one bet per line, then I switched them out and "completed" a couple lines while leaving the rest untouched. My plan is to put winners/losers wherever to keep the lines lower (all bets being equal, of course).
    Was curious on how you do it. This seems like a better plan than wagering those large C and D bets.
    Thoughts? Mind you that I'm a simple mailman in Ohio, so don't go Harvard educated on me!!!
    Also, what are your thoughts on fading Stiflers S1 bets? Since I've tailed him, his S1 A Bets are 11W/18L and the B Bets are 7W/11L, while his S4 A Bets are doing just fine at 20W/6L. This is from November 19th.

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