1. 01-22-13 12:29 AM #2906
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelimit0310 View Post
    Underperforming based on the backtests, but a few systems are underperforming this year.
    I think the amount of systems players and the amount of money we place on our teams are a part of the reason the systems underperform.The last lost serie was decided by 1 point on both C and D games.
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  2. 01-22-13 12:34 AM #2907
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino7 View Post
    I think the amount of systems players and the amount of money we place on our teams are a part of the reason the systems underperform.The last lost serie was decided by 1 point on both C and D games.

    definitely agree.
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  3. 01-22-13 12:56 AM #2908
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino7 View Post
    I think the amount of systems players and the amount of money we place on our teams are a part of the reason the systems underperform.The last lost serie was decided by 1 point on both C and D games.
    I really doubt that. it take more $ than u think to influence lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huego View Post
    I really doubt that. it take more $ than u think to influence lines.
    not out of the question. this thread has like almost 250k views, not sure how it counts the views, but that's a lot
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  5. 01-22-13 03:12 AM #2910
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    21.01.2013

    S3

    (B Bet) Char: Charlotte +2 1,10u | Charlotte +7 2,31u
    (A Bet) Ind fade: Memphis -6 1,10u

    S4

    (A Bet) Chic fade: Lakers +2 1,10u
    (A Bet) Mem fade: Indiana +6 1,10u

    records:
    S1: W 40 | L 2 (+ 3,10 units)
    S2: W 20 | L 0 (+20,00 units)
    S3: W 11 | L 0 (+11,00 units)
    S4: W 33 | L 1 (+16,55 units)

    pending:
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S1 Den fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    - S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    - S4 Dal fade, B Bet on 25.01.2013
    - S3 Ind fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    - S4 Chic fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013


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  6. 01-22-13 05:27 AM #2911
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    records:
    S1: W 40 | L 2 (+ 3,10 units)
    S2: W 20 | L 0 (+20,00 units)
    S3: W 11 | L 0 (+11,00 units)
    S4: W 33 | L 1 (+16,55 units)

    pending:
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S1 Den fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    - S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    - S4 Dal fade, B Bet on 25.01.2013
    - S3 Ind fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    - S4 Chic fade, B Bet on 23.01.2013
    i dont understand, the S3 has 2 red which means S3 has 2 lost but in your records it is still W:11 L:0?

    what am i missing? im new btw..
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  7. 01-22-13 05:30 AM #2912
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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    i dont understand, the S3 has 2 red which means S3 has 2 lost but in your records it is still W:11 L:0?

    what am i missing? im new btw..
    It's a 4 games chase means you raise your bet size up to 4 times to recover + profit.A serie isnt lost as long as 1 out of 4 bet is won.
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  8. 01-22-13 05:36 AM #2913
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino7 View Post
    It's a 4 games chase means you raise your bet size up to 4 times to recover + profit.A serie isnt lost as long as 1 out of 4 bet is won.
    so what if out of that 4 games, you only won the 1st game the next 3 is a lose so there will be no profit?
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  9. 01-22-13 05:40 AM #2914
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    when you win the first game the chase is done. read post #1586. why dont you people ever listen to stifler
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  10. 01-22-13 06:05 AM #2915
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    Relax - everybody is new at some point.
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  11. 01-22-13 06:05 AM #2916
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    ic now.. one last question though, the last S2 series was on page 82 which is a WIN and stifler is B betting on 01-22-13, where did the A bet go? why did he jump on B bet?
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  12. 01-22-13 06:09 AM #2917
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    Pretty sure your number is wrong.
    Well - Stifler has 50.65 ?? So I'm 4 over Stifler.

    A few weeks ago I went through every post by Stifler and compiled. I personally have less with one more "D" loss then most people but I've won chases sooner then a few also.

    Everybody has different numbers.
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    -S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 22.01.2013

    does this mean i should bet on cle and orl on that date? im confused on your meaning of fade.. helps are appreciated tyvm!
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  14. 01-22-13 06:33 AM #2919
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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    -S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 22.01.2013

    does this mean i should bet on cle and orl on that date? im confused on your meaning of fade.. helps are appreciated tyvm!
    You got that right sir!
    Cle fade, meaning bos is the play
    and orl for tom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    -S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 22.01.2013

    does this mean i should bet on cle and orl on that date? im confused on your meaning of fade.. helps are appreciated tyvm!
    fade means you bet on the opposite team. so since it's Cle Fade, bet on Boston.
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    A personal whine.

    Why is it the Lakers are not on any "Play" list and we keep playing this hell hole of a team! MAN - they are like fingernails on a chalkboard. It's like every system FADE play ends up playing the Lakers. AAAAHHHHHH!!!

    I'm going to go back and look at every team we have played and look at their record.
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  17. 01-22-13 07:12 AM #2922
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    Boston and Orlando???!!! This guys nuts. Hands down Cavs cover and Detroit will cover as well...
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  18. 01-22-13 07:14 AM #2923
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdb91011 View Post
    Boston and Orlando???!!! This guys nuts. Hands down Cavs cover and Detroit will cover as well...
    It's not about winning every games, it's about being statistically in the black over the long run.Just play every games like they come and you will make money.$$$
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  19. 01-22-13 07:37 AM #2924
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    Why is it the Lakers are not on any "Play" list and we keep playing this hell hole of a team!
    I've actually played Lakers in all four systems for about two months now and I'm 7-0 with them alone, only one chase has gone to C bet. They sure are a train wreck this season. Loving it!
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  20. 01-22-13 07:38 AM #2925
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdb91011 View Post
    Boston and Orlando???!!! This guys nuts. Hands down Cavs cover and Detroit will cover as well...
    Read what's a 4-game chase first and the rules of this system before reacting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdb91011 View Post
    Boston and Orlando???!!! This guys nuts. Hands down Cavs cover and Detroit will cover as well...
    How much do you charge for your picks bro? You must be sharp.
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    22.01.2013

    S2

    (B Bet) Orl: Orlando +2 1,10u | Orlando +5,5 2,31u
    (B Bet) Cle fade: Atlanta -4 1,10u | Boston -4 2,31u



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  23. 01-22-13 08:52 AM #2928
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdb91011 View Post
    Boston and Orlando???!!! This guys nuts. Hands down Cavs cover and Detroit will cover as well...
    You are obviously a newb when it comes to betting.....You have no clue what a chase system is.....Now run along and go make your bets....

    Oh, and please start a thread with all your winning picks since you claim you have winners....The rest of the forum would like to see your picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    -S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 22.01.2013
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 22.01.2013

    does this mean i should bet on cle and orl on that date? im confused on your meaning of fade.. helps are appreciated tyvm!

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  25. 01-22-13 09:07 AM #2930
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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    so what if out of that 4 games, you only won the 1st game the next 3 is a lose so there will be no profit?
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  26. 01-22-13 09:13 AM #2931
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post

    Everybody has different numbers.
    That may be true but from an official standpoint the system is underperforming compared to the backtests, which was the original point being made by Nino and another here. I'm guessing you were lucky enough to dodge the Covers official Orlando loss to be up that amount.
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  27. 01-22-13 10:07 AM #2932
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    Hey. Just joined. Hope I won't get flamed for asking a question that (probably) has been asked million times before (and yes, I read post on page 46 and sort of understand the concept).

    Question, since I just joined, could I simply follow todays picks with the same unit amount and continue every pick after that, or do I have to wait for a new chase to start?

    Thanks.
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  28. 01-22-13 10:11 AM #2933
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    Quote Originally Posted by cind3r View Post
    Hey. Just joined. Hope I won't get flamed for asking a question that (probably) has been asked million times before (and yes, I read post on page 46 and sort of understand the concept).

    Question, since I just joined, could I simply follow todays picks with the same unit amount and continue every pick after that, or do I have to wait for a new chase to start?

    Thanks.
    I would start now @1,1 to win 1 on all the plays but its up to you:you can pretend you started the chases on G1s and simply bet the same amount as we do.The risk/reward ratio is the same.
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  29. 01-22-13 10:14 AM #2934
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    I'm just keeping track of what Stifled posted for the system. He has 50+. I had it at 54. I'll go over every pick again
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  31. 01-22-13 10:29 AM #2936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino7 View Post
    I would start now @1,1 to win 1 on all the plays but its up to you:you can pretend you started the chases on G1s and simply bet the same amount as we do.The risk/reward ratio is the same.
    Alright, thanks! Will probably start todays B Bets as A Bets instead then, and continue onward.


    Also, one more question for Stifler, or somebody else if they know the answer. From what I understand, Stifler doesn't bet real money himself on this system. Why not? Since he has proven year after year that this is a winning concept, I don't see why not.. just being curious, don't really need an answer.
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  32. 01-22-13 10:39 AM #2937
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    I'm just keeping track of what Stifled posted for the system. He has 50+. I had it at 54. I'll go over every pick again
    Grinder, Do you have this all in a spreadsheet? Can you easily look up how many points we lose by on average on our losses?

    Damn i don't think i made sense lol

    I remember you spoke about buying a half point, I wanted to see if it's worth buying a full point or 1.5 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cind3r View Post
    Alright, thanks! Will probably start todays B Bets as A Bets instead then, and continue onward.


    Also, one more question for Stifler, or somebody else if they know the answer. From what I understand, Stifler doesn't bet real money himself on this system. Why not? Since he has proven year after year that this is a winning concept, I don't see why not.. just being curious, don't really need an answer.
    Stifler plays real money on the system, he doesn't play much else though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thes0vereign View Post
    Stifler plays real money on the system, he doesn't play much else though.
    Oh okay, I guess I misread previously. Thanks for clearing that up!
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    Iv been trying to find which dates they three losses or they three wins are for Orl, Cle. Then I divided them into home and away. When I looked at the schedule Orlando lost from dec 21 th until jan 9th. If they should have Lost then have you just started a new series. But you say Orlando is going to Win? Havent the already won against indian and clippers or didn't the cover?

    Clev lost recently three consecutive losses but you didn't start your chase their becuase of the atlanta game is the A bet? I just dont get how I should count wich three dates do you count from on both of this teams. The three games Lost or won does it only count if it's three away games or is it like wallco's system any?

    This is not my native tounge

    Hope it's understandable
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