Damn i got utah a +5....In the future i'm going to just pay for the half point!!!
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11-14-12 09:08 PM #281
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11-14-12 09:38 PM #282
The answer is there shouldn't any pushers ... The system play was Utah Jazz +5.5 ... My book had +5 but I bought the extra half point.
Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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11-14-12 09:46 PM #283
I am not worried about the A bet pushing, but say system play was +5 and it was a C wager, do you continue over the next two games?
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11-14-12 09:59 PM #284
Al Horford out tonight. GSW play looking better.
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11-14-12 09:59 PM #285
I wouldn't consider a push a loss therefore I wouldn't chase that bet and i would extend that series an extra game if needed
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11-14-12 10:02 PM #286
if an A bet pushes, you play the B bet with A bet units. IE you play B bet for 1 unit.
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11-14-12 10:02 PM #287
The play was Utah. The spread has nothing to do with it.
a push just means the game never happened....for you.
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11-14-12 10:12 PM #288
You gotta be kidding, right? If the play was Utah and had nothing to do with the spread that is considered a Moneyline bet and that would be an 'A' Bet loss. If you paid any attention you would have read from Sir Stifler that the plays have everything to do with the spread... Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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11-14-12 10:31 PM #289
What are you talking about - you say that if the line was +9 or -3 it's not a play? The line is meaningless as far as if you play a game or not. It has everything to do with PICKING the games but playing there is nothing. I think there is a semantics disagreement here.
The system play was Utah and when ever line it happened to be.The system play was Utah Jazz +5.5
Maybe it;s your avatar - Carrot Top just ticks me off to no end!!
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11-14-12 10:52 PM #290
grinder you are right, carrot top is confused. he will figure it out
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11-14-12 11:46 PM #291
Stifler..... How old are you and what do you do for a living? If you dont mind me asking.
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11-14-12 11:50 PM #292
The line does matter but only the closing line as that is what was backtested.
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11-15-12 12:38 AM #293
The line is somewhat important. Obviously a +7.5 is better than getting a +3.5. However this is an ATS system so you are right the actual spread doesnt matter as long as you played Utah. some pushed, some won, and possibly, not sure if it ever went there but some could have lost if they bought +4.5.
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11-15-12 12:42 AM #294
Originally Posted by thelimit0310
Exactly, well said
Last edited by kosti; 11-15-12 at 12:52 AM.
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11-15-12 01:06 AM #295
the closing line was +5 on Utah (a push), so I believe the Boston home fade is still active.
Last edited by Riceboi; 11-15-12 at 01:43 AM.
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11-15-12 02:22 AM #296
That's def not what I'm saying ... I'm saying that this system revolves around spread with the exception of S4. Few posts back you say the system has nothing to with spread...????? Originally Posted by Grinder12000
And obviously you have to go with whatever the system spits out whether it's +9 or -3
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11-15-12 03:26 AM #297
Originally Posted by Stifler
records:
S1: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
S2: W 2 | L 0 (+2,00 units)
S3: W 1 | L 0 (+1,00 units)
S4: W 3 | L 0 (+3,00 units)
pending:
- S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 17.11.2012Points Awarded:
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11-15-12 03:52 AM #298
Who do we take for tomorrow? NYK or SAS? Both are S1: With winning ATS 3 in a row. Knicks would put you in a 3 of 4 game chase, one more game left after this. And Spurs just started their W streak and we'll be tuning in for a 4 game chase.
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11-15-12 04:01 AM #299
If we push on a C bet we will have another C bet on the next game fitting to the system. Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple
thats the point...closing line on covers matters, cause i did the backtesting there. I think Grinder and swankk talking past each other. Grinder just point out that i would have played any spread on Utah, whether its -10,5 or +5,5 cause they fit for the system play.The line does matter but only the closing line as that is what was backtested.
For those that pushes on the A bet: As covers closing line shows +5 it would have been a push for the system, when i recapped it later. Therefore we would have another A Bet on S2 Bos fade (means fade them on their next 4 home games again). Option 2 is to skip it as it´s just an A bet, u didnt lose any money here, u just didnt add 1 more unit to ur bankroll. If i would have pushed on the +5 play i would start a new series on Bos fade in their upcoming 4 home games. Still for me this series is over, its just an option for the guys who pushed on the A bet.
27Stifler..... How old are you and what do you do for a living? If you dont mind me asking.
Just built up a new company with a few guys. We are selling care products (especially for diabetic guys) + products for hairdresser. [could tell alot more about that, especially a nice marketing idea we will start later similar to network marketing (but no scam here, worked out something where everybody has the same chance)].
Just a short info on that, we are here for gambling issues.
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11-15-12 04:14 AM #300
Stifler you sound like a very high achiever............ Destined to go far in life in sure.
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11-15-12 04:17 AM #301
for today its just S1 SA Spurs, im still waiting to see where the line is going. NYK had their A bet on 09.11.2012 and covered. The new streak started also, means they need to cover today to qualify for the next S1 play. Originally Posted by NicoleAniston
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11-15-12 06:12 AM #302
swankk - I sort of thought we were both on the same side and saying the same thing but differently LOL
OOPS - I did;t know no nominating a post created a new thread - my bad!! Meant to give points!
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11-15-12 06:13 AM #303
In theory it's still a profitable opportunity, so you should definitely start a new chase.For those that pushes on the A bet: As covers closing line shows +5 it would have been a push for the system, when i recapped it later. Therefore we would have another A Bet on S2 Bos fade (means fade them on their next 4 home games again).
I'm gonna do it, although I won that A bet.
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11-15-12 06:24 AM #304
Today the play is Spurs !?!?
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11-15-12 06:38 AM #305
Yes. I got -5 Spurs
BTW - hate this play - one good bet is to play against a team coming off a 3+ game road trip - home cooking is not a good thing - they are relaxed and won't be sharp tonight.
Still playing the Spurs! and looking forward the "B" game Saturday! LOLLast edited by Grinder12000; 11-15-12 at 07:15 AM.
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11-15-12 07:36 AM #306
Haha thought the same thing. Originally Posted by Grinder12000
I hate this bet too ;D
Especially with the Knicks playing good defense at the moment.
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11-15-12 09:38 AM #307
@Stifler; 11/15/12 S1 fade San Ant.@ NY Knicks is this the play for today? Thanks
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11-15-12 09:53 AM #308
Not trying to answer for Stif but before a mistake is made.@Stifler; 11/15/12 S1 fade San Ant.@ NY Knicks is this the play for today? Thanks
Asset - CLOSE but no. Two reasons
1. SA has won 3 in a row so the play is on SA
2. NYK has won 5 in a row - WWWWW however WWW Was taken care of with the 4th W - THAT 4th W started a new streak so for the Knicks we are now at WW as you toss out the first streak of WWW.
Does that make any sense?
SO - if NYK does win then NYK is a PLAY their next game along with SA also being a "B" game play
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11-15-12 09:55 AM #309
15.11.2012
S1
(A Bet) SA: SA Spurs -5 1,10uPoints Awarded:
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11-15-12 09:59 AM #310
@Stifler: Thank-you as always
@Grinder: Thank-you for taking the time to explain it to me in detail. I'm just really new to this; just trying to earn some extra cash, thank-you again
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11-15-12 10:20 AM #311
Asset - wait until baseball - I joined in about midway and was totally 100% lost. Especially when Stif uses Euro-style lines and every game had totally different moneylines. One game was -156 and the next +142. I needed an excel spreadsheet with formulas for that one.
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11-15-12 10:31 AM #312
OMG!! you just gave me a headache and I just woke up Originally Posted by Grinder12000
Thank-you again Grinder.
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11-15-12 11:28 AM #313
I love this. Cause I HATE the nba but love to gamble so makes my life much easier. Thanks Stifler
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11-15-12 11:38 AM #314
Hey Stifler, if people that pushed are still fading boston at home their next 4 home games, well they play raptors next. And we are fading raptors, do we just play both bets for their respective amounts and keep chasing the loser of the two i'm assuming?
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11-15-12 12:09 PM #315
Stifler just a friendly suggestion but you should probably record Utah as a push even if the series won't continue. If you were backtesting this season that's what you would have seen and that's what you would have recorded. If you record it as a win your record will be inaccurate in comparison to your backtested records.
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